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46 minutes ago, Doonhamer doon south said:

Before any of this comes to be reality I'm sure the club will look into the pro and cons of such a venture like SD has said. Also like Louis said if it is deemed that crowd numbers would fall even further and for no financial gain then of course I wouldn't. But we don't know either way yet. If crowd numbers stay the same or grow (due to a better product on the pitch etc) and the club can secure another revenue source as well as providing a service to expat fans like myself then absolutely. The discussion at least is worthwhile for the club to gauge opinion and engage with fans.

We have looked at the numbers and stuff to a fair extent already. We work with the guy who did trial broadcasts of East Fife games last year. We have a reasonable handle on the technical requirements, costs and efforts involved. Its unlikely to be anything like stacking up according to those who know a lot more about it than me (based on current rules). If such a hypothetical scenario of domestic streaming as suggested became an option I guess it could be looked at again, especially if away teams broadcasting from Palmerston was a fait accomplit and all we could do would be offset the losses, but thats purely hypothetical at the moment and we would still be a net loser out of such a scheme IMO.

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5 minutes ago, temps15 said:

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/2264417/queen-of-the-south-keeper-runaway-cow-dad-farm/

might not have a back up goalkeeper this weekend
actually found this quite funny only at Queens.

Could Speedy byers qos youth goalie Coach, be an emergency signing as cover then rather than him chasing after balls that go out the ground on match days!! Ha.

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25 minutes ago, temps15 said:

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/2264417/queen-of-the-south-keeper-runaway-cow-dad-farm/

might not have a back up goalkeeper this weekend
actually found this quite funny only at Queens.

I like how they feel it is essential to include a photograph of some random cows, just to uh, let their readership know what a cow might look like.

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Once again proof that if a cow ever got the chance, they would eat you and everyone you care about.

 

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Have to say that an incredibly high proportion of the goalkeepers signed  permanently has to have some sort of misfortune.

Colin Scott - Made of paper maché gets displaced by Andy Goram in the only cup final he ever played in, retires early.

Andy Goram - Swoops in, wins trophy, drinks the town dry. 

David Hutton - Career defined by a massive mistake 10 minutes into a cup final.

Ludovic Roy - Gets seriously injured after looking good 

Roddy McKenzie - Gets a stroke of luck by getting offered an extra year by accident, tears his ACL in a testimonial, retires after coming back and playing like someones dad at fives because you were short.

Bryn Halliwell - 'shrugs shoulders.'

Scott Fox - had to play as an amateur, for some reason we preferred David Hutton.

Lee Robinson - Comes in and fails to displace David Hutton and leaves mid season, comes back and stars despite the team getting relegated. Next season he becomes a cup winning cult hero, leaves to go to the arctic circle. Comes back and undoes all his previous good graces by conceding corners, daisy cutters, 40 yard headers. Falls out with Naysmith and leaves whilst being white knighted by his mate on P&B. It doesn't get worse than that really

Jim Atkinson - Doesn't get a break whilst he's here, as soon as he goes a mass injury crisis happens.

Callum Antell - Is so bad that he is now the byword for crap goalkeeping.

Alan Martin - Gets injured, then portly, then has to resemble a marshmallow in a not very flattering pink kit, then forgets how to do the whole goalkeeping thing, gets injured again.

Sam Henderson - Finally gets to go on the bench but is ruled out  the following week through a bovine related mishap.

 

If anyone has to fill in with some more examples (positive or negative) that would be great but my main take away is that we should only ever sign goalkeepers on loan.

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12 minutes ago, Sloop John B said:

Once again proof that if a cow ever got the chance, they would eat you and everyone you care about.

Have to say that an incredibly high proportion of the goalkeepers signed  permanently has to have some sort of misfortune.

Colin Scott - Made of paper maché gets displaced by Andy Goram in the only cup final he ever played in, retires early.

Andy Goram - Swoops in, wins trophy, drinks the town dry. 

David Hutton - Career defined by a massive mistake 10 minutes into a cup final.

Ludovic Roy - Gets seriously injured after looking good 

Roddy McKenzie - Gets a stroke of luck by getting offered an extra year by accident, tears his ACL in a testimonial, retires after coming back and playing like someones dad at fives because you were short.

Bryn Halliwell - 'shrugs shoulders.'

Scott Fox - had to play as an amateur, for some reason we preferred David Hutton.

Lee Robinson - Comes in and fails to displace David Hutton and leaves mid season, comes back and stars despite the team getting relegated. Next season he becomes a cup winning cult hero, leaves to go to the arctic circle. Comes back and undoes all his previous good graces by conceding corners, daisy cutters, 40 yard headers. Falls out with Naysmith and leaves whilst being white knighted by his mate on P&B. It doesn't get worse than that really

Jim Atkinson - Doesn't get a break whilst he's here, as soon as he goes a mass injury crisis happens.

Callum Antell - Is so bad that he is now the byword for crap goalkeeping.

Alan Martin - Gets injured, then portly, then has to resemble a marshmallow in a not very flattering pink kit, then forgets how to do the whole goalkeeping thing, gets injured again.

Sam Henderson - Finally gets to go on the bench but is ruled out  the following week through a bovine related mishap.

 

If anyone has to fill in with some more examples (positive or negative) that would be great but my main take away is that we should only ever sign goalkeepers on loan.

Good stuff. Well worth a greenie.

Probably worth adding that Atkinson is on the bench again two levels down,

 

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6 hours ago, temps15 said:

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/2264417/queen-of-the-south-keeper-runaway-cow-dad-farm/

might not have a back up goalkeeper this weekend
actually found this quite funny only at Queens.

I hear Queens have given him the wee calf to recover, which is reasonable. I hope he doesn’t try and milk it though. 

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Once again proof that if a cow ever got the chance, they would eat you and everyone you care about.
 
698347.gif?b64lines=
 
Have to say that an incredibly high proportion of the goalkeepers signed  permanently has to have some sort of misfortune.
Colin Scott - Made of paper maché gets displaced by Andy Goram in the only cup final he ever played in, retires early.
Andy Goram - Swoops in, wins trophy, drinks the town dry. 
David Hutton - Career defined by a massive mistake 10 minutes into a cup final.
Ludovic Roy - Gets seriously injured after looking good 
Roddy McKenzie - Gets a stroke of luck by getting offered an extra year by accident, tears his ACL in a testimonial, retires after coming back and playing like someones dad at fives because you were short.
Bryn Halliwell - 'shrugs shoulders.'
Scott Fox - had to play as an amateur, for some reason we preferred David Hutton.
Lee Robinson - Comes in and fails to displace David Hutton and leaves mid season, comes back and stars despite the team getting relegated. Next season he becomes a cup winning cult hero, leaves to go to the arctic circle. Comes back and undoes all his previous good graces by conceding corners, daisy cutters, 40 yard headers. Falls out with Naysmith and leaves whilst being white knighted by his mate on P&B. It doesn't get worse than that really
Jim Atkinson - Doesn't get a break whilst he's here, as soon as he goes a mass injury crisis happens.
Callum Antell - Is so bad that he is now the byword for crap goalkeeping.
Alan Martin - Gets injured, then portly, then has to resemble a marshmallow in a not very flattering pink kit, then forgets how to do the whole goalkeeping thing, gets injured again.
Sam Henderson - Finally gets to go on the bench but is ruled out  the following week through a bovine related mishap.
 
If anyone has to fill in with some more examples (positive or negative) that would be great but my main take away is that we should only ever sign goalkeepers on loan.

That was a great read!
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11 hours ago, Sloop John B said:

Once again proof that if a cow ever got the chance, they would eat you and everyone you care about.

 

698347.gif?b64lines=

 

Have to say that an incredibly high proportion of the goalkeepers signed  permanently has to have some sort of misfortune.

Colin Scott - Made of paper maché gets displaced by Andy Goram in the only cup final he ever played in, retires early.

Andy Goram - Swoops in, wins trophy, drinks the town dry. 

David Hutton - Career defined by a massive mistake 10 minutes into a cup final.

Ludovic Roy - Gets seriously injured after looking good 

Roddy McKenzie - Gets a stroke of luck by getting offered an extra year by accident, tears his ACL in a testimonial, retires after coming back and playing like someones dad at fives because you were short.

Bryn Halliwell - 'shrugs shoulders.'

Scott Fox - had to play as an amateur, for some reason we preferred David Hutton.

Lee Robinson - Comes in and fails to displace David Hutton and leaves mid season, comes back and stars despite the team getting relegated. Next season he becomes a cup winning cult hero, leaves to go to the arctic circle. Comes back and undoes all his previous good graces by conceding corners, daisy cutters, 40 yard headers. Falls out with Naysmith and leaves whilst being white knighted by his mate on P&B. It doesn't get worse than that really

Jim Atkinson - Doesn't get a break whilst he's here, as soon as he goes a mass injury crisis happens.

Callum Antell - Is so bad that he is now the byword for crap goalkeeping.

Alan Martin - Gets injured, then portly, then has to resemble a marshmallow in a not very flattering pink kit, then forgets how to do the whole goalkeeping thing, gets injured again.

Sam Henderson - Finally gets to go on the bench but is ruled out  the following week through a bovine related mishap.

 

If anyone has to fill in with some more examples (positive or negative) that would be great but my main take away is that we should only ever sign goalkeepers on loan.

Jamie MacDonald and Zander Clark (and for me Cammy Bell in a much shorter spell) were all big successes on loan. In an even shorter spell so was Craig Hinchcliffe.

You've missed the antics of Barry John Corr from your list. Probably the most bizarre of the lot!

 

Over the years we've had the likes of Speedy Byers, Stevie Morrison and Neil Scally sit on the bench as sub keepers too, mercifully unused. Kenny Arthur did a few games on the bench when GK coach and Clark was injured or unavailable. Didn't Allan Feruguson sit on the bench for us at least once in the McCall era?

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14 hours ago, temps15 said:

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/2264417/queen-of-the-south-keeper-runaway-cow-dad-farm/

might not have a back up goalkeeper this weekend
actually found this quite funny only at Queens.

Not trying to discredit the lad, but "runaway cow" sounds like one of the dubious excuses I used to make up to hide injuries obtained while drunk

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See we've made FourFourTwo Australia

https://www.fourfourtwo.com.au/feature/queen-of-the-souths-back-up-goalkeeper-is-hit-by-a-runaway-cow-485704

 

Also the Daily Mail

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5419797/Queen-South-keeper-Sam-Henderson-injured-cow.html

"But he injured a shoulder when struck by a speeding cow at his dad's farm"

What was it doing even driving?!

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12 hours ago, Sloop John B said:

Callum Antell - Is so bad that he is now the byword for crap goalkeeping.

Always have a little search of these forums for Calum Antell whenever the boy is mentioned. Seems he has put in a few good performances at Edinburgh City and is described as their "player of the year". Emergency loan?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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21 hours ago, Salvo Montalbano said:
On 21/02/2018 at 09:43, BIGdavieT said:
League 1 & League 2 Clubs in England have signed a deal enabling them to broadcast a live stream not only to foreign viewers but UK based viewers also.

Is this a good or bad thing? Overall I’m not sure.

Would such a service be beneficial to us if the Scottish league does the same? It’ll probably continue to affect away attendances (I think the foreign streams already do,) but would a few of the fans who can’t be areas to turn up shell out a few quid to watch in their living room?

Where is this being reported? They agreed last year that they could do this for midweek games (i.e. still respecting the UEFA Blackout periods) when they announced the new Sky deal. Are they now saying they are allowing Saturday 3pm games to be streamed? If they do then the games a bogey - it won't be long before other, bigger clubs demand the same.

Not sure that anything other than the midweek games has been agreed. Would have thought that any changes would come in as part of a new deal. The EFL clubs are meeting this week, but don't think this is on the agenda. 

On the question of streaming midweek games, one of the things that has worked well in L1 & L2 is beamback to the away club. The home club gets a fixed fee to compensate for loss of revenue and the away club  streams the game in their bars, hospitality areas to make money. This might work well in Scotland if the investment, technology etc was in place. For example, if Queens were away in the central belt midweek, they could charge fans in Dumfries say a tenner with pies and peas thrown in and make a bit of cash. Not sure what the uptake of this would be, but maybe a hundred fans is possible. This would bring in £1000 plus bar sales and might work for clubs like Queens? 

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50 minutes ago, senorsoupe said:

Not trying to discredit the lad, but "runaway cow" sounds like one of the dubious excuses I used to make up to hide injuries obtained while drunk

Are you saying it is a load of bull?

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