CALDERON Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 The current set up makes it difficult for the club to move forward without some kind of major change. Interesting, if a little worrying. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 (edited) It's the moving ground rumours that are unsettling. If any debt on the new ground ends up being attached to the club then we should forget it as we'll be fucked for all eternity. Will the sale of Starks generate enough to pay the mortgage and the new ground? Almost certainly not. Therefore, it needs to be clear exactly how it's going to be financed. Ground sharing is a complete nightmare for gate receipts so you also need to factor in a big reduction there as well while the new stadium is being built. Edited June 29, 2017 by Michael W 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typicalrovers Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Nothing in the FFP about moving ground. Sim saying an artificial pitch will raise revenue. Can't see it. Where is there to park/ get changed etc ? Surely the cost of laying it and adapting SP to accommodate it would be far higher than the income generated?He'd be better spending time getting a team of new directors together with some hunger / business acumen and contacts / ideas to raise the club's income. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raithie Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 The thought of leaving the San Starko makes me sad 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rover94 Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 If we did go to Astro turf I am sure Alloa just let people use the dressing rooms that the teams use. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz80 Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 57 minutes ago, SuperHans said: Mario Caira has had plenty out of the club for his investment. Whatever Mario Caira has got out of the club, it's nowhere near what he has put in. A man that has always put his money into the Rovers when they have needed it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toddy Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 (edited) What would people's opinions be on the club moving out of Kirkcaldy and relocating to Glenrothes? Edited to add: Do you think our attendances would increase or decrease with a dramatic move such as this? Edited June 29, 2017 by Toddy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Quite the turn of events if Kevin McHattie buys Raith. Bit of an Anelka scenario. Right lads here's £200k. Now I'm the manager and I also want to play No.10 and have Socrates printed on the back of my top. And it has to be a Brazil top. And I want a Brazilian band, and some tidy women in those feathery headgear. And I want the stadium named after my dead cat, so that'll be the Puss Stadium. No, that doesn't sound right, let's call it the Fantastic Pussy Stadium. And I want pictures on the seats in the North and South Stand to make up giant photos of my dead cat. And I want to change our colours to red, yellow and blue like Romania. And I want anything else I want. And I want to get pished before giving any interviews to the media. And I want to sign Pavel Nedved. What do you mean he's 50?!!! Get him signed!!! We should also get a woman manager to keep our fans happy. Make it happen!!!Those are my initial demands when I win the lottery.Basically, I'll be Romanov on acid. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 What would people's opinions be on the club moving out of Kirkcaldy and relocating to Glenrothes? Edited to add: Do you think our attendances would increase or decrease with a dramatic move such as this Are you a Fife Council member? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pub car king Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 (edited) In an ideal world the club would build a new ground in a better location that has no end of facilities that will generate income year round. Selling our own ground then trying to put that together is not the way forward, We are effectively making ourselves homeless and then relying on f**k knows who to get this done. That's before the likes of the council get involved and f**k things up even more or find the land or consider things like public transport. Realistically if the club were to move its going to take about 5 to 10 years to organise and get the funds in place. If i won the lottery I wouldn't buy the rovers as clubs are a money pit and hugely inefficient at this level but I would buy Starks park so they always had somewhere to play. Edited June 29, 2017 by pub car king Fucktardedness 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toddy Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 5 minutes ago, Scary Bear said: Are you a Fife Council member? No not at all. Just with the rumour of Sim looking to build a new stadium, where would you put one in Kirkcaldy? The main reason for asking though is our attendances stay the same year on year with a group of regulars and I'm just thinking outside the box on trying to increase attendances. Trying to gauge people's opinion on whether it would be a possibility or not that's all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperHans Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Nothing in the FFP about moving ground. Sim saying an artificial pitch will raise revenue. Can't see it. Where is there to park/ get changed etc ? Surely the cost of laying it and adapting SP to accommodate it would be far higher than the income generated? Im sure it's about half a million for 5 years. The cost for maintaining the pitch per season with the drainage problems etc are between £60-£70k I've heard (assuming everything's included in that cost wages etc). New lighting would need installed, new staff to manage it for public use, parking issues as previously mentioned and the fact that there are already 3 perfectly good astro pitches in KDY, pitches and other facilities in Michael Woods as well as Burntisland and others around Fife. The thought of leaving the San Starko makes me sad [emoji20] Why? Our facilities are pre-historic. Stadium is too big and falling to bits, hospitality facilities are shocking, no atmosphere unless there's more than 4,000 fans, no room for growth in surrounding area and an embarrassing railway stand with no seats in it. Michael W raises a good point regarding moving stadium, but let's look at positive outcomes from clubs that have done the same thing. Hamilton and Falkirk have excellent and modern facilities that generate income on their own before a ball is even kicked. Starks Park is a single purpose stadium that sits empty for the majority of the year. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donny86 Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Doesn't really say much that hasn't been discussed on here, seems the press are as in the dark as we are 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baillieinleeds Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 What would people's opinions be on the club moving out of Kirkcaldy and relocating to Glenrothes? Edited to add: Do you think our attendances would increase or decrease with a dramatic move such as this? If they decide to take the club out of Kirkcaldy, that'll be it for me. I'm Kirkcaldy born and bred and Raith Rovers are a Kirkcaldy club. I've used the word 3 times. Slate me If you want for loving my town. But we MUST stay here. Plus Glenrothes is an utter cowp. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baillieinleeds Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 No not at all. Just with the rumour of Sim looking to build a new stadium, where would you put one in Kirkcaldy? The land in between the Gallatown and the Boreland. Perfect for commuting and easy links to the motorway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 No not at all. Just with the rumour of Sim looking to build a new stadium, where would you put one in Kirkcaldy? The main reason for asking though is our attendances stay the same year on year with a group of regulars and I'm just thinking outside the box on trying to increase attendances. Trying to gauge people's opinion on whether it would be a possibility or not that's all. There'll be a Fife Council Plan somewhere which will note which areas of land near Kirkcaldy are marked for development and what kinds of development they are marked for. There was a plan, about 15 years ago, to develop an area between Glenrothes and Kirkcaldy into a leisure park. That would be the place to put the stadium. But that's all a bit legoland. Apart from where the stadium is currently sited, the only sizeable bit of brownfield land I can think of is the bit off Victoria Road by the Lino factory. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toddy Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 13 minutes ago, baillieinleeds said: The land in between the Gallatown and the Boreland. Perfect for commuting and easy links to the motorway. Is that where the playing fields are next to the Randolph industrial estate? The land across from the playing fields was owned by the David Murray group ( as far as I was aware ) and isn't that bring turned into houses now? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 50 minutes ago, Toddy said: What would people's opinions be on the club moving out of Kirkcaldy and relocating to Glenrothes? Edited to add: Do you think our attendances would increase or decrease with a dramatic move such as this? We're a Kirkcaldy club, our history, our identity is there. We'd be as well moving the club to the dark side of the moon as moving to another town. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nairney Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Can't say I'm keen on a stadium move either... having endured visits to several soulless breeze block places in the late nineties, early noughties, when it was all the rage to have one. However, IF it was done in a similar way to Falkirk's redevelopment (would a portion of external funding from Fife Council / Sports and Leisure Trust be realistic? I'm not sure) it would certainly be a sensible way of helping to restructure our business model to help generate potential addition revenue and placing ourselves at the heart of community events and facilities. Is this realistic or achieveable? I don't know. My concern would be that we may have missed the boat, financially, for funding this type of thing - both in terms of the property market and external funding. Falkirk probably got their timing spot on, for both - selling their ground at the right time pigging backing onto major funding / development in the area. I don't know what the answer is. However, I expect that at some point in the future we will have to move elsewhere to survive - repair and maintenance vs income. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kebab Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Barry Smith contemplating the consequences of his two year deal!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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