HoBNob Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 47 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: Both sides have to sign the deal. We had an option on Gregory Tade, took up the option, he refused to sign and he moved on for nothing. Players hold the power. What's the point in it then? What's different to say just offering the player another year extension? I'm evidently not very clued up on player contracts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 5 minutes ago, Grant228 said: What's the point in it then? What's different to say just offering the player another year extension? I'm evidently not very clued up on player contracts. I think theres meant to be a sort of "gentlemans agreement" that if either side want to extend then they will. But you're reliant on people sticking by their word. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGPar Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 56 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: I think theres meant to be a sort of "gentlemans agreement" that if either side want to extend then they will. But you're reliant on people sticking by their word. It's nothing of the sort. These are formal terms written into a players contract to protect the club from said player buggering off for nothing at the end of the contract. Sibbald never kicked a ball in August because he wanted a straight one year deal whilst the club would only countenance a year with a years option. Falkirk won. So whilst Sibbald may well be agitating for a move again this summer, he'll automatically be under contract for 2018/19 and any club looking to take him will have to cough up a transfer fee. The option is at the discretion of the club, not the player, otherwise it is totally pointless. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, AGPar said: It's nothing of the sort. These are formal terms written into a players contract to protect the club from said player buggering off for nothing at the end of the contract. Sibbald never kicked a ball in August because he wanted a straight one year deal whilst the club would only countenance a year with a years option. Falkirk won. So whilst Sibbald may well be agitating for a move again this summer, he'll automatically be under contract for 2018/19 and any club looking to take him will have to cough up a transfer fee. The option is at the discretion of the club, not the player, otherwise it is totally pointless. Maybe theres different versions, all I know is St Johnstone had an option on Tades contract and triggered it with his agent, he admitted that to fans at the supporters award night, and then he signed elsewhere. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: Maybe theres different versions, all I know is St Johnstone had an option on Tades contract and triggered it with his agent, he admitted that to fans at the supporters award night, and then he signed elsewhere. Sounds like you might be a diddy club. Just speculating obviously, but it seems like that may the issue here. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergie's no1 fan Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 If we have instigated this then it's a great move by the club. Better playing them when they have nothing to play for than playing them when they are trying to win the title. We have 3 players in the Under 21 squad so requested a call off. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Surely a player "signs" the extension which the club holds the right to, when he signs the initial contract? e.g. McGhee will have known that he's with us until the end of next season if the club so wish come the time to trigger the extension. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gav-ffc Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 We have 3 players in the Under 21 squad so requested a call off. No even a full international call up? Small time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gav-ffc Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Surely a player "signs" the extension which the club holds the right to, when he signs the initial contract? e.g. McGhee will have known that he's with us until the end of next season if the club so wish come the time to trigger the extension. Pretty much. Think this deal was put in place so that if we went down ( looked likely when he signed) we wouldn’t have to pay him off or same wages in league 1.Same deals in place with Robson pretty sure Longridge also. Soon as we are safe mathematically I see contracts being extended.Good planning from the club having all the power such as Balatoni who had a similar deal to McGhee only until December 31st. We didn’t want to keep him so he went. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergie's no1 fan Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 No even a full international call up? Small time. Best looking team in the league though [emoji8] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalkirkLad Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 2 hours ago, sergie's no1 fan said: Best looking team in the league though WOT. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 3 hours ago, sergie's no1 fan said: Best looking team in the league though Imagine bothering about how your team looks FFS! Never heard such nonsense. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergie's no1 fan Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Imagine bothering about how your team looks FFS! Never heard such nonsense. Thats all we have got to cling on to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young gun Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Bairnardo said: Imagine bothering about how your team looks FFS! Never heard such nonsense. Where’s the pic of Myles I know I’ve been wooshed but f**k it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaggerG Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 15 hours ago, AGPar said: It's nothing of the sort. These are formal terms written into a players contract to protect the club from said player buggering off for nothing at the end of the contract. Sibbald never kicked a ball in August because he wanted a straight one year deal whilst the club would only countenance a year with a years option. Falkirk won. So whilst Sibbald may well be agitating for a move again this summer, he'll automatically be under contract for 2018/19 and any club looking to take him will have to cough up a transfer fee. The option is at the discretion of the club, not the player, otherwise it is totally pointless. I believe that both McGhee and the club have an option which presumably means that he's got to stay if we want him to and we've got to keep him if he wants to stay whether we want him or not? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Believe The Hype Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 20 minutes ago, ShaggerG said: I believe that both McGhee and the club have an option which presumably means that he's got to stay if we want him to and we've got to keep him if he wants to stay whether we want him or not? That's just the same as a 2 year contract though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan-FFC Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Kind of. It provides a get out point at 1yr(should neither side be keen on taking up the option) but gives the security of a 2yr deal (should even 1 side take up the option) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaggerG Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Believe The Hype said: That's just the same as a 2 year contract though. What him down there said...probably. 9 minutes ago, Ryan-FFC said: Kind of. It provides a get out point at 1yr(should neither side be keen on taking up the option) but gives the security of a 2yr deal (should even 1 side take up the option) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Believe The Hype Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 59 minutes ago, Ryan-FFC said: Kind of. It provides a get out point at 1yr(should neither side be keen on taking up the option) but gives the security of a 2yr deal (should even 1 side take up the option) If after one year a player and a club do not want each other the contract can be terminated though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan-FFC Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 If neither exercises the additional years option then the contract is terminated. For instance if we want to take up the option on McGhee - he stays. If we don’t and he doesn’t want to exercise it either he goes for nothing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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