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  1. St Roch's F.C. 2017-2018

    I can’t make the service on Friday but I will be thinking of Colin and his family and remembering how football reacts to news like this. I have been in a similar situation and a P&B poster to the Fauldhouse thread in a single post offered me his condolences whilst asking others who had scored in the match the day before. It made me smile at a time when smiles were scarce and nothing made sense. I got it. When you think deeply about the injustices of life and the unfairness of death it can leave you beaten and looking for answers. There is a regularity and togetherness of football divisions that can give you the glimmer of hope and a promise of life going on. I always think the best tribute to anyone that football can do is to remember with feeling and then go forward with passion. Hearing that Colin didn’t want a fuss made as it was “not his way” does not mean that people shouldn’t remember and smile because to be united with football unites you with everyone in times of trouble. I know it got me through a tough time and with time and smiles and laughter and tears and remembrance and respect, football, in whatever way it arrives, will bring something that can validate and commemorate and perhaps, with time, a glow inside that only being part of a loving family can give. For a football man. [emoji172][emoji460]️[emoji106]
  2. St Roch's F.C. 2017-2018

    I didn’t know Colin as long as most at the club but he was always a gentleman to me. He was the first guy at St Roch’s to ask me if I was the elusive Kinky Afro one day as he ticked my name off as a season ticket holder early last season. He said he enjoyed reading some of the stuff I wrote. “Just some?” I asked.. he laughed. He talked to me every time he saw me and shook my hand, always with a smile and a knowledge and dry wit that engaged me and had me nodding as I knew behind that facade was a wise man with a football heart and head. I always thought he could have a cutting edge if he ever put his mind to it and I remember the AGM in the summer when he caustically chastised someone for nominating him into the committee before “begrudgingly” accepting. I laughed and smiled. Quite rightly people have been paying their respects and the good wishes of other clubs shows the regard in which he was held. Football brings you into contact with loads of people and some of them stand out for a simple wee word, a wee smile, a friendly nod or a quiet football chat.. it bonds you somehow. It is the wee things that make a big man. It made him that to me. [emoji17][emoji172][emoji460]️[emoji120]
  3. St Roch's F.C. 2017-2018

    I have an idea which I have floated to some of the committee and it ticks a lot of boxes and won’t cost anything (I think!) and will not only cement into Candy history all the former players but bring them out into the open and allow the fans, community, the football family and the players and their families to see them in the full green Candy light of recognition and thanks and respect. I’m going to try to get this set up with a target set to have it up and running and an ongoing successful project by the centenary. I have loved the last week on this thread. I often say that P&B is just a pub discussion and more often than not, an arguement. That is fine, because football ignites your soul... but it can also fire your memory and passion and I defy anyone who has been reading this not to think back on their own football life, the things they have seen and the stories they have heard, and not to feel a warm glow and crack a faint smile of a longing for the past and joy at the same time. I know football can give you so much if you let it in. I’ve loved this history chat and how as we approach Christmas time that we wise men have travelled following our own Candy star all the way to Bethlehem. I can confirm, in case anyone is wondering, that there’s only one Johnny Rollo, one Johnny Rollo, there’s only one Johnny Rollo. [emoji294]️[emoji172][emoji460]️[emoji106]
  4. St Roch's F.C. 2017-2018

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Rollo Excellent read!! I am Candy, I will travel!! [emoji172][emoji460]️[emoji106] “In 1922, Rollo signed with Rangers F.C. of the Scottish Football League from Scottish junior side St Rochs FC playing five reserve matches, but no first team games. In 1923, he moved to St Johnstone F.C.. In September 1924, Rollo left Britain, arriving in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania on September 16, 1924 where he signed with Bethlehem Steel of the American Soccer League. When he joined Bethlehem, the team was disappointed with his form, but by February 1925, he had developed into a regular starter with the team.[1] In 1928, the ASL expelled Bethlehem when the club defied the league’s boycott of the 1929 National Challenge Cup. Bethlehem then joined the Eastern Soccer League. In the process, the United States Football Association declared the ASL an “outlaw league”. In 1929, the ASL came in compliance with the USFA and the ESL merged into the ASL. Rollo remained with Bethlehem Steel until it folded in 1930. He then moved to the Newark Americans, but by that time, the American Soccer League was collapsing from the financial losses caused by the 1928-1929 Soccer War and the onset of the Great Depression. The Americans folded in 1931 and Rollo moved to the New York Americans.”
  5. St Roch's F.C. 2017-2018

    The Candy Chronicles- 100 years of Passion and Tears. The highs and the lows, The Yeses and the Noes, The wins and the loses, The fans and players and bosses. The struggles and battles, The scarves, hats and rattles, The trophies and Joys, Of the Garngad Boys. 100 years fighting, And we are still writing, About being a fan, What makes me a man, To belong and to know it, Means we can all own it, Silverware gleaming, A century dreaming...... 100 years Never forget You sign up for the Candy You sign up for life. Chose living this life Candy Green.... the Candy Dream Dream on lads.... 100 years more....please... keep being and keep dreaming. [emoji172] I do get carried away at night time!! Mon the Candy! MTC![emoji172][emoji460]️[emoji106]
  6. St Roch's F.C. 2017-2018

    What a great wee catch up of the last couple of dozen or so posts. The history of football weaves it’s way through almost every family and we all know a story of someone who was a great player or of an old ground we knew. The history of St Roch’s sounds fascinating and it would be great if someone one day wrote the book. Would be brilliant for the anniversary and could be a great project for a certain writing student I spoke to on Saturday who also contributes to this forum. [emoji460]️[emoji106] I am sure it would be a best seller and a great read. Just think of all the families who have ties to this club? All the players and all the fans and everyone who lived near. Some people don’t get football and don’t get what it can do and bring and mean to a community. What about all the people who now talk about us on line, good or bad, fact or fiction, praising us or slagging is off. Some clubs have no one who care about them. To think of St Roch’s in that way just adds impact to Bertie Auld’s “It’s a way of life” statement. I really think we are all so so lucky to be part of it. Mon the Candy! MTC![emoji172][emoji460]️[emoji106]
  7. St Roch's F.C. 2017-2018

    We all agree then on pretty much everything[emoji460]️[emoji106] Nothing wrong with creating a hostile home atmosphere and I read once about a few Christians cursing their luck they got an away draw against the lions. They were always going to be up against it... Guilty as charged is probably fair but a little harsh too. We have people who want to chuck muck at us so we put in place things to avoid that. When we don’t follow them we leave ourself open. It really was as simple as that. Enough already. I suspect that we will have this sorted for the next game. MTC! [emoji172][emoji460]️[emoji106]
  8. St Roch's F.C. 2017-2018

    As I said, I have no problem with alternative opinions or alternative reporting of the facts. I am not sure that reporting what you see is an accusation??? I am a candy fan but that doesn’t mean to say black is white or fact is fiction. The JALD guy made an observation (I don’t think he caused it) and I said I could see why he said that. I didn’t start this or volunteer it.. someone else saw it and if it didn’t happen then it would be easily dismissed. It is just a statement and my take on events. We have a procedure that wasn’t followed, end of, it’s not an argument. Remove StRoch’s from this for a second ......I just think that a referee walking off a pitch at any game with any fans in touching distance at any level be it Premier league or juniors is an invitation to trouble and leaves the home club at risk. We don’t need or want risk. If the players get in his face (as a couple did) then the ref can deal with that via his report and they will be dealt with quite rightly. If we have a procedure in place for our enclosure and the tunnel at full time (you may think it it OTT but I don’t) then we should follow it. I’m not sure what part of that you can disagree with? Of course someone could jump the wall or do something stupid but then we can hold our hands up and say we were doing all we could. As for the events yesterday I can accept that my threshold of acceptability may be higher than some and less than others. That’s fine. We can disagree on what is acceptable or not. I just find it strange that anyone who saw that didn’t feel the tension at the time. Why did Stevie go to escort the ref off?? Just as well he did in my opinion. St Roch’s as a club took a telling off last year, took a fine and put our hands up as a genuine good intention inspired mistake caused an incident. The club are trying to do the right thing. We put in place measures to avoid this and procedures to stop this happening again. If it was a problem then, it is a problem now. We can’t abandon it just because it is too tricky to implement or we decide that it doesn’t matter. If we can’t manage that then we need to draft and implement another procedure. That was my point. We either do it right or we do it wrong. It is easier and better for all concerned if we do it right. No one wants to see anything happen that could slight our fans right lily or wrongly, or negatively impacts our club and the good work and progress we are making, me as much as anyone else. I think the procedure we have is good and can work and protects the fans and the club as well as the players and officials. It just didn’t happen yesterday. Just my opinions. Anyway, we should be talking about some good performances (well the last 20 mins I saw) and the encouraging to the eye work rate and skill on show. Definitely a bit better looking to me than at some points earlier in the season. Can we end in a high? More likely a sigh...[emoji850] MTC![emoji172][emoji460]️[emoji106]
  9. St Roch's F.C. 2017-2018

    I suspected I might get some stick but it is fine. I am saying what I saw and what I thought. You are entitled to think what you want. What they did has no effect on what I said and what this JALD said or did previously is his opinion and doesn’t cloud mine. What I said was what I saw in relation to his claim. I said “a gang of thugs” was a bit harsh but could see why he said it. No one apart from the ref can say if he was intimidated. I never said I knew and neither can you say he wasn’t. What was a fact is that despite the walls at the side being built and the procedure being that this area is cleared to allow players and officials to walk off, this didn’t happen yesterday and it looked ugly. That’s it. Debate the rights or wrongs of that. The joy of football is that it stokes the fires of opinion, we are allowed to argue and disagree. How a referee performed or what someone else said or how other team’s officials behaved in a dug out have got nothing to do with anything IMO. It might enflame but it doesn’t justify. You can’t just deflect things that we do wrong (ie not following the procedure we ourselves put in place) by saying “aye well but what about what you lot did?” That doesn’t wash with me and trying to offer a justification for our own bad actions is a dereliction of responsibility in my opinion. “Your honour, ah know ahm guilty but gonnae let me aff cos he did it anaw?”... “That’s nae excuse laddie...take him down...” [Ref:Burke & Hare trial, Christmas Day, 1828]
  10. St Roch's F.C. 2017-2018

    I was there in the shed (behind the wall where we all should have been but weren’t) and saw it Chris and why would I lie? I have no desire to bad mouth the Candy fans... if you report what they did and that condemns them then the issue is the behaviour not the reporting of it. It doesn’t give credence to anything by reporting a fact and the measures we put in place after the Kilwinning debacle are not enough as they didn’t work yesterday.. fact. There were people within easy touching distance of the ref and that shouldn’t be the case. I didn’t see the whole game and so can’t comment on your point about him trying to be centre of attention and then complaining about things. I didn’t think it was him complaining about it, I thought it was a Rossvale guy?? Anyway, if every fan was behind the new whitewashed walls as they should have been, leaving that whole area empty, then this doesn’t happen and we are sorted. That wasn’t the case yesterday and it could have escalated as the guy rightly said. As it happens it was just right in your face abuse and didn’t look good, balanced, justifiable or fair in my eyes. I am not sure if you were there how you can disagree?? Do you think it was ok or that “he deserved it”? Abuse and verbals is to be accepted but this wasn’t simply that in my eyes. Anyway, usual talking about pish referees and hard luck stories is fine.. that can’t escalate or the game’s done. MTC![emoji172][emoji460]️[emoji106]
  11. St Roch's F.C. 2017-2018

    As for the game, again I only watched the last 20 minutes having taken in a Scottish Cup miss match as StMirren went 7-0 up after 35 minutes as my core temperature dropped with every goal. I headed west young man with 25 to go and caught the last wee bit of the Candy as they tried to get an equaliser. I actually though we played well for the time I saw with Keiran Martin doing well and young Maguire very effective and for me playing his best 20 minutes I have saw him have in a St Roch’s shirt. I had a wee chat with him after the game and complimented him on his effort and busy-ness and work rate and effectiveness. Pointless being a busy fool. You can fall into that trap if you have pace to burn. As he gets older and learns and listens to the coaches he will understand what makes him a threat and effective and use that knowledge to do the right things at the right times to benefit the team and play well. You can score 3 in a poor team and play poorly and score none at a good standard and play well. That was the first time I have saw him look a little more grown up and he deserves praise. I hope he keeps doing it. Well done. As for the Rossvale, I thought they looked disciplined and organised and strong in key areas. Their keeper made a couple of decent saves that I saw and of course there was a late late penalty appeal which infuriated so many. I’ve seen them given is all I would say. It didn’t look nailed on to me though. But then again what do I know??? I don’t look at the game with my Candy glasses and Park reality aside. I don’t look at every decision that goes against us as part of a conspiracy. Most of the decisions that go against us anyway are the right ones. On my 20 min balance I thought we were somewhat unlucky and we could have nicked a point. C’est La Vie and Ça c’est Me. The final whistle was greeted like a cup final win by the Rossvale players and bench. A local derby is a kind of cup final. Good luck to them for the rest of the season. A decent club who are, just like the Candy, trying I think. As the temperatures drop my football heart gets warmer and I am in love with the game again I admit. I know I don’t go mental at games and don’t display the skewed eyes and opinions of some immersed fans who won’t see a throw in given against their team let alone a penalty appeal refused or a better team beating you... that doesn’t mean I don’t care though. Just because I try to tell the truth as I see it (I accept totally I may be wrong) or describe things colourfully in a non football manner or talk pish as some say, I just talk with my heart and start typing and let out whatever football love comes out. I try to see the good in all, I see the hopes and dreams of your biggest ever Scottish Cup tie and the biggest game you will ever play in dashed into despair after half an hour. They will still tell that story to their mates for the rest of their life though because I know I do the same. I see the starting shoots of a decent player bud into life with colour and promise. I see the passions and pain of fans and I know how they feel and why they feel it. The one I love has done this to me and she does it to us all. Damn that Foxy Football.. when will we ever learn? Never I hope. Mon the candy! MTC![emoji172][emoji460]️[emoji106]
  12. St Roch's F.C. 2017-2018

    The “threatening gang of thugs” quote regarding the full time whistle walk back to the dressing room by the referee may be harsh but I can see why the guy said it. It wasn’t great and despite big Stevie, the high vis jacketed steward, leading the way and basically escorting the ref into the changing room it was ugly to say the least and as that lad described at worst. He has a point in my view and I was there watching some right bad and uncalled for behaviour. We have had incidents before and the lad is right in flagging this up as a problem as believe me, all it needed was one guy to go a bit further and the club would have been in serious serious trouble. Whether the ref had a bad game or not is immaterial to the facts. No one is going to criticise any junior fan for giving the ref dog’s abuse. I’ve heard some great put downs come from the mouths of red cheeked and smoking eared fans who if they were under a rocket could launch it into space. To those of us who get a little less animated it can be funny at times and although probably “not right” I suspect most refs know it is coming. The unique set up of the St Roch’s changing area lends itself to this potential threat and the club made changes after an incident last season which have helped and I know there are further changes planned to remove this threat altogether. The changes we made would have made the “right in your face” confrontation impossible... I’m not convinced it worked yesterday. There are simple improvements that could be made (maybe not improvements, more like enforcement) and I’m going to suggest them to the club. The guy has a point and just because the ref had a poor game by all accounts doesn’t mean that his walk off the park shouldn’t be as safe as possible. Fans will be fans and fans and players who overstep the mark are just simply fans and players who overstep the mark. The fact they are St Rochs fans and players doesn’t lessen the fact or make it untrue. It wasn’t great so let’s stop kidding ourselves. Standards lads, standards.
  13. St Roch's F.C. 2017-2018

    I could elucidate....[emoji106] Also, good luck to Big B. There is an old football saying taken from the native North American red indians...”Never judge a man till you have played a game in his football boots” I wish you every success big lad. You’ll always and forever be part of the Candy family. [emoji172][emoji460]️[emoji106]
  14. St Roch's F.C. 2017-2018

    I always keep what I say brief... if you can stretch it to the new double twitter limit I would second that proposal[emoji172][emoji460]️[emoji106]
  15. St Roch's F.C. 2017-2018

    I’ve had a monumental and emotional week and all it has done has reaffirmed the importance and happiness and love and heart lifting joy of family. There really is no excuse to walk by on the other side of the road and if anyone ever finds themselves in a dark tunnel and feeling alone, the light that comes towards you may not be a train.. it might, just might, be someone with a light coming to look for you. Football can do that too. We are all just players and fans and football folk and when you have shipped 6 goals in and the opposition fans applaud you off for your efforts as we did to the Newmains keeper, or you wish their proud club tied committee man well and compliment him on the fact none of his team chucked it and kept going, or you mix with the fans who are talking and laughing about dogs that used to do white sh*tes or shouting cutting comments to the ref and opposition in the way that is just really taking the mickey but is actually the greatest form of recognition you can give an opponent.. it’s all about the bigger football family and at St Roch’s that is a tangible and remarkable and an incredible thing. I’m proud to be part of the family. It was Baltic yesterday.. 3 polar bears walked past us as we approached JMcGP and all three of them had on a new Candy pink bobble hat. “It’s frozen big man” one said in a North Pole accent “There’s a brass monkey in there looking for a welder”. We wrapped up and showed the season tickets only to be informed by our fastidious gateman that it was a cup game. I let the old man treat me and after he paid he went to get the coffees and I have a chat. Many hands are shook and it feels good to be back in the Candy fold. The old man is getting the coffees in and when I get to the club room I see two cups full and no auld man. “Yer da spilt his coffee and the Physio has him in the room”. The old guy comes back like a wounded solider, dressing and cling film administered. Thanks to the club for looking after him. Do you walk by on the other side of the road? It’s a family thing.... The game starts and we struggle to get a grip of it. Newmains are actually better than we thought and could have been at least a goal up as the big 11 (I thought he did well all game) lashed one over the bar when a side foot pass into the goal was the order of the day. I got the feeling watching them that they were a team of honest triers who were probably playing at a level a little above their standard. However they hung on and only a goal right in half time gave us a 2 goal cushion. I said at half time that it would end 6-0 because that was probably the real gulf and a heart breaker right on the break does leave you flat. And so it came to pass. It could have been double figures but for lazy finishing and good last ditch defending and good goalkeeping. One little bit of light relief came as after the 5th I think their keeper, 5 yards in front of the shed, took a drink from his bottle and threw it down in discuss. Of course this is a red rag to the Candy bulls who start shouting “now now son, calm down” then burst into a chorus of “Dont look back in anger” some people won’t agree but I think that is the ultimate show of respect. Does anyone think that being ignored or nobody bothering about what you do is respect?? That young lad will take it in good heart and remember getting applauded off. He is as much a part of the football family as any of us and that is the joy of football. It’s a family thing... A quick shower sh*t and a shave and it’s back to the hall for the Candy Cuddie Race Night and a catch up with former team mate and Candy player dad Albert Craig and the New Zealand branch of my family. A great night of everyone together. It’s a family thing... the night ends when my NZ national team rugby coach cousin in law leads a band of merry Candy men in a Haka!! What a laugh and it finishes with the jump into the air and high fives and hugs. Family can bring everyone together.... we decant and end up back at JMcGP in the club house and the family fun continues. I call a taxi for me and the auks man wan armed bandit at 2-10am[emoji30] I’m still struggling now but as I look back on yesterday and the last week I have an overwhelming sense of achievement, pride and belonging. When your mates are struggling and need a hand what do you do? When your team mates are struggling and need a hand what do you do? When your family need you what do you do? I have been all three of those and it is no over exaggeration to say that football has saved me and I know it can give so much to so many. St Roch’s will be announcing a new initiative shortly which will be massive. We are all part of the football family and don’t ever forget it. On this day when we remember everyone who went to war and never came back, I know many of the lads were great players. Imagine that now?? “Life, to be sure, Is nothing much to lose, But young men think it is, And we were young.” Half your team wiped out and the heart of your community torn apart. Your family. Our family. I fully believe that regardless of whatever team you support of play for, we all make this game what it is. Every single person as important as the next. The 80 year old scalded arm fan or the Haka leading guy from the other side of the world. All in it together and I feel blessed to call it mine and be part of this fantastic and fabulous and fullfilling football family. Mon the Candy MTC! [emoji172][emoji460]️[emoji106]
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