Rovers1992/1993 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 If Rovers fans wouldn't want Hartley then I'm interested to know the standard of manager you expect. Some people think we should look down the leagues and hope we find another McKinnon without realising McKinnon was utter guff the first 6 months he was here. He then got heavily backed in the January window and got lucky when a player of Aidan Connolly's calibre became available. I reckon Ryan Hardie would have always came to us regardless of McKinnon being here with our (unfortunate) connection with them. After all he came back when Gary Locke was here as well. McKinnon then went to Dundee United, got backed quite a bit by Steven Thomson, and has been pretty mediocre looking in from the outside. There aren't any potential gems in the lower league at the minute from what I can see anyway. We shouldn't have snubbed Jack Ross last summer. Paul Hartley knows this league well. He'll have plenty of contacts. I reckon he would also be interested in us as well. We're a right fit for him to get him back in to a full-time club to put himself back out there for next season again. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers1992/1993 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 If we are relegated we might have to look at a manager of Hartley's standard but hopefully it won't come to that. If we get relegated, we can forget about Hartley. Not a hope in hell he'll be dropping back down to League 1. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 (edited) 9 hours ago, Raith Against The Machine said: The general ignorance of the rules in Scotland's professional game is as baffling as it is infuriating. Edit: That sounds like a dig against some of the previous posters, but it isn't. I mean things like Handling not knowing he can't possibly play, Locke thinking he could recall Vaughan, and (worst of all) SPFL board member Eric Drysdale not knowing the rules regarding loans and/or goalkeepers. Those are just three examples from this season, and just from one club. I don't think it'd take a huge amount of digging to find numerous other examples. It took me less than two minutes to dig out that rule about loan players and parent clubs, on Google. It's inexcusable ineptitude from "professionals". Most players have no reason to know what administrative rules are. To be fair its not their job. They rely on soneone else to keep them right and cant be expected to know rule changes especially. Handling probably remembers the Booth incident and thinks he can do the same. Managers are a mixed bag. Some make a point of researching the rules but generally will also rely on club admin to keep them right. In both cases its not the lack of knowledge in itself that is the issue, its giving interviews where they dont just say "I dont know, I will need to check what is possible" instead of peddling wrong info. Edited April 18, 2017 by Skyline Drifter 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers1992/1993 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Most players have no reason to know what administrative rules are. To be fair its not their job. They rely on soneone else to keep them right and cant be expected to know rule changes especially. Handling probably remembers the Booth incident and thinks he can do the same. Managers are a mixed bag. Some make a point of researching the rules but generally will also rely on club admin to keep them right. In both cases its not the lack of knowledge in itself that is the issue, its giving interviews where they dont just say "I dont know, I will need to check what is possible" instead of peddling wrong info. I take it With Hibs knowing the league was pretty much theirs anyway when they sent Handling our way, there is nothing they could have put in the contract to allow him to play against Hibs? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baillieinleeds Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 He hasn't, yet. I still think the board will offer him a contract if he keeps us up. The board will want to keep the fans sweet in the summer. The board knows that the fans were all wanting Yogi in, on February. If he keeps us up, he's done exactly what the fans wanted him here to do. Therefore the board will think the fans will still want him going forward. They will offer him a contract hoping he accepts in order to get those season tickets shifted for next season. This is something I'd like to see happen, I'd like to think the board would want to keep him IF we stay up. He didn't have a transfer window to work with. So has to make do with the players we have. Let's see what he does with his own players. See who he will offload and bring in that'll strengthen several areas we seriously struggle in. If he decides to leave then Hartley should be a consideration, just don't bring Wighton with you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poet of the Macabre Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Yogi won't be at Starks next season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baillieinleeds Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Yogi won't be at Starks next season. ....and!! If he does leave then so be it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 43 minutes ago, Rovers1992/1993 said: I take it With Hibs knowing the league was pretty much theirs anyway when they sent Handling our way, there is nothing they could have put in the contract to allow him to play against Hibs? Nothing at all. RATM has already quoted the rules. It's not allowed whether both parties and the player wanted it to happen or not. You can't over-ride the League rules with a contract term. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black and White Tragic Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 If Rovers fans wouldn't want Hartley then I'm interested to know the standard of manager you expect. They're holding out for Guardiola slipping up and getting booted to be fair. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
da_no_1 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Martin Nelson said: If we are relegated we might have to look at a manager of Hartley's standard but hopefully it won't come to that. If you get relegated the only Hartley you'll be getting is the c**t in the Yellow Pages advert. Edited April 18, 2017 by da_no_1 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invocr Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 3 hours ago, Skyline Drifter said: Most players have no reason to know what administrative rules are. To be fair its not their job. True. Their job is to play football and they should know those rules but I suspect the majority of them don't know much about the laws of the game... :-D 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALDERON Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Hartely has done far far more than Mckinnon did before he came to us. Far more. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roverthemoon Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 1 hour ago, da_no_1 said: If you get relegated the only Hartley you'll be getting is the c**t in the Yellow Pages advert. Another Pars fan (fly) fishing 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roverthemoon Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 I think I'd take Hartley over Hughes to be honest. If we are in League one then it's a moot point as we will have neither, 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Sandy Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 (edited) Debt Dodgers TOTALLY obsessed with every thing Raith, did the schools in Dunfermline not go back yesterday? Edited April 18, 2017 by Wee Sandy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raith_Rasta Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Yo Yo Yo to Dundee Mixu to Raith [emoji140] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Algorithms Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Yogi won't be at Starks next season. Not asking for names, but if you've got a source how well connected are they? Wouldn't surprise me if you're right. If we stay up, I think it'd be an excellent move to get Hartley in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
da_no_1 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 52 minutes ago, roverthemoon said: Another Pars fan (fly) fishing Nice. My point (kinda) is that it seems to be a bit strange that there's a a fair bit of negativity towards a relatively successful young manager & his chance of being appointed as your next manager if Hughes goes. A bit strange from the outside looking in. Would be a great appointment for Raith. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
da_no_1 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 32 minutes ago, Wee Sandy said: Debt Dodgers TOTALLY obsessed with every thing Raith, did the schools in Dunfermline not go back yesterday? Football forum chump. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ro Sham Bo Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 1 hour ago, da_no_1 said: Nice. My point (kinda) is that it seems to be a bit strange that there's a a fair bit of negativity towards a relatively successful young manager & his chance of being appointed as your next manager if Hughes goes. A bit strange from the outside looking in. Would be a great appointment for Raith. To be fair most of the negativity has come from myself, which is pretty much par for the course (excuse the pun). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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