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I absolutely hate it when we play without proper fullbacks at fullback. I know it can't be helped, but it's a deceptively specialist position. Guys who are filling in rarely strike the balance between defence and attack.

Hopefully this season we've got enough up front for the guys to create and finish their own chances, but it totally killed us last season, and the season before that.

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Worrying stuff, as well as we've started I think we'd all admit this league could end up being decided by injuries. With our two goalies, captain/best CB and only left back now out, all for a couple of months yet, it isn't looking great.

McKay breezed the cup game against Cowden but Smith has been very reluctant to use him since taking him off at Alloa, even playing Robertson at CB on Saturday instead of him. I think we might see a bit more of that sort of thing while we wait for players to come back. If we have a full-back in the u20's, it's time to try him out.

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We certainly can't continue with Robertson at CB. He did well considering the circumstances but was badly caught under the ball a couple of times and lacks the defensive know-how needed in that position.

Get McKay/Valentine/whoever is the most appropriate and competent defender out of the kids and throw them in. This is how they learn and progress - and it can also act as a spur for others that they can get their chance in the 1st team. He'll have experience around him to help and we're also going to have most of the possession/pressure so it's not a bad game to do it.

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1 hour ago, Scary Bear said:

 


Murray doesn't look particularly comfortable at left back. A lot of Ayr's attacks came down his side.

I've not seen McKay at CB. Is he any good? I would have thought Davo and Murray at CB. I thought Murray was a CB.

 

I think Murray's performance was more down to his opponent (McDaid) who looked rapid.

We needed an experienced player at the back against Shankland and Moffet, and Robertson fitted the bill. It affected our midfield, but putting McKay in there would have been a massive risk.

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Well, the simple choice is that we play McKay or move Murray into the middle and play either the dev squad LB or play someone out of position. I think my preference would be to play McKay and leave Murray. 

LB is particularly hard to fill with an out of position player as most are right-footed. It can be done and you do get right-footed LBs, but if an unfamiliar player is put under pressure with the ball on his weaker foot, that's asking for trouble. 

Bit of a nightmare, this. If Thomson/Davidson get injured or suspended, we're screwed. 

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We may be looking at a combo of Thomson, Murray, Davo and McKay, though in what permutation who knows.

McKay played RB in pre-season, Murray and Thomson can play anywhere across the back four, Davo is CB or RB at a push.

The only other obvious option for a back 4 (perhaps the better one) is to play Ross Matthews at RB and slide Thomson to CB or LB.

Could potentially go 3 at the back with Thomson, Davo and Murray. Flood the midfield with Matthews or/and Robertson sitting in and Barr and Herron pushing on.

Which ever way it could prove to be a tough 2 months.....or who knows it might be a revelation.:unsure2:

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1 hour ago, Scottydog said:

We may be looking at a combo of Thomson, Murray, Davo and McKay, though in what permutation who knows.

McKay played RB in pre-season, Murray and Thomson can play anywhere across the back four, Davo is CB or RB at a push.

The only other obvious option for a back 4 (perhaps the better one) is to play Ross Matthews at RB and slide Thomson to CB or LB.

Could potentially go 3 at the back with Thomson, Davo and Murray. Flood the midfield with Matthews or/and Robertson sitting in and Barr and Herron pushing on.

Which ever way it could prove to be a tough 2 months.....or who knows it might be a revelation.:unsure2:

All of those are options but in situations like this, I always think it's best to disrupt the shape and lineup of the team as little as possible.

McKay straight swap with Bene for me. At a push, Murray to CB to replace Bene and Valentine at LB but pretty sure he's only 16/17 probably a bit soon for him.

Would leave Thomson, Matthews, Robertson etc in their natural positions, no point disrupting other areas of the pitch.

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All of those are options but in situations like this, I always think it's best to disrupt the shape and lineup of the team as little as possible.
McKay straight swap with Bene for me. At a push, Murray to CB to replace Bene and Valentine at LB but pretty sure he's only 16/17 probably a bit soon for him.
Would leave Thomson, Matthews, Robertson etc in their natural positions, no point disrupting other areas of the pitch.

Bringing in valentine at such an early age may be a bit too much, nothing to say he wouldn't be alright but best option has to be Thompson, McKay, Davo and Murray
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53 minutes ago, pub car king said:

At the end of the day we need to blood youngsters at some point. It's not ideal but there simply isn't any other option. Luckily the forwards are scoring for fun.

 

4 hours ago, Jack Rae2 said:


Bringing in valentine at such an early age may be a bit too much, nothing to say he wouldn't be alright but best option has to be Thompson, McKay, Davo and Murray

Pretty sure @Zen Archer said the same thing preseason. Valentine is one of numerous players with talent, but it might be a bit soon for him. 

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From the little I've seen of him so far McKay looks raw and nervous on the ball. If he gets his chance, hopefully he grows in confidence and does a job for us.

Murray struggled at Alloa (possibly due to the narrow 3 man midfield) and against Ayr at LB. I feel for him as he's playing out of position to help the team.

Agree with most that Davo had a great game on Saturday and long may that type of form continue.

I don't see Robertson as an option at CB, mainly because we need him in CM.

Keeper worries me. Seems to communicate well but has flapped a few times and I'd love to see Lennox back ASAP.

Whatever we do defensively is going to be far from ideal and we're just gonna have to piss with the defensive cock we have. Sadly it's looking a bit like a baldy half incher at the moment.

Agree with everyone else who says we're strong in attacking areas, and we may need them to kick on even more to help us through the defensive situation.

Spence hasn't been scoring a great deal but he occupies defenders, makes unselfish runs creating space for others, and retains possession well.

Buchanan looks to have been playing through a wee niggle but is looking sharp again and is a proven scorer. I don't see that changing.

Barr has been great the last couple of weeks and I don't need to say anything about Vaughan.

Osei looks like he needs someone to remote control him as he appears lost when he's on the park. I'd like to see Court ahead of him but I wonder if Zanatta will jump ahead of both now?

Winning the east development league is a good achievement but the step up in standard / physicality from u/20 to first team is huge and sadly it may be too big a jump for the majority.

Great start so far and we just have to believe in the manager and squad to get us through a hard period.

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