The Falkirk FC Thread

[Astro]

Initially, I applauded Falkirks policy of signing players just because they were good looking. It was some real 'out the box' thinking.

I for one, am deeply disappointed that it hasn't worked out.

[Steven Mill Out]

15 minutes ago, Astro said:

Initially, I applauded Falkirks policy of signing players just because they were good looking. It was some real 'out the box' thinking.

I for one, am deeply disappointed that it hasn't worked out.

You're right, they may not all be the most technically gifted but we've got some real good lookers, surely that's enough for us to avoid relegation?

[Gaz FFC]

12 hours ago, young_bairn said:

Any other Scottish league teams struggling financially 

That new mob from Govan aren't very healthy financially

[Steven Mill Out]

12 hours ago, young_bairn said:

Any other Scottish league teams struggling financially 

United supposedly going close to bust if they don't get promoted this year, would imagine Hamilton are still a bit low on funds after the Nigerian prince fraud incident as well.

[Reggie Perrin]

3 hours ago, FFCinthearea said:

It's definitely the players who are causing the problems .  They decided they didn't want to play for Houston and they've downed tools now as well because they don't like Hartley's training methods.   There was a punch up too in the dressing room after the match at Tannadice if the rumours are true.

Certain senior players are also in the huff too because they wanted to be joint managers after Houston left.  Sound familiar?  Remember Mcnamara and McCann wanted the job after Eddie May fell on his sword and then spat the dummy.  

We also have a high proportion of  egotistical, coloured boot, silly haircut Nando's eaters in the squad.  They think they've made it in the game because they're a pro footballer.  Most of them are too thick and deluded to realise that this is probably as good as it will ever get for them before their inevitable slide down to the seaside leagues.

The majority of them are not fit to wear the shirt.

 

Have to agree with most of this, would be genuinely surprised if any of them were bothered enough to indulge in fisticuffs though unless it was an argument about who gets to use the hairdryer first.

I don't think that I have ever been as thoroughly fucked off with a Falkirk team as I am with these wasters.

 

[knee jerk reaction]

Once again I find myself disagreeing with almost everyone on here! I don't think the players are not trying or have downed tools etc etc. We are in a tight league where there is very little between all the teams and it's been like that for a few years, just on Saturday Brechin got a result against United, over the last few seasons how many good results have Dumbarton got v bigger teams? Unfortunately for us we have gotten a little bit worse in all areas and that has made the difference, the keeper has cost goals that Danny Rodgers would've stopped, Leahy both set up and scored goals and is a huge miss, Grant isn't the player he was pre injury, Kerr is getting older and we haven't replaced really Vaulks, up front Austin hasn't kicked on into the player he could be potentially. Throw in the boost of confidence a winning team gets compared with a losing one and you find players like Hippolyte who thrive in a good team starting to go missing in games, you can also throw in injuries like Taiwo. This overall drop in quality in the squad has taken us from slightly better than most of the league to where we are now, I believe the players are giving 100% it's just not good enough at the moment.

[Reggie Perrin]

15 minutes ago, knee jerk reaction said:

Once again I find myself disagreeing with almost everyone on here! I don't think the players are not trying or have downed tools etc etc. We are in a tight league where there is very little between all the teams and it's been like that for a few years, just on Saturday Brechin got a result against United, over the last few seasons how many good results have Dumbarton got v bigger teams? Unfortunately for us we have gotten a little bit worse in all areas and that has made the difference, the keeper has cost goals that Danny Rodgers would've stopped, Leahy both set up and scored goals and is a huge miss, Grant isn't the player he was pre injury, Kerr is getting older and we haven't replaced really Vaulks, up front Austin hasn't kicked on into the player he could be potentially. Throw in the boost of confidence a winning team gets compared with a losing one and you find players like Hippolyte who thrive in a good team starting to go missing in games, you can also throw in injuries like Taiwo. This overall drop in quality in the squad has taken us from slightly better than most of the league to where we are now, I believe the players are giving 100% it's just not good enough at the moment.

To be fair you make some valid points but there is no way some if not most of the players are giving 100% and that is what  angers me most.

Back in the late 70's we were fairly dreadful but that  was because we had a poor standard of player, those guys were honest but limited or past their prime so no complaints.

We may not have our strongest  squad at the moment but the level of underachievement is ridiculous, we were second favourites for this league!

[ShaggerG]

29 minutes ago, knee jerk reaction said:

Once again I find myself disagreeing with almost everyone on here! I don't think the players are not trying or have downed tools etc etc. We are in a tight league where there is very little between all the teams and it's been like that for a few years, just on Saturday Brechin got a result against United, over the last few seasons how many good results have Dumbarton got v bigger teams? Unfortunately for us we have gotten a little bit worse in all areas and that has made the difference, the keeper has cost goals that Danny Rodgers would've stopped, Leahy both set up and scored goals and is a huge miss, Grant isn't the player he was pre injury, Kerr is getting older and we haven't replaced really Vaulks, up front Austin hasn't kicked on into the player he could be potentially. Throw in the boost of confidence a winning team gets compared with a losing one and you find players like Hippolyte who thrive in a good team starting to go missing in games, you can also throw in injuries like Taiwo. This overall drop in quality in the squad has taken us from slightly better than most of the league to where we are now, I believe the players are giving 100% it's just not good enough at the moment.

I generally agree with you as I do think there was plenty of endeavour on show on Saturday. Like many games this season we had more possession, shots etc but not the quality required to create enough and score goals.

There are certain players however who let their heads drop far too easily and it has an adverse affect. I'm thinking of the likes of McKee, Harris, Gallagher, Hippo, Fash & Craigen. If it's not going well they do have a tendency to hide a bit.

[AGPar]

34 minutes ago, knee jerk reaction said:

Once again I find myself disagreeing with almost everyone on here! I don't think the players are not trying or have downed tools etc etc. We are in a tight league where there is very little between all the teams and it's been like that for a few years, just on Saturday Brechin got a result against United, over the last few seasons how many good results have Dumbarton got v bigger teams? Unfortunately for us we have gotten a little bit worse in all areas and that has made the difference, the keeper has cost goals that Danny Rodgers would've stopped, Leahy both set up and scored goals and is a huge miss, Grant isn't the player he was pre injury, Kerr is getting older and we haven't replaced really Vaulks, up front Austin hasn't kicked on into the player he could be potentially. Throw in the boost of confidence a winning team gets compared with a losing one and you find players like Hippolyte who thrive in a good team starting to go missing in games, you can also throw in injuries like Taiwo. This overall drop in quality in the squad has taken us from slightly better than most of the league to where we are now, I believe the players are giving 100% it's just not good enough at the moment.

Sorry, you are naive in the extreme.

This isn't some temporary blip or collective loss of form. We have been consistently poor for the thick end of eighteen months now, last years second place finish belies the poverty and lack of ambition and entertainment displayed in so many performances. The difference then was that we were still capable of digging out a draw or the odd run of 2 or 3 consecutive wins.  That has now vanished.

Sine the start of last season, we have played twenty six league games at home. We've won eight, the last one on April 1st. We've scored nine goals in fourteen games, the same as Brechin. Only Cowdenbeath and Edinburgh City have a worse record in Scotland. It is shocking.

What was the last even decent Falkirk performance, Dundee United away in the play-off maybe? You'd be struggling to name one player who has played even close to their potential this season, far less above it. 

It's actually quite embarrassing that you are casting up Brechin and Dumbarton results to somehow legitimise our current position, it only defeats your argument and shows how low we have sunk.

 

[Young gun]

The Sibbald affair was an example of a board who don’t have much savvy.

I can’t understand what happened ,you looked as if you would be favourites for the title,in fact a lot of your fans believed the hype.

when you look back at the posts around the time Loy signed,dear God it was unbelievable 

I don’t envy your position ,we were lucky to have a board who are all behind the club,that seem to be lacking at Bairns 

 

[knee jerk reaction]

1 hour ago, AGPar said:

Sorry, you are naive in the extreme.

This isn't some temporary blip or collective loss of form. We have been consistently poor for the thick end of eighteen months now, last years second place finish belies the poverty and lack of ambition and entertainment displayed in so many performances. The difference then was that we were still capable of digging out a draw or the odd run of 2 or 3 consecutive wins.  That has now vanished.

Sine the start of last season, we have played twenty six league games at home. We've won eight, the last one on April 1st. We've scored nine goals in fourteen games, the same as Brechin. Only Cowdenbeath and Edinburgh City have a worse record in Scotland. It is shocking.

What was the last even decent Falkirk performance, Dundee United away in the play-off maybe? You'd be struggling to name one player who has played even close to their potential this season, far less above it. 

It's actually quite embarrassing that you are casting up Brechin and Dumbarton results to somehow legitimise our current position, it only defeats your argument and shows how low we have sunk.

 

you can quite easily argue we've been poor for 18 months and last season came nowhere near the season before but the league doesn't lie, if we were poor then every other team in the league were even poorer.  I'm not in anyway trying to legitimise our position, it's bad and considering our resources not acceptable, we should be doing a lot better. what I'm saying is it doesn't take a huge drop in the quality of a squad to get us in to the position we are in and this not players not trying is why we are where we are.

as for using Dumbarton as a guide to how tight this league is, would it be better if I used St Mirren who they finished level on points with last season or qots or Morton both of whom Dumbarton has been very close to over the last couple of seasons, or how about a team more our level say Raith? Raith have been in the play offs, were around 5th last xmas and ended up going down, we need a bit of quality to come in January (hopefully with taiwo and a focused sibbald as well) to turn this season around. 

Edited November 27, 2017 by knee jerk reaction

[wullie robb]

 The Board are behind the team, it's just they don't want to spend any money, Answer to this is sign some players that are decent for little money? Livingston signed Pittman from the Juniors and he would walk into any championship side easily, get out and look instead of lazy signings of player's that used to be decent but for one reason or another aren't anymore. 

Some fans moaning about the goalkeeper? Sorry but he's the only reason we get points in our 0.0 draws, when he has made mistakes it hardly mattered as we couldn't score if the posts went from one side to the other. 

FFC has a massive budget compared to Livingston, maybe that's the problem, team's with less money are prepared to look at cheaper options and are reaping the benefits with player's willing to prove themselves at a higher level. 

One thing is for sure,  we need young guys with a fire in their guts to play for FFC not prema donnas looking for an easy wage. 

[spud131]

 The Board are behind the team, it's just they don't want to spend any money, Answer to this is sign some players that are decent for little money? Livingston signed Pittman from the Juniors and he would walk into any championship side easily, get out and look instead of lazy signings of player's that used to be decent but for one reason or another aren't anymore. 
Some fans moaning about the goalkeeper? Sorry but he's the only reason we get points in our 0.0 draws, when he has made mistakes it hardly mattered as we couldn't score if the posts went from one side to the other. 
FFC has a massive budget compared to Livingston, maybe that's the problem, team's with less money are prepared to look at cheaper options and are reaping the benefits with player's willing to prove themselves at a higher level. 
One thing is for sure,  we need young guys with a fire in their guts to play for FFC not prema donnas looking for an easy wage. 

Could you imagine the outrage from our fans if we started signing players from the juniors (not saying there aren't decent players in the league, just out fans would go mental if we did sign them)!

[wullie robb]

1 minute ago, spud131 said:

Could you imagine the outrage from our fans if we started signing players from the juniors (not saying there aren't decent players in the league, just out fans would go mental if we did sign them)!

Our fans go mental, the younger one's maybe but anyone else I would hope not. 

Crunchie was playing with Camelon Juniors before taking the piss out of so called established player's. 

Better players in lower league and Juniors than half the mob I've watched this season, Murray of Hibs ex Juniors. 

But if you're not looking because we think our club are above that we're fecked. 

[Guest Back Post Misses]

Not the juniors shout? I am waiting for that one at tonight’s AGM.

[Newbornbairn]

Anybody going to periscope the AGM?

[BountyBairn]

Just now, NewBornBairn said:

Anybody going to periscope the AGM?

Please or at least some updates for us all....BPM? 

[Crawford Baptie]

Not the juniors shout? I am waiting for that one at tonight’s AGM.

Are you likely to be in a position to give us a fans perspective update tonight?

[wullie robb]

1 minute ago, Back Post Misses said:

Not the juniors shout? I am waiting for that one at tonight’s AGM.

Most of the squad we have just now wouldn't cut it in the juniors BPM. 

I watched Sibbald get his arse wiped against Sauchie juniors a few seasons back. 

[wullie robb]

3 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

I'd like to think Hartley can do enough to convince folk he's working hard and looking about for players and avoid the need for pish shouts like that

But is he? If he's no money what do you do? Feck loans. 

He needs to keep us in this league and I'm not sure that is looking likely.