Casual Bystander

I think I've always had a "soft spot" for the local town. That doesn't normally stay with me once I move though. When I grew up my local team was Rangers and I was sure as hell not going to support them (or the other half for that matter). I have "supported" Aberdeen and Hibs in my time, and by that I mean they were the closest team and paid to watch them. I lived near Pollok stadium for maybe a year or so and I like the ridiculous clumsiness of the juniors, so I sort of have them as my team these days.

In hindsight it's amazing how well Gretna did by buying players from the higher leagues then winning the league they are in, while having a small fan base, a very poor ground, no merchandising or television rights and very few (if any) supporters in the mainstream media. Compare that to another team trying to do the same bottom to top league transition.

For my sins, it was the Daily Record. I appreciate how stupid it is to lift figures from those cockweasels, so it's probably wrong. They did leave creditors with millions of debt though so the whole "it's a fairly tale" is bullshit.

£12m worth of debt left unpaid. Yup, "true fairy tale".

One man's ego trip and determination to cheat by spending beyond the club's means while screwing the fans.

Yes, seriously. Even the most stupidest of con men wouldn't kill the golden goose if it kept laying eggs. Considering I received no 'dots' for the posts that makes your comment as daft as the conspiracy that somehow the world is against your team.

It's alright, going by some posters in the Premiership forum, it seems you just pick a random member and I'm their alias. If it helps, I hold both Rangers and Celtic in equal contempt.

I've not commented on this thread before (at least I don't think so, 6000+ pages is a bit much to check) but I just don't understand how Rangers can keep on doing this to themselves. If other teams with far less resources can run on an even keel why are Rangers so spectacularly bad at it?

The ICM, Survation and Opinium were released last night, so whatever is left. YouGov?

Fear created by the petty and negative campaigning of the Bitter crowd. Got a video to help you..

I am guessing both are including current undecideds, which would explain why both think they are in a better position than the polls.

If you count arrogant trolls like that H_B character then yes, but you can't base your opinion on the extremist views. As I say, if you were to walk the street, or chat in bars, nobody is predicting a 10% point gap. Many may suggest a No victory, but a slight one. The only people predicting huge gaps are those outside of Scotland, or (bless him) Tommy Sheridan - although obviously in the other direction.

It's the 55-45 suggestion, nobody is expecting that, not even the no voters. And to demonstrate as much.. However.. So... basically you agree with me, yet claim I am in denial. The movement is in favour of Yes and has been almost all the way through the last month and a half. Like a perfect golf putt it's going to drop into the hole of independence (oo-er) just at the right time ..

If ever there was a proof needed to show you are not in the country but observing from some distance, it's that summation. If anything the 3 polls show that there is still traction for the Yes vote, albeit slowed.

Not seen them but apparently the 3 polls just released (ICM Opinium Survation) are all showing round about the same % as before 48/52 (Y/N). If that is the case then there are two things we can take from those figures and they are positives for both sides: The plus for the No: The surge in Yes votes has been stopped. The plus for the Yes: The 3 stooges and massive scare stories of the last couple of days hasn't had an impact. Personally, I think that this is a positive for the Yes campaign overall as the No camp have no cards left to play; scaring and Westminster politicians visiting isn't going to improve the figures for the No vote, however an impassioned plea to the Scottish people to seize the day could, imo, help the Yes vote. Of course people would expect me to say that, but it's what I think.

To be utterly brutal I think that there is a huge support for the Yes campaign in the underclass of society, and to be fair I think a lot of that is to give the "tories an effing kicking" as Cameron put it. Now if there is one thing the underclasses are, it's unreliable. It's a massive generalisation, but I've slummed it in my time and sitting around smoking weed and playing computer games is considerably more fun than standing in a line to post a vote. Am I being unfair? Probably, but there is definitely a grain of truth in it.

But he has a mole, on the inside of the SNP party, don't you know?

I think it will be an even split between the camps when it comes to those who don't vote. What will be interesting is whether there suddenly become "incidents" at places expected to vote Yes. Power cuts, accidental flooding, door keys lost, etc. Reduction in staff so that it takes longer to process resulting in turn out dropping. I am not suggesting that will happen, I am just saying that if there are "accidents and incidents" (as Paul Simon sang) then one might suggest foul play.