RRFC1989 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Anyone else noticed how, in the last couple of games Barr has been drifting in field a lot? Against both Forfar and East Fife there seemed to be a lot of occasions where the ball goes out to Thomson and Barr was in the centre circle, with no one making a run in front of the full back. I'm not sure if it's a deliberate tactic - to try and have the extra man in the middle to help out there, or if it's part of Bobby's "act like I'm involved but secretly don't want the ball" routine. If it's the former, I don't think it'll work very well, as he'll never put the graft in to get back out wide to cover when we don't have the ball, and not using Thomson as the out ball down the wing seems weird given how consistent that route is. A few times he did start to make the peeling run for Thomson to play him in, others both he and Buchanan ended up making the same run - but Buchanan was actually further out wide than Barr. Generally speaking Barr was a passenger on Saturday, but I'm not sure his positioning, if deliberate is going to help. Said this to my mate during the game on Saturday. I feel he works best hugging the touch line all game and using his pace to get by his man.I never noticed smith telling him to go wide which would suggest he was happy with him playing more central. I noticed McHattie getting forward a lot so i can only expect thats where he was looking to get the width from. Funnily enough though, the 2 occasions he did go wide, he caused them problems. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSDR 88 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 By all accounts, Barr has admitted to having a mare on Saturday. Refer to his Instagram, a picture of his wee laddie at San Starko. I like Barr, but I agree that he has to stick to being out wide when looking to receive the ball. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ro Sham Bo Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 3 hours ago, renton said: Anyone else noticed how, in the last couple of games Barr has been drifting in field a lot? Against both Forfar and East Fife there seemed to be a lot of occasions where the ball goes out to Thomson and Barr was in the centre circle, with no one making a run in front of the full back. I'm not sure if it's a deliberate tactic - to try and have the extra man in the middle to help out there, or if it's part of Bobby's "act like I'm involved but secretly don't want the ball" routine. If it's the former, I don't think it'll work very well, as he'll never put the graft in to get back out wide to cover when we don't have the ball, and not using Thomson as the out ball down the wing seems weird given how consistent that route is. A few times he did start to make the peeling run for Thomson to play him in, others both he and Buchanan ended up making the same run - but Buchanan was actually further out wide than Barr. Generally speaking Barr was a passenger on Saturday, but I'm not sure his positioning, if deliberate is going to help. Also noticed this on Saturday. I assumed it was a deliberate tactic by Smith, although considering Barr had loads of joy against the East Fife fullbacks at Methil it was a bit frustrating. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Just now, Ro Sham Bo said: Also noticed this on Saturday. I assumed it was a deliberate tactic by Smith, although considering Barr had loads of joy against the East Fife fullbacks at Methil it was a bit frustrating. Yeah, and with our injury worries maybe the only thing he could do if he wanted to put an extra man in the middle is have Barr try and split his time, but it really didn't work. Certainly for the Ayr game we should be looking at a midfield 3 of Matthews, Robertson and Herron and one out of two of Buchanan or Spence up top with Barr and Vaughan behind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pub car king Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 The ayr game is the only one that matters here the other 2 can get tae f**k. That said good chances to experiment and bring in fringe players. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Algorithms Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 42 minutes ago, pub car king said: The ayr game is the only one that matters here the other 2 can get tae f**k. That said good chances to experiment and bring in fringe players. Ayr is the most important. Peterhead after that. A good cup run could mean funds opening up for a new signing if we get either of the old firm/edinburgh teams/aberdeen away. The Dumbarton game can lurch the 50 meters or so from the side of the pitch and into the sea. A completely pointless trophy, which has only caused grief this season barring our win against Saints. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancient Mariner Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 10 hours ago, Wardy said: Buchanan is usually rested for Challenge cup games. Pretty sure he wasn’t in the squad against St.Mirren.. maybe should be rested on the bench for a few more games, needs something to happen cause it's not happening on the park 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 The ayr game is the only one that matters here the other 2 can get tae f**k. That said good chances to experiment and bring in fringe players. Getting a semi is nice. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastie Russell Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Hall of Fame, think it’s run it’s course. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers1992/1993 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Hall of Fame, think it’s run it’s course. How? I thought that was brilliant tonight.. Kammy and Ray Parlour were outstanding 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastie Russell Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 2 minutes ago, Rovers1992/1993 said: How? I thought that was brilliant tonight.. Kammy and Ray Parlour were outstanding Parlour was surprisingly good Not enough rovers stories from the ex players IMHO . who gets inducted next year ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 1 minute ago, Beastie Russell said: Parlour was surprisingly good Not enough rovers stories from the ex players IMHO . who gets inducted next year ? I was a wee bit disappointed for Tade, coming all the way from Israel to be a spectator. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 If Kammy persuades Alan Brazil to attend, I hope they don't make him appear from the trapdoor, John Greer would have to throw a rug over him if he got stuck. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ro Sham Bo Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Parlour was surprisingly good Not enough rovers stories from the ex players IMHO . who gets inducted next year ? I think you're probably right. It's a great night but it is reaching the point where all of the genuine contenders have been inducted. They could maybe find another half a dozen worthy candidates next year but they are in danger of devaluing the award. Time to maybe it hold it once every 2-3 years now possibly.Parlour in particular was very good but I would also have liked to have heard from a few more of the former players there. The level of interaction with them has dropped off over the last year or two I feel. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 The story so far. Quote 2012- Jim Baxter, Bobby Reid, Andy Harrow, Tom Houston, Willie Penman, Willie McNaught, Gordon Dalziel, Iain Davidson, Jimmy Nicholl. 2013- Brian Cooper, Willie Polland, Laurie Ellis, Allan Forsyth, Andy Young, Colin Cameron, Johnny Urquhart, Gordon Wallace, Alex James. 2014- The 1994 Coca Cola Cup winning team, Ally Gourlay. 2015- Andy Leigh, David McGurn, Frank Connor, Joe Baker, Turnbull Hutton, John McStay, Colin Harris. 2016- Jimmy Todd, Jimmy Scott, Donald Urquart, Murray McDermott, Antonio Calderon, Marvin Andrews, Peter Heatherston, Stevie Crawford. 2017- Alex Penman, Craig Brewster, Paul Sweeney, Jackie Stewart, John McLynn, George McLay, Shaun Dennis. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbykdy Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, Zen Archer said: The story so far. Seems unusual that on the one hand you had the whole '94 cup winning team inducted then some of the players, Dalziel, Crawford, Cameron, Dennis inducted separately but not the likes of Scott Thomson who was the hero in the penalty shoot out and pretty much won us the tie single handedly in Iceland. Edited November 7, 2017 by bobbykdy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specky Ginger Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Hall of Fame, think it’s run it’s course. Still plenty of worthy potential inductees. Off the top of my head - Jimmy McEwan, Harry Colville, Chris Candlish and David Morris. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 9 minutes ago, Specky Ginger said: Still plenty of worthy potential inductees. Off the top of my head - Jimmy McEwan, Harry Colville, Chris Candlish and David Morris. Norman Heywood, 37/38 record breaking team. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beachbum Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 This man. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostZapper Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 On 05/11/2017 at 20:41, WSDR 88 said: Fair play to anyone who makes the journey to all 3 away games in the next week, some effort. I’ll be going to Peterhead since it’s a new ground for me to have ticked off the list. Hoping for W against Dumbarton in the quarterfinal and would love to get to a final again. But would definitely play a lot of the 20’s players to ensure we have the best team available to Ayr away on the Tuesday. Im doing the 3.... along with the Scotland game up in Aberdeen this Thursday as well! I draw the line however at Stranraer away on a Tuesday night!!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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