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like with the flags contribution campaign, I would happily make a small donation to help pay for the equipment required to film games.

You'd help pay towards smaller crowds?

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1 hour ago, Grant228 said:

I get what you mean but I think you're missing the point I'm trying to make possibly.

 

Out of all the teams in this league I'd think you would probably receive amongst the lowest numbers of away supporters, as such if the away team were to produce it and receive the money (which would be entirely fair if it's the away team filming and streaming it) you would have the lowest in the league to lose with regards to away supporters. Whereas for example teams in the central belt who get there attendances bumped up by away fans would lose more in that sense. 

 

Likewise for away games QoTS have one of the lowest travelling supports, with a good proportion of those who live in Dumfries not attending games. If you were to start streaming the games and those fans were to start buying into it you would now be receiving money on a game day where previously you would receive nothing.

I think you are missing the point to be honest, or just disagreeing with it, not sure which? My point is we would be a net loser insofar as the number of away fans using it as an excuse not to go to Palmerston would cost us more than the number of our own fans we could sell such a service to at our away games. 

I may of course be wrong but thats the point I am trying to make. Whether we lose less out of it than a central based low support side isnt the point. Generally the winners of such a process will be the bigger supported sides and the losers the lower supported ones. I dont think there is much doubt which side of that coin we are on unfortunately.

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3 minutes ago, QoS_1919 said:


You'd help pay towards smaller crowds?

Before any of this comes to be reality I'm sure the club will look into the pro and cons of such a venture like SD has said. Also like Louis said if it is deemed that crowd numbers would fall even further and for no financial gain then of course I wouldn't. But we don't know either way yet. If crowd numbers stay the same or grow (due to a better product on the pitch etc) and the club can secure another revenue source as well as providing a service to expat fans like myself then absolutely. The discussion at least is worthwhile for the club to gauge opinion and engage with fans.

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SD's got this.

It's a bit of a non-runner for us for the reasons he suggests.  There's no doubt that any such offer would be tempting for some individuals.  Questions of scale however, mean that for the club, they make less sense.

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46 minutes ago, Doonhamer doon south said:

Before any of this comes to be reality I'm sure the club will look into the pro and cons of such a venture like SD has said. Also like Louis said if it is deemed that crowd numbers would fall even further and for no financial gain then of course I wouldn't. But we don't know either way yet. If crowd numbers stay the same or grow (due to a better product on the pitch etc) and the club can secure another revenue source as well as providing a service to expat fans like myself then absolutely. The discussion at least is worthwhile for the club to gauge opinion and engage with fans.

We have looked at the numbers and stuff to a fair extent already. We work with the guy who did trial broadcasts of East Fife games last year. We have a reasonable handle on the technical requirements, costs and efforts involved. Its unlikely to be anything like stacking up according to those who know a lot more about it than me (based on current rules). If such a hypothetical scenario of domestic streaming as suggested became an option I guess it could be looked at again, especially if away teams broadcasting from Palmerston was a fait accomplit and all we could do would be offset the losses, but thats purely hypothetical at the moment and we would still be a net loser out of such a scheme IMO.

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5 minutes ago, temps15 said:

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/2264417/queen-of-the-south-keeper-runaway-cow-dad-farm/

might not have a back up goalkeeper this weekend
actually found this quite funny only at Queens.

Could Speedy byers qos youth goalie Coach, be an emergency signing as cover then rather than him chasing after balls that go out the ground on match days!! Ha.

Edited by SUPERSOUTH

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25 minutes ago, temps15 said:

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/2264417/queen-of-the-south-keeper-runaway-cow-dad-farm/

might not have a back up goalkeeper this weekend
actually found this quite funny only at Queens.

I like how they feel it is essential to include a photograph of some random cows, just to uh, let their readership know what a cow might look like.

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31 minutes ago, lionel wickson said:

I like how they feel it is essential to include a photograph of some random cows, just to uh, let their readership know what a cow might look like.

The caption should really read 'Some cows yesterday'.  

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Silly bugger. What was he doing trying to grab it when the better option was to punch?

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Once again proof that if a cow ever got the chance, they would eat you and everyone you care about.

 

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Have to say that an incredibly high proportion of the goalkeepers signed  permanently has to have some sort of misfortune.

Colin Scott - Made of paper maché gets displaced by Andy Goram in the only cup final he ever played in, retires early.

Andy Goram - Swoops in, wins trophy, drinks the town dry. 

David Hutton - Career defined by a massive mistake 10 minutes into a cup final.

Ludovic Roy - Gets seriously injured after looking good 

Roddy McKenzie - Gets a stroke of luck by getting offered an extra year by accident, tears his ACL in a testimonial, retires after coming back and playing like someones dad at fives because you were short.

Bryn Halliwell - 'shrugs shoulders.'

Scott Fox - had to play as an amateur, for some reason we preferred David Hutton.

Lee Robinson - Comes in and fails to displace David Hutton and leaves mid season, comes back and stars despite the team getting relegated. Next season he becomes a cup winning cult hero, leaves to go to the arctic circle. Comes back and undoes all his previous good graces by conceding corners, daisy cutters, 40 yard headers. Falls out with Naysmith and leaves whilst being white knighted by his mate on P&B. It doesn't get worse than that really

Jim Atkinson - Doesn't get a break whilst he's here, as soon as he goes a mass injury crisis happens.

Callum Antell - Is so bad that he is now the byword for crap goalkeeping.

Alan Martin - Gets injured, then portly, then has to resemble a marshmallow in a not very flattering pink kit, then forgets how to do the whole goalkeeping thing, gets injured again.

Sam Henderson - Finally gets to go on the bench but is ruled out  the following week through a bovine related mishap.

 

If anyone has to fill in with some more examples (positive or negative) that would be great but my main take away is that we should only ever sign goalkeepers on loan.

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12 minutes ago, Sloop John B said:

Once again proof that if a cow ever got the chance, they would eat you and everyone you care about.

Have to say that an incredibly high proportion of the goalkeepers signed  permanently has to have some sort of misfortune.

Colin Scott - Made of paper maché gets displaced by Andy Goram in the only cup final he ever played in, retires early.

Andy Goram - Swoops in, wins trophy, drinks the town dry. 

David Hutton - Career defined by a massive mistake 10 minutes into a cup final.

Ludovic Roy - Gets seriously injured after looking good 

Roddy McKenzie - Gets a stroke of luck by getting offered an extra year by accident, tears his ACL in a testimonial, retires after coming back and playing like someones dad at fives because you were short.

Bryn Halliwell - 'shrugs shoulders.'

Scott Fox - had to play as an amateur, for some reason we preferred David Hutton.

Lee Robinson - Comes in and fails to displace David Hutton and leaves mid season, comes back and stars despite the team getting relegated. Next season he becomes a cup winning cult hero, leaves to go to the arctic circle. Comes back and undoes all his previous good graces by conceding corners, daisy cutters, 40 yard headers. Falls out with Naysmith and leaves whilst being white knighted by his mate on P&B. It doesn't get worse than that really

Jim Atkinson - Doesn't get a break whilst he's here, as soon as he goes a mass injury crisis happens.

Callum Antell - Is so bad that he is now the byword for crap goalkeeping.

Alan Martin - Gets injured, then portly, then has to resemble a marshmallow in a not very flattering pink kit, then forgets how to do the whole goalkeeping thing, gets injured again.

Sam Henderson - Finally gets to go on the bench but is ruled out  the following week through a bovine related mishap.

 

If anyone has to fill in with some more examples (positive or negative) that would be great but my main take away is that we should only ever sign goalkeepers on loan.

Good stuff. Well worth a greenie.

Probably worth adding that Atkinson is on the bench again two levels down,

 

Edited by Distant Doonhamer

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6 hours ago, temps15 said:

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/2264417/queen-of-the-south-keeper-runaway-cow-dad-farm/

might not have a back up goalkeeper this weekend
actually found this quite funny only at Queens.

I hear Queens have given him the wee calf to recover, which is reasonable. I hope he doesn’t try and milk it though. 

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Once again proof that if a cow ever got the chance, they would eat you and everyone you care about.
 
698347.gif?b64lines=
 
Have to say that an incredibly high proportion of the goalkeepers signed  permanently has to have some sort of misfortune.
Colin Scott - Made of paper maché gets displaced by Andy Goram in the only cup final he ever played in, retires early.
Andy Goram - Swoops in, wins trophy, drinks the town dry. 
David Hutton - Career defined by a massive mistake 10 minutes into a cup final.
Ludovic Roy - Gets seriously injured after looking good 
Roddy McKenzie - Gets a stroke of luck by getting offered an extra year by accident, tears his ACL in a testimonial, retires after coming back and playing like someones dad at fives because you were short.
Bryn Halliwell - 'shrugs shoulders.'
Scott Fox - had to play as an amateur, for some reason we preferred David Hutton.
Lee Robinson - Comes in and fails to displace David Hutton and leaves mid season, comes back and stars despite the team getting relegated. Next season he becomes a cup winning cult hero, leaves to go to the arctic circle. Comes back and undoes all his previous good graces by conceding corners, daisy cutters, 40 yard headers. Falls out with Naysmith and leaves whilst being white knighted by his mate on P&B. It doesn't get worse than that really
Jim Atkinson - Doesn't get a break whilst he's here, as soon as he goes a mass injury crisis happens.
Callum Antell - Is so bad that he is now the byword for crap goalkeeping.
Alan Martin - Gets injured, then portly, then has to resemble a marshmallow in a not very flattering pink kit, then forgets how to do the whole goalkeeping thing, gets injured again.
Sam Henderson - Finally gets to go on the bench but is ruled out  the following week through a bovine related mishap.
 
If anyone has to fill in with some more examples (positive or negative) that would be great but my main take away is that we should only ever sign goalkeepers on loan.

That was a great read!

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11 hours ago, Sloop John B said:

Once again proof that if a cow ever got the chance, they would eat you and everyone you care about.

 

698347.gif?b64lines=

 

Have to say that an incredibly high proportion of the goalkeepers signed  permanently has to have some sort of misfortune.

Colin Scott - Made of paper maché gets displaced by Andy Goram in the only cup final he ever played in, retires early.

Andy Goram - Swoops in, wins trophy, drinks the town dry. 

David Hutton - Career defined by a massive mistake 10 minutes into a cup final.

Ludovic Roy - Gets seriously injured after looking good 

Roddy McKenzie - Gets a stroke of luck by getting offered an extra year by accident, tears his ACL in a testimonial, retires after coming back and playing like someones dad at fives because you were short.

Bryn Halliwell - 'shrugs shoulders.'

Scott Fox - had to play as an amateur, for some reason we preferred David Hutton.

Lee Robinson - Comes in and fails to displace David Hutton and leaves mid season, comes back and stars despite the team getting relegated. Next season he becomes a cup winning cult hero, leaves to go to the arctic circle. Comes back and undoes all his previous good graces by conceding corners, daisy cutters, 40 yard headers. Falls out with Naysmith and leaves whilst being white knighted by his mate on P&B. It doesn't get worse than that really

Jim Atkinson - Doesn't get a break whilst he's here, as soon as he goes a mass injury crisis happens.

Callum Antell - Is so bad that he is now the byword for crap goalkeeping.

Alan Martin - Gets injured, then portly, then has to resemble a marshmallow in a not very flattering pink kit, then forgets how to do the whole goalkeeping thing, gets injured again.

Sam Henderson - Finally gets to go on the bench but is ruled out  the following week through a bovine related mishap.

 

If anyone has to fill in with some more examples (positive or negative) that would be great but my main take away is that we should only ever sign goalkeepers on loan.

Jamie MacDonald and Zander Clark (and for me Cammy Bell in a much shorter spell) were all big successes on loan. In an even shorter spell so was Craig Hinchcliffe.

You've missed the antics of Barry John Corr from your list. Probably the most bizarre of the lot!

 

Over the years we've had the likes of Speedy Byers, Stevie Morrison and Neil Scally sit on the bench as sub keepers too, mercifully unused. Kenny Arthur did a few games on the bench when GK coach and Clark was injured or unavailable. Didn't Allan Feruguson sit on the bench for us at least once in the McCall era?

Edited by Skyline Drifter

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14 hours ago, temps15 said:

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/2264417/queen-of-the-south-keeper-runaway-cow-dad-farm/

might not have a back up goalkeeper this weekend
actually found this quite funny only at Queens.

Not trying to discredit the lad, but "runaway cow" sounds like one of the dubious excuses I used to make up to hide injuries obtained while drunk

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See we've made FourFourTwo Australia

https://www.fourfourtwo.com.au/feature/queen-of-the-souths-back-up-goalkeeper-is-hit-by-a-runaway-cow-485704

 

Also the Daily Mail

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5419797/Queen-South-keeper-Sam-Henderson-injured-cow.html

"But he injured a shoulder when struck by a speeding cow at his dad's farm"

What was it doing even driving?!

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