Gaz FFC Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, roman_bairn said: At Ibrox or Parkhead, those teams will normally hold more of the possession and consequently spend more time in our box. Hence it’s more likely that a debatable penalty decision will become subject to VAR in their favour. I also think it’s a lot more likely that decisions will go to VAR when referees are being put under pressure by intimidating audiences. VAR is being used to award penalties, not to revoke them. I've watched Falkirk and Scotland for 30+ years and have to say I feel we've both been on the receiving end of more bad decisions than good fortune. I hate losing because a ref/linesman made a shocking decision where as losing because they beat you fair and square is fine. I'd rather lose 4-0 fair and square than 1-0 from an offside goal 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roman_bairn Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 I've watched Falkirk and Scotland for 30+ years and have to say I feel we've both been on the receiving end of more bad decisions than good fortune. I hate losing because a ref/linesman made a shocking decision where as losing because they beat you fair and square is fine. I'd rather lose 4-0 fair and square than 1-0 from an offside goal You normally need a bit of good fortune to get a result at those grounds. VAR will more often remove that increasing the likelihood of a narrow defeat to a debatable penalty... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz FFC Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, roman_bairn said: You normally need a bit of good fortune to get a result at those grounds. VAR will more often remove that increasing the likelihood of a narrow defeat to a debatable penalty... I keep saying it but you arent reading it. If we lose fair and square then fine. If we lose because the home fans shout loud for a dodgy penalty then that stinks for a long time. I'm not looking to fluke a lucky win over them. I just want a fair crack at the whip 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roman_bairn Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 I keep saying it but you arent reading it. If we lose fair and square then fine. If we lose because the home fans shout loud for a dodgy penalty then that stinks for a long time. I'm not looking to fluke a lucky win over them. I just want a fair crack at the whip I am, but I think where we differ is that you believe VAR will produce the correct and fair outcome.My point is that most of the issues remain debatable but a penalty is more likely to be awarded because VAR was used. It’s also more likely to be awarded to the team in greater possession.Five penalties awarded in four World Cup ties appears to bear this out. Even then, those that went to VAR were open to opinion... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz FFC Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Just now, roman_bairn said: I am, but I think where we differ is that you believe VAR will produce the correct and fair outcome. My point is that most of the issues remain debatable but a penalty is more likely to be awarded because VAR was used. It’s also more likely to be awarded to the team in greater possession. Five penalties awarded in four World Cup ties appears to bear this out. Even then, those that went to VAR were open to opinion... I hear that but I'm basing my opinion on 31 years of Falkirk experience. If Rangers got 1 dodgy pen v us and 1 stonewall not given then i wouldnt grumble. Where i grumble is that doesn't happen. More often than not they both get terrible decisions for them and we have to put up with it VAR can only help in that respect and certainly cannot hinder us further 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 48 days until the new season starts - the length of John Toshack's time as manager of Wales. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Thank f**k its only 1 sleep until we can re-engage in wild speculation and hounding Bainsford Bairn for his location. The knowledge that a signing won't come is worse than nursing a semi all day knowing that it could. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 I am, but I think where we differ is that you believe VAR will produce the correct and fair outcome.My point is that most of the issues remain debatable but a penalty is more likely to be awarded because VAR was used. It’s also more likely to be awarded to the team in greater possession.Five penalties awarded in four World Cup ties appears to bear this out. Even then, those that went to VAR were open to opinion... VAR Is much more likely to get the correct decision than the week minded Refs in this country who buckle at the first shout from the home end. With Gaz on this, history shows your logic is flawed. As far as ruin the game I think you are somewhat over dramatising things. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 VAR is never coming to Scotland except maybe as a publicity stunt in the cup final or something. We will never have to worry about it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bainsfordbairn Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 40 minutes ago, Back Post Misses said: VAR Is much more likely to get the correct decision than the week minded Refs in this country who buckle at the first shout from the home end. This. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bainsfordbairn Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 55 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: Thank f**k its only 1 sleep until we can re-engage in wild speculation and hounding Bainsford Bairn for his location. I can save you the bother on that one Bairnado. I'll be in the stadium virtually every day next week. There's twelve separate FFC jobs in my diary between Mon-Fri, and I can think of a few others that will be added once the players are back. The majority of those are commercial / new strip related, but there may be one or two or fitba-type jobs that you'll be keen to see the results of. The club website hinted last week that there would be signings announced before the players return. We're still on course for that to happen. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 8 minutes ago, Bainsfordbairn said: I can save you the bother on that one Bairnado. I'll be in the stadium virtually every day next week. There's twelve separate FFC jobs in my diary between Mon-Fri, and I can think of a few others that will be added once the players are back. The majority of those are commercial / new strip related, but there may be one or two or fitba-type jobs that you'll be keen to see the results of. The club website hinted last week that there would be signings announced before the players return. We're still on course for that to happen. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roman_bairn Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 VAR Is much more likely to get the correct decision than the week minded Refs in this country who buckle at the first shout from the home end. With Gaz on this, history shows your logic is flawed. As far as ruin the game I think you are somewhat over dramatising things. How history can show that my logic is flawed when it’s only just been implemented is beyond me.I think we’ve had eight games of it so far. I’m happy to reserve judgement but I suspect over 64 games of multiple debatable decisions being made off the park I’ll be more convinced still that it’s a bad thing for our game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeBairn Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Where's the signings, Lebowski? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebobsboy Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Rumour we have made an offer to Gary Miller ex Partick full back now at Plymouth. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roman_bairn Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Rumour we have made an offer to Gary Miller ex Partick full back now at Plymouth. Thought Hartley said last week that he had concluded business in the defensive areas? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebobsboy Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Thats what i thought aswell. But it would certainly help the right back slot. Dont fancy Muirhead there and Kidd whilst capable is better in midfield. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeBairn Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, roman_bairn said: Thought Hartley said last week that he had concluded business in the defensive areas? If he can kick a ball with his right foot, and can run, give the boy a contract. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Yeah we need an orthodox RB/RWB. We have seen before with Tumilty how even a limited player skillwise playing in his correct position lends balance to the team. Crucial you dont have a lame duck or the whole team gets exposed down one side. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Been a while since I've watched Kidd but his best position for us was comfortably in a RWB role. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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