19QOS19 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 In which case outfield players wouldn't miss place a pass, miss a tackle ,miss hit a free kick, overhit a corner etc As for goalkeepers I saw queens v Dundee utd And watched Cammy bell kick the ball out of play for two consecutive goal kicks, that was n the first half and before substituting himself at half time . This is the real world remember the majority of players at This level are a tadge better than English non league players. I dare South shields would turn qos over The same South Shields we beat 3-1 last season? Away for a lie down. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Thompson Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 7 minutes ago, Besty said: In which case outfield players wouldn't miss place a pass, miss a tackle ,miss hit a free kick, overhit a corner etc As for goalkeepers I saw queens v Dundee utd And watched Cammy bell kick the ball out of play for two consecutive goal kicks, that was n the first half and before substituting himself at half time . This is the real world remember the majority of players at This level are a tadge better than English non league players. I dare South shields would turn qos over I typed a reply but the site went down and I cant be bothered typing it again Basically, if you cant see the difference between taking a goal kick and passing the ball in normal play I think we're done here 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Besty Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 5 minutes ago, 19QOS19 said: The same South Shields we beat 3-1 last season? Away for a lie down. No the one that won the fa vase with a score average of 4 goals a game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Besty Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, Mr X said: I typed a reply but the site went down and I cant be bothered typing it again Basically, if you cant see the difference between taking a goal kick and passing the ball in normal play I think we're done here And the difference is ? FYI trying to put the ball on someone's head from 60 metres within a couple of square yds is a damn site harder than playing a shorter ball to someone who can move and Is Not surrounded by 14 to 16 players . Practice yourself and give It A go, maybe upload a video. I rest my case Edited June 17, 2017 by Besty 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Thompson Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 21 minutes ago, Besty said: And the difference is ? FYI trying to put the ball on someone's head from 60 metres within a couple of square yds is a damn site harder than playing a shorter ball to someone who can move and Is Not surrounded by 14 to 16 players . Practice yourself and give It A go, maybe upload a video. I rest my case The keeper has to hit anywhere between the line and the centre circle so I think we can knock the "couple of square yards" bollocks on the head straight away. The difference is pretty obvious. Outfield players rarely, if ever, play exactly the same pass twice. The distance to the other player, speed of the ball, their own body angle, position and pressure from the opposition will never be the same. Even free kicks are from different positions, angles, distances etc. A corner is the only thing reasonably similar but even then, the corner taker is hitting a smaller target area and putting a lot more pace on the ball. A goal kick is an, unchallenged, unrushed kick from exactly the same place on the field aiming at exactly the same place on the field. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERSOUTH Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Lots of champ league strikers on the move canny believe No one has come in for Dobbs or have they? Has he just got qos blood through him.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirkyblue2 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 43 minutes ago, Mr X said: I typed a reply but the site went down and I cant be bothered typing it again Basically, if you cant see the difference between taking a goal kick and passing the ball in normal play I think we're done here Was the reply f**k off you tedious c**t? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Besty Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, Mr X said: The keeper has to hit anywhere between the line and the centre circle so I think we can knock the "couple of square yards" bollocks on the head straight away. The difference is pretty obvious. Outfield players rarely, if ever, play exactly the same pass twice. The distance to the other player, speed of the ball, their own body angle, position and pressure from the opposition will never be the same. Even free kicks are from different positions, angles, distances etc. A corner is the only thing reasonably similar but even then, the corner taker is hitting a smaller target area and putting a lot more pace on the ball. A goal kick is an, unchallenged, unrushed kick from exactly the same place on the field aiming at exactly the same place on the field. It's hard to get through to A brick wall but I'll try one more time. Think of it as a hole in one to a golfer no challenge etc. There's one man usually dykes,del,or Anderson prior to that so what happens is the big opposing players go in that area and presto we never win AZ ball. Do you follow me so far You don't expect the Smaller team members to win a ball in the air against a centre half do you.? As I mentioned previously the player hog the line therefore what you suggested was as I also mentioned b@locks. Its apparent that this is the way the gaffer sets it up,therefore odd times balls will go out of play. Martin has a. Huge kick amongst his locker(maybe the attraction) and will no doubt do exactly the same if asked. Further more you analology regarding never playing the same pass twice is absurd,also when would you ever chose to pass the ball to a marked player. Players are generally in space when receiving the ball, but if you haven't played you wouldn't know how it works. Now can I suggest you read and digest before replying. Edited June 17, 2017 by Besty 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie Mills Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 29 minutes ago, Besty said: It's hard to get through to A brick wall but I'll try one more time. Think of it as a hole in one to a golfer no challenge etc. There's one man usually dykes,del,or Anderson prior to that so what happens is the big opposing players go in that area and presto we never win AZ ball. Do you follow me so far You don't expect the Smaller team members to win a ball in the air against a centre half do you.? As I mentioned previously the player hog the line therefore what you suggested was as I also mentioned b@locks. Its apparent that this is the way the gaffer sets it up,therefore odd times balls will go out of play. Martin has a. Huge kick amongst his locker(maybe the attraction) and will no doubt do exactly the same if asked. Further more you analology regarding never playing the same pass twice is absurd,also when would you ever chose to pass the ball to a marked player. Players are generally in space when receiving the ball, but if you haven't played you wouldn't know how it works. Now can I suggest you read and digest before replying. What the f**k is an anolology? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, Dougie Mills said: What the f**k is an anolology? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Doonhamer Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 42 minutes ago, Besty said: It's hard to get through to A brick wall but I'll try one more time. Think of it as a hole in one to a golfer no challenge etc. There's one man usually dykes,del,or Anderson prior to that so what happens is the big opposing players go in that area and presto we never win AZ ball. Do you follow me so far You don't expect the Smaller team members to win a ball in the air against a centre half do you.? As I mentioned previously the player hog the line therefore what you suggested was as I also mentioned b@locks. Its apparent that this is the way the gaffer sets it up,therefore odd times balls will go out of play. Martin has a. Huge kick amongst his locker(maybe the attraction) and will no doubt do exactly the same if asked. Further more you analology regarding never playing the same pass twice is absurd,also when would you ever chose to pass the ball to a marked player. Players are generally in space when receiving the ball, but if you haven't played you wouldn't know how it works. Now can I suggest you read and digest before replying. Besty has an ology. The subject matter would seem to be anal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirkyblue2 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Analology A religion devoted to the love making act of anal penetration, invented in the late 60s by one referred to as Bailidge. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Thompson Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 59 minutes ago, Besty said: It's hard to get through to A brick wall but I'll try one more time. Think of it as a hole in one to a golfer no challenge etc. There's one man usually dykes,del,or Anderson prior to that so what happens is the big opposing players go in that area and presto we never win AZ ball. Do you follow me so far Yes, but actually winning the ball, or how many players are in that area has absolutely no bearing on the keepers ability to kick the ball in that general direction, which is all thats required. 59 minutes ago, Besty said: You don't expect the Smaller team members to win a ball in the air against a centre half do you.? No, but again, its not relevant. 59 minutes ago, Besty said: As I mentioned previously the player hog the line therefore what you suggested was as I also mentioned b@locks. You did mention bollocks .. a lot. The players do hug the touchline, generally so that they can run inside and take a running jump at the ball rather than a standing one. As I said, the keeper really only needs to hit an area between the line and the centre circle, roughly. 59 minutes ago, Besty said: Its apparent that this is the way the gaffer sets it up,therefore odd times balls will go out of play. Martin has a. Huge kick amongst his locker(maybe the attraction) and will no doubt do exactly the same if asked. The odd time, yes, but it was far more regular than that last season. It remains to be seen if Martin is asked to do the same and/or if he's any better at it. He couldnt really be any worse though 59 minutes ago, Besty said: Further more you analology regarding never playing the same pass twice is absurd,also when would you ever chose to pass the ball to a marked player. Its not absurd in the slightest. Just because you didnt understand it didnt make it absurd. I never once mentioned passing to a marked player Put it another way, a keeper could spend hours on the training pitch practising goal kicks with absolutely no one else on the pitch and that would replicate exactly what he has to do during a match. No other player could do that for any aspect of the game, with the possible exception of corners. 59 minutes ago, Besty said: Players are generally in space when receiving the ball, but if you haven't played you wouldn't know how it works. Ah, the good old "you've never played". The battle cry of the desperate 59 minutes ago, Besty said: Now can I suggest you read and digest before replying. I struggle to read what you post. Can I suggest the same to you, before you hit reply 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Thompson Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 4 hours ago, kirkyblue2 said: Was the reply f**k off you tedious c**t? Im beginning to think it should have been. Im also beginning to worry that this might actually be Lee Robinson 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Paddy Flannery Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Im beginning to think it should have been. Im also beginning to worry that this might actually be Lee Robinson [emoji38] He's 100% connected to him in some form.I can promise you Alan Martin is an astronomical upgrade on Robinson. Think of the amount of shite Worsty talks, that's how much better Martin is than Robinson. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Besty Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Bring Back Paddy Flannery said: He's 100% connected to him in some form. I can promise you Alan Martin is an astronomical upgrade on Robinson. Think of the amount of shite Worsty talks, that's how much better Martin is than Robinson. Bloody hell there's 2 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Besty Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Bring Back Paddy Flannery said: He's 100% connected to him in some form. I can promise you Alan Martin is an astronomical upgrade on Robinson. Think of the amount of shite Worsty talks, that's how much better Martin is than Robinson. Just an admirer of talent hence the username best derived from that fabulous talented footballer George Best Whey hey 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Besty Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Mr X said: Yes, but actually winning the ball, or how many players are in that area has absolutely no bearing on the keepers ability to kick the ball in that general direction, which is all thats required. No, but again, its not relevant. You did mention bollocks .. a lot. The players do hug the touchline, generally so that they can run inside and take a running jump at the ball rather than a standing one. As I said, the keeper really only needs to hit an area between the line and the centre circle, roughly. The odd time, yes, but it was far more regular than that last season. It remains to be seen if Martin is asked to do the same and/or if he's any better at it. He couldnt really be any worse though Its not absurd in the slightest. Just because you didnt understand it didnt make it absurd. I never once mentioned passing to a marked player Put it another way, a keeper could spend hours on the training pitch practising goal kicks with absolutely no one else on the pitch and that would replicate exactly what he has to do during a match. No other player could do that for any aspect of the game, with the possible exception of corners. Ah, the good old "you've never played". The battle cry of the desperate I struggle to read what you post. Can I suggest the same to you, before you hit reply That's some run and jump, ha I guess I gave you more credit than you're worth apologies and It Wasn't even "joined up"writing You know It would be great if the photos of the posters were attached to there quotes as I have my only little picture in my head , they all look like people I Wouldn't associated with in real life,yet here I am trying to educate them funny Isn't. Edited June 17, 2017 by Besty 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Thompson Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 8 minutes ago, Besty said: That's some run as and jump, ha I guess I gave you more credit than you're worth apologies and It Wasn't even "joined up"writing Dear god, you had to edit that? So, you're saying players dont run and jump for high balls? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirkyblue2 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Can Besty go the same way as Rusty? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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