Forever_blueco Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 https://www.ftadviser.com/regulation/2017/03/16/hmrc-moving-goal-posts-on-rangers-fc-case/ the reports I am reading don't seem to confident in hmrc' case to be honest @The DA 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DA Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 5 minutes ago, Forever_blueco said: For what it's worth I had a quick look and first report I read contained this "It is, as always, very difficult to make an assessment of the mood of the court, but the impression given is that the court was unwilling to entertain HMRC’s argument that the employee had immediate access to the EBT assets and was less than wholly convinced that their arguments on diverted earnings were correct." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobles Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 For what it's worth I had a quick look and first report I read contained this "It is, as always, very difficult to make an assessment of the mood of the court, but the impression given is that the court was unwilling to entertain HMRC’s argument that the employee had immediate access to the EBT assets and was less than wholly convinced that their arguments on diverted earnings were correct." So somebody thought they could read the courts mood and posited their hypothesis?Or they just spoke shit? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever_blueco Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 6 minutes ago, scoobles said: So somebody thought they could read the courts mood and posited their hypothesis? Or they just spoke shit? Seems to be the done thing on here 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 (edited) I've no idea how this might go. The fact that the ruling has at stages gone each way, suggests that ultimately, it could go in either. In terms of justice, this was obviously a case of giving players inflated wages by enabling them to duck tax obligations. I don't think anyone seriously argues otherwise - certainly not Billy Dodds, certainly not the internal Ibrox e-mails relating to Papac that were unearthed by Mark Daly and certainly not even Kincardine. In terms of the law though, who knows? It's capable of being quite the ass. Edited March 16, 2017 by Monkey Tennis 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DA Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 11 minutes ago, Forever_blueco said: https://www.ftadviser.com/regulation/2017/03/16/hmrc-moving-goal-posts-on-rangers-fc-case/ the reports I am reading don't seem to confident in hmrc' case to be honest @The DA Tax lawyer, specialising in helping high earners avoid paying tax, thinks HMRC are being nasty to his current and future clients. Allan Maxwell, further down that article, suggests a different viewpoint. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Regardless of whether Rangers were involved or not, it would be an absolute fucking disgrace if the court doesn't find in HMRC's favour. I hope that every single person that was involved in such a scheme gets taken to the cleaners for what they owe. The ordinary plebs who pay up without question are the folk that have to fund that shit, we should never forget that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 1 minute ago, Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo said: Regardless of whether Rangers were involved or not, it would be an absolute fucking disgrace if the court doesn't find in HMRC's favour. I hope that every single person that was involved in such a scheme gets taken to the cleaners for what they owe. The ordinary plebs who pay up without question are the folk that have to fund that shit, we should never forget that. Spot on. Of course the fact that it's Rangers makes many of us care more, but the reality is that such schemes are utterly disgusting morally, regardless of who attempts to operate them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobles Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 3 hours ago, Forever_blueco said: Seems to be the done thing on here Fair point 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlipperyP Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 9 hours ago, Forever_blueco said: Arguing the same shite day after day seems the dictionary definition of fun . Following tweets and whipping yourself into a frenzy over courts cases regarding things such as disputed bets sounds like Such glorious fun . Can see where I have been going wrong all my life . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Ah...it's like the good old days on here.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever_blueco Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 24 minutes ago, williemillersmoustache said: Ah...it's like the good old days on here.... 11 hours ago, scoobles said: So somebody thought they could read the courts mood and posited their hypothesis? Or they just spoke shit? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Have some respect FB, without RTC we may never have had such an enormous laugh at your dead clubs expense.Sent from my MotoG3 using Pie and Bovril mobile app 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wulliamwallace Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 For all of the fans from all over Scotland who spent their hard earned cash following their team week in week out through the EBT years, the very least the SFA can do is strip the tribute club of their TAINTED titles.CHEATS FC 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityDave Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 20 hours ago, Forever_blueco said: Seems to be the done thing on here ^ ^ ^ raging .........maybe?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 On 3/16/2017 at 11:15, weirdcal said: Daft question i am sure... but do the ebt side letters say rangers football club plc or just club when it indemnifies the player? If its the former, then different company argument will hold. That there's been a different company has never been an issue. Most teams in Scotland don't chart their club's history as being co-terminus with its registered company. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
senorsoupe Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 20 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said: That there's been a different company has never been an issue. Most teams in Scotland don't chart their club's history as being co-terminus with its registered company. I would like the opinion of Airdrie fans on this one 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, senorsoupe said: I would like the opinion of Airdrie fans on this one Why'd you need that? Do you track your club's existence by its company registration number? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.j Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 That there's been a different company has never been an issue. Most teams in Scotland don't chart their club's history as being co-terminus with its registered company. You say most teams in Scotland don't. Can you confirm who else would fall into this group of teams, alongside Rangers? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, dave.j said: You say most teams in Scotland don't. Can you confirm who else would fall into this group of teams, alongside Rangers? The Whistle springs to mind. You don't marry the history of your founding with your company registration. Do you? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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