LIVIFOREVER Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Just now, Cptn Hooch said: I wasn't saying he is still a striker but he still carries a goal threat like mcpake did...I see your point about not having another recognised striker as such but we have plenty of goal threats in the team. Absolutely, and i'd have him on from the start with Mullin on the other wing, Robinson in the middle playing in the hole behind Miller and Hardie. But a plan B of throwing on another striker rather than switching a player from the wing up front would be a good option too. I don't think Rafa has scored a goal at home this season yet, hopefully he breaks his duck in the play offs, though if he scores another goal away from home that would be great too, the one in the cup against Falkirk was superb (little back heeler as he was leaping through the air), so was his goal against Hibs ( goal of the season contender). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 (edited) What is Hopkin's contract situation? Edited April 29, 2018 by btb 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLIS Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 22 minutes ago, btb said: What is Hopkin's contract situation? Out of contract in the summer AFAIK. But we're signing players up onto longer deals which would suggest he'll sign once we know what league we're in 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogieLivi Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Out of contract in the summer AFAIK. But we're signing players up onto longer deals which would suggest he'll sign once we know what league we're in I can see Morton offering him a deal.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLIS Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, LogieLivi said: I can see Morton offering him a deal.... So can I. He apparently owns shares in Morton too - here's hoping the fans backing yesterday shows him where his home is. I think he wants to see through the project with us at least and go from then. He could do a lot better than Morton at very least 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cptn Hooch Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 So can I. He apparently owns shares in Morton too - here's hoping the fans backing yesterday shows him where his home is. I think he wants to see through the project with us at least and go from then. He could do a lot better than Morton at very least The way he spoke on alba at half time of the united game he likes being at Livi and sees us as a great platform to move onto a bigger team...I don't see Morton as a huge step up from us tbh... especially if we go up. Think he's got his sights on England...he seems a pretty ambitious guy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, LIVIFOREVER said: Ohright, thought because they were already Livi players we could have them playing for us at any time, usually there is the option to bring them back from a loan spell but seeing as their loan deal is over I didn't think it would be a problem, You cant change teams at first team level after 31 March. Neither Hamilton mor Mackin can play for Livi this season regardless of how many clubs they have already played for. Edited April 29, 2018 by Skyline Drifter 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLIS Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Skyline Drifter said: You cant change teams at first team level after 31 March. Neither Hamilton mor Mackin can plsy for Livi this season regardless of how many ckubs they have already played for. Would Mackin not count as first team given he played the entire first half of the season for us? Edited April 29, 2018 by ATLIS 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 9 hours ago, LogieLivi said: Nah a player can only play for 2 clubs during one season. Jack has been at Penicuick and Berwick Rangers this season. Also his loan deal won't run out until after the playoffs. ETA - That's why Tony Watt has not been able to sign for another club since January as he has already played for 2 clubs this season before being released. The two club rule doesnt apply below spfl level. Penicuik wont count. But you are right, he still cant come back. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, ATLIS said: Would Mackin not count as first team given he played the entire first half of the season for us? Mackin is on a standard loan to Brechin (window to window). That lasts to June 9th when the window opens. You cannot recall a standard loan early except with special permission from the SPFL Board and you cannot do it at all under any circumstances after 31 March (well you can but the player isnt allowed to play 1st team for the parent club on early return - Joe Thomson's loan at you 1st half of the season was cancelled but when he went back to Celtic he was banned from 1st team involvement until the window opened on January 1st). You are not allowed to play Mackin or Hamilton in the playoffs. Period. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIVIFOREVER Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Bummer, wonder if big Hartson would be up for it if we needed him. or Kachloul for a cameo appearance if we get to the final and play Dundee. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 16 hours ago, ATLIS said: Out of contract in the summer AFAIK. But we're signing players up onto longer deals which would suggest he'll sign once we know what league we're in Yeah that's where I was going - will he stay if you're not promoted (if the Morten job is still available)? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thruthenight Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 (edited) I'd be really surprised if he went to Morton, it's a sideways step at this point. If a Premiership club or a job down south came calling then I wouldn't br surprised, but jumping to Morton where repeating what he'd done this season would be about the best that he could hope for isn't really the best move for an ambitious young manager. Edited April 30, 2018 by thruthenight 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 13 minutes ago, thruthenight said: I'd be really surprised if he went to Morton, it's a sideways step at this point. If a Premiership club or a job down south came calling then I wouldn't br surprised, but jumping to Morton where repeating what he'd done this season would be about the best that he could hope for isn't really the best move for an ambitious young manager. Relatively inexperienced yes, but young no. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madton Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 6 hours ago, thruthenight said: I'd be really surprised if he went to Morton, it's a sideways step at this point. If a Premiership club or a job down south came calling then I wouldn't br surprised, but jumping to Morton where repeating what he'd done this season would be about the best that he could hope for isn't really the best move for an ambitious young manager. If you don't go up, i think there's a good chance he will be back at Cappielow next season. He has done wonders this season for you boys, but repeating that with a small budget will be extremely difficult. He would have a considerably higher budget with us i suspect and has an obvious affection for the club having played for us and been involved with the youth academy. Think he is our 3rd largest shareholder too. and think i read somewhere that he still stays locally. Would imagine a contract offer from us would be a good bit more and a longer contract length as well. A difficult decision if he is faced with it, but i personally think if we show that we really want him and give him an attractive budget, he would take it. Time will tell i guess. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIVIFOREVER Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 It would be a bigger budget but still a sideways step to another Championship club that would likely be no better than what he's achieved this season with us. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snooky Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 3 hours ago, madton said: If you don't go up, i think there's a good chance he will be back at Cappielow next season. He has done wonders this season for you boys, but repeating that with a small budget will be extremely difficult. He would have a considerably higher budget with us i suspect and has an obvious affection for the club having played for us and been involved with the youth academy. Think he is our 3rd largest shareholder too. and think i read somewhere that he still stays locally. Would imagine a contract offer from us would be a good bit more and a longer contract length as well. A difficult decision if he is faced with it, but i personally think if we show that we really want him and give him an attractive budget, he would take it. Time will tell i guess. I can see that is a possibility. I would be surprised if a team from a bigger league doesn’t take a chance on him though. Would love to keep him next season. It expect that will only happen if we go up (and even then he might get a better move). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madton Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 1 hour ago, LIVIFOREVER said: It would be a bigger budget but still a sideways step to another Championship club that would likely be no better than what he's achieved this season with us. Agreed, but I'm sure most of us would take a sideways step if we were to be paid more, given greater security in our jobs ( one thing Morton do in general is give managers a good few years- Duffy, Moore, McInally etc), work closer to home and work for the team you played for and supported growing up! I might be completely wrong on that, or we might not even be interested. Its all a guessing game for now! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mpire Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Hoppy is worth more than a move to Morton - I still think he'll go post-play-offs but it will be to down south (league 1 maybe), SPL or maybe Dundee Utd 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 On 4/30/2018 at 17:38, madton said: Think he is our 3rd largest shareholder too. Didn't know this at all. Who's the 2nd largest shareholder? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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