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2010? I was sure this was released a lot earlier!

A categorical no, I'm afraid.

With thanks to the Hibs Historical Trust, from the Hibs Trophy room... The Edinburgh Cup and 2nd XI cup The City Cup is definitely NOT the original 2nd XI trophy, which, as HJ correctly assumed, was awarded outright for their 3rd win.

Oops! That nose-thumb was actually a reference to the West of Scotland FA which existed between 1877 and 1879! However this could also be viewed as Junior association and a direct forerunner to the first SJFA in 1880.

IIRC it was late 80s, I kept records at the time but they're in a box upstairs! EDIT! Just looked there coz it was bothering me, it was 1986-1988

In the 19th C, Junior clubs were generally those that weren't members of the SFA. The ill-fated formation of a SJFA in 1880 was regarded in the press as a nose-thumb at the SFA as they had banned clubs without a ground from being members. This was colloquially called the Public Park FA. The County FAs had high memberships but a lot of the clubs could be viewed as being junior in status.

There were a couple of 44 match seasons (late 80s?) and they weren't popular. The split is a compromise for having a 12 team division.

A distinct probability although I haven't come across any references to it being won outright. Perhaps a request to Hibs is in order...

Possibly. Hibs are reported as winners in 1878 (so far I haven't uncovered any results for this season) and the competition stuttered to an end in 1899, only two clubs competed for it in the last two editions in 1897 and 1899.

My post was concerning all the wealthy who bypass us plebs, royalty or not.

People with money getting treatment quicker than the rest of us makes my blood boil...

I'm currently reviewing the site's content (the Scottish Combination and Scottish Union leagues have had a few adjustments and will be posted soon) but I'll adjust the City Cup winner's list ASAP. It's likely it's a copy and paste error.

Usual pish... the women are great at everything... the men àre absolute wallopers.

***EDIT*** Since posting the work on Saturday, the matches still needing to be found has been whittled down to NINE. 1897-98 Inv Citadel v Inv Celtic [date, 2-2] Inv Citadel v Inv Thistle [date, 2-0] 1914-15 Clach v Inv Thistle [date, 3-1] Caley v Inv Thistle [21 Nov, score] 1923-24 Caley v Inv Thistle [date, WL] Inv Thistle v Caley [28 Apr, LW] 1926-27 Caley v Clach [date, 2-1] 1947-48 RAF v Deveronvale [early Sep, 1-2] 1950-51 Rothes v Clach [date poss 14-18 May, 1-1] Sfha.org.uk/highlandleagueresults.htm

Here is the most up to date NEEDS LIST. I will be posting the complete Scottish Highland League, Dates, Results and Final Tables 1893-2024 this evening on the SFHA site and am needing verification on only 19 matches out of almost 30,000 results. Sfha.org.uk/highlandleagueresults.htm Sfha.org.uk/highlandleagueresults.htm 1897-98 Inv Citadel v Inv Celtic [date, 2-2] Inv Citadel v Inv Thistle [date, 2-0] 1914-15 Clach v Inv Thistle [date, 3-1] Caley v Inv Thistle [21 Nov, score] 1920-21 Forres v Elgin [due on 30 Apr, score if played] Caley v Elgin [date, WL] Caley v Forres [16 Apr, DD] 1921-22 Forres v Inv Citadel [date, poss 4-4] 1923-24 Caley v Inv Thistle [date, WL] Inv Thistle v Caley [28 Apr, LW] 1926-27 Caley v Clach [date, 2-1] 1947-48 Deveronvale v RAF [late Aug/early Sep, 6-1] RAF v Elgin [late Aug/early Sep, 0-10] 1950-51 Rothes v Clach [date May, 1-1] 1962-63 Deveronvale v Peterhead [date, 2-2] 1965-66 Nairn v Deveronvale [date, 2-1] 1966-67 Nairn v Clach [date, 1-2] 1967-68 Nairn v Brora [May, 2-1] Lossiemouth v Peterhead [May, 4-4]