Nithsdale Wanderer Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 5 minutes ago, Southman75 said: It's quite an irrational dislike you have for the manager who's only really had half a season in charge. Is that you, JT ?? It's far from irrational just based on what I have witnessed since he arrived. Everything about him is negative - body language, demeanour and his utterings about the team not to mention the football on offer. Oh, and now he and his Assistant are mentioning the 'B' word and having to run with a small squad I can assure you I am usually supportive and right behind our Managers and players but there is something different about this one. For years we have had a relatively 'happy ship' with great unity and team spirit which was manifest in our performances on the field but that is definitely not the case any more. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERSOUTH Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Nithsdale Wanderer said: It's far from irrational just based on what I have witnessed since he arrived. Everything about him is negative - body language, demeanour and his utterings about the team not to mention the football on offer. Oh, and now he and his Assistant are mentioning the 'B' word and having to run with a small squad I can assure you I am usually supportive and right behind our Managers and players but there is something different about this one. For years we have had a relatively 'happy ship' with great unity and team spirit which was manifest in our performances on the field but that is definitely not the case any more. The relatively 'happy ship' hasn't taken us very far hopefully this new look manager/squad can take us one step further. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sloop John B Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, palmy_cammy said: Binning Robinson can only be a good thing, he was a complete liability last season and towards the end had turned into a complete parody of himself. It was actually embarrassing that he was a member of the coaching staff. I can't help feeling that his erratic behaviour was a huge factor in our defensive shakiness. You always hear defenders comment about the confidence playing in front of a solid goalkeeper instills in them. Presumably the opposite is also true. Robinson has always been an inconsistent performer, whereas the same can't really be said for Dowie and Higgins who have been solid throughout their time with us. Given the youthful look to our defence this coming season, I'm starting to think that getting rid of both of them was a mistake. I would have been inclined to have kept one, probably Dowie, to provide backup and much needed experience. I tend to agree with keeping one of them, even if it had grown stale and mistakes started creeping for the both of them. Whether that is the result of Father Time, the lack of a consistent goalkeeper or not getting a regular run as a defensive pairing for various reasons. They aren't scrubs by any stretch I think both players are probably in better situations now at this point in their careers where they are the clear starter whereas if they stayed they'd be rotating all the time or not playing. It's a vote of confidence in Brownlie, I'm not going to pretend like I think that is the right person to trust, but he isn't a youngster anymore with 3 years experience at this level for us and Cowdenbeath and perhaps playing with someone of a similar age like Fordyce could develop better chemistry than Dowie or Higgins. It's a massive season for him next year. Edited June 21, 2017 by Sloop John B 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nithsdale Wanderer Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 15 minutes ago, SUPERSOUTH said: The relatively 'happy ship' hasn't taken us very far hopefully this new look manager/squad can take us one step further. Magic made us double winners whilst providing the most entertaining, attacking football I have witnessed in all my years at Palmerston, McIntyre carried that on and took us to the play-offs following which Fowler reached the same heights where we lost narrowly to Rangers but took to the pitch with a belief that we could beat them alongside which I saw one of the best performances ever from a Queens team when we destroyed the Gers that memorable Thursday evening in April. That's a relatively good return for a Club of our size which I don't see changing much unless we have a massive cash injection no matter who is in charge. More importantly though, alongside those achievements it was really good football to watch, which is what people want to see. Naysmith has not produced anything like that so far perhaps with the exception of the Challenge Cup SF 2nd half where we had no option but to go for it. He is, by nature, a cautious, pessimistic type. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjc-1988 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Binning Robinson can only be a good thing, he was a complete liability last season and towards the end had turned into a complete parody of himself. It was actually embarrassing that he was a member of the coaching staff. I can't help feeling that his erratic behaviour was a huge factor in our defensive shakiness. You always hear defenders comment about the confidence playing in front of a solid goalkeeper instills in them. Presumably the opposite is also true. Robinson has always been an inconsistent performer, whereas the same can't really be said for Dowie and Higgins who have been solid throughout their time with us. Given the youthful look to our defence this coming season, I'm starting to think that getting rid of both of them was a mistake. I would have been inclined to have kept one, probably Dowie, to provide backup and much needed experience. On the subject of our central defence I will be very interested to see what our replacements look like. Higgy and Dowie both had disappointing spells last season - there is no disputing that but so did almost every other player in the squad.Fordyce was a decent player at Livvy but has had horrendous time with injuries. He is hardly a marquee signing and in my view if we are freeing two stalwarts who have really delivered for us it is not unreasonable to expect some quality in return otherwise what is the point? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Fordyce might be better than you expect. Was playing really well for us after getting himself fit and it was only because we were able to pick up Calum Morris that Fordyce dropped out of the picture. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Besty Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, 19QOS19 said: If besty is older than 15 I'd be ast 5 hours ago, 19QOS19 said: If besty is older than 15 I'd be astounded. When I think about it we are alot alike we are both unemployed and living with parents ,only difference is I'm at school and don't have a tattoo Edited June 21, 2017 by Besty 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 If you think you know who I am you are way off with your information 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
football maniac Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Every day a player I'm expecting us to be after is being snapped up by another club. Dylan Mackin being the latest. We really need a striker. Lyle last season picked up niggles every week which this season may eventually catch up with him. Even rumours he is thinking of retiring although not sure if true. Dykes not sure he is good enough tbh So the question is who remains out there? Andy Ryan would be terrific but I think there may be a compensation issue if he has been offered a deal by Airdrie. Rory Loy and Brian Graham are outside bets if we are looking for quality rather than quantity. We may sacrifice having more squad members if we can entice players of this ilk to the club. The one I heard is Eamann Brophy though and he would fit the bill. Maybe Dylan Bikey? We need a winger and Connolly been targeted although again wages an issue potentially. I also feel we need a cm especially one who can score as none we have now are capable of anything over 1 a season. Joe Thomson would be perfect. If we could get Gunning in at cb we suddenly would have a much stronger look about us. I feel the 3 remaining signings must be of good quality and a step up from what we have had before. I feel at times Naisy looks for versatility over ability so hopefully we can get 3 specialist for their positions. Fordyce and Rooney hardly set the pulses racing but if we could get 3 of these players the optimism would suddenly swing into fever pitch. Martin has been our 1 signing everyone agrees is quality. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Vojáček Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, football maniac said: Every day a player I'm expecting us to be after is being snapped up by another club. Dylan Mackin being the latest. We really need a striker. Lyle last season picked up niggles every week which this season may eventually catch up with him. Even rumours he is thinking of retiring although not sure if true. Dykes not sure he is good enough tbh So the question is who remains out there? Andy Ryan would be terrific but I think there may be a compensation issue if he has been offered a deal by Airdrie. Rory Loy and Brian Graham are outside bets if we are looking for quality rather than quantity. We may sacrifice having more squad members if we can entice players of this ilk to the club. The one I heard is Eamann Brophy though and he would fit the bill. Maybe Dylan Bikey? We need a winger and Connolly been targeted although again wages an issue potentially. I also feel we need a cm especially one who can score as none we have now are capable of anything over 1 a season. Joe Thomson would be perfect. If we could get Gunning in at cb we suddenly would have a much stronger look about us. I feel the 3 remaining signings must be of good quality and a step up from what we have had before. I feel at times Naisy looks for versatility over ability so hopefully we can get 3 specialist for their positions. Fordyce and Rooney hardly set the pulses racing but if we could get 3 of these players the optimism would suddenly swing into fever pitch. Martin has been our 1 signing everyone agrees is quality. He's under contract at Airdrie for another year, so you'd owe them a fee. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NM_1919 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Every day a player I'm expecting us to be after is being snapped up by another club. Dylan Mackin being the latest. We really need a striker. Lyle last season picked up niggles every week which this season may eventually catch up with him. Even rumours he is thinking of retiring although not sure if true. Dykes not sure he is good enough tbh So the question is who remains out there? Andy Ryan would be terrific but I think there may be a compensation issue if he has been offered a deal by Airdrie. Rory Loy and Brian Graham are outside bets if we are looking for quality rather than quantity. We may sacrifice having more squad members if we can entice players of this ilk to the club. The one I heard is Eamann Brophy though and he would fit the bill. Maybe Dylan Bikey? We need a winger and Connolly been targeted although again wages an issue potentially. I also feel we need a cm especially one who can score as none we have now are capable of anything over 1 a season. Joe Thomson would be perfect. If we could get Gunning in at cb we suddenly would have a much stronger look about us. I feel the 3 remaining signings must be of good quality and a step up from what we have had before. I feel at times Naisy looks for versatility over ability so hopefully we can get 3 specialist for their positions. Fordyce and Rooney hardly set the pulses racing but if we could get 3 of these players the optimism would suddenly swing into fever pitch. Martin has been our 1 signing everyone agrees is quality. The signing of defenders rarely set hearts pulsing, unless your signing someone of significant quality, don't think many have ever got over excited about a defender signing for us. The players you have mentioned id probably take them all. The one thing Naysmith mentioned was that he's wanting a younger squad as he thinks they'll be hungrier for success, he's wanting to play games with a high tempo, they emphasised last night the creativeness of dan and Andrew Stirling so the long ball thing might be out the window. I'd certainly like to see an experienced man in defence brought in, but doesn't seem a lot available, think gunning we have next to no chance tbh. I doubt the midfielder will be a centre mid, probably another winger number 10 type where Aiden Connolly would definitely fit the bill, Sam Stanton maybe another. Upfront I really have no clue now, really crying out for someone with a good bit of pace along with a goal threat Andy Ryan I doubt with the need of a transfer fee, brophy I've never seen play to my knowledge but obviously a decent record for 20s. Joe Thomson was mentioned a couple of times, obvious the manager is a big fan, but he said centre midfield wasn't one of his major priorities. But if the chance arose he'd basically be chapping on the board room door to try make it happen if his budget is all used, which you'd hope they'd do for a player of that quality and with Tappings injury record. I was worrying about the lack of progress in transfer market but after listening to Naysmith last night, I'm confident he knows what he wants and needs for the team. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northfield 53 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Did Naysmith say last night if he was close to signing anyone or is it a waiting game.The players he wants will only come if they can't get a better offer elsewhere 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERSOUTH Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, Northfield 53 said: Did Naysmith say last night if he was close to signing anyone or is it a waiting game.The players he wants will only come if they can't get a better offer elsewhere In no rush but knows what he wants. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NM_1919 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 No mention of anything close, but did say clubs are still finalising their squads, maybe waiting on certain players becoming available 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northfield 53 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 7 minutes ago, SUPERSOUTH said: In no rush but knows what he wants. If he knows what he wants why does he not go out and get it like every other manager 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Thompson Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 1 hour ago, football maniac said: Every day a player I'm expecting us to be after is being snapped up by another club. Dylan Mackin being the latest. We really need a striker. Lyle last season picked up niggles every week which this season may eventually catch up with him. Even rumours he is thinking of retiring although not sure if true. Dykes not sure he is good enough tbh So the question is who remains out there? Andy Ryan would be terrific but I think there may be a compensation issue if he has been offered a deal by Airdrie. Rory Loy and Brian Graham are outside bets if we are looking for quality rather than quantity. We may sacrifice having more squad members if we can entice players of this ilk to the club. The one I heard is Eamann Brophy though and he would fit the bill. Maybe Dylan Bikey? We need a winger and Connolly been targeted although again wages an issue potentially. I also feel we need a cm especially one who can score as none we have now are capable of anything over 1 a season. Joe Thomson would be perfect. If we could get Gunning in at cb we suddenly would have a much stronger look about us. I feel the 3 remaining signings must be of good quality and a step up from what we have had before. I feel at times Naisy looks for versatility over ability so hopefully we can get 3 specialist for their positions. Fordyce and Rooney hardly set the pulses racing but if we could get 3 of these players the optimism would suddenly swing into fever pitch. Martin has been our 1 signing everyone agrees is quality. What would be in the slightest bit exciting about signing Dylan Mackin?? 7 minutes ago, Northfield 53 said: If he knows what he wants why does he not go out and get it like every other manager We've signed four players already - three in areas every fan identified as being weak last season, including one who was arguably the best in the division - plus a proven winger in Stirling. Do you know how many Championship teams have signed more than four players so far? One. There are five teams that havent even signed that many. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, Mr X said: What would be in the slightest bit exciting about signing Dylan Mackin?? With the greatest of respect to the lad, not even we would have been excited at (re)signing Dylan Mackin. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeplechat Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 If he knows what he wants why does he not go out and get it like every other manager It's not always as easy as you think . You need to take a chill pill 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 It's not always as easy as you think . You need to take a chill pill Get the finger oot Gary. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Flash Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 I heart Naysmith. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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