Unitedlad

Bit of a random one here, but with Dundee or Dunfermline going up and Rangers coming into either Div 1 or Div 3, will the Ramsdens Challenge Cup draw need redone? Both Dundee and Dunfermline are in the North/East half of the draw whereas Rangers would presumably need to be in the South/West. There are some huge journeys in the draw which clubs will presumably need to book coaches for and PT players will need to arrange time off their work, and the first round is only 20 days away now. Or if they just put Rangers in the North/East in place of DFC/DAFC, are Forfar or Brechin prepared for an invasion of Orcs potentially up in their numbers to show defiance? Would these games need to be ticketed? We really should have had answers a long time ago

Unfortunately they are still Rangers or 'The Rangers Football Club' as it officially is.

Can you point me to the statements where Celtic and Aberdeen have said they will vote no? I certainly haven't seen these yet

Thats fine, I'm not a Rangers fan and not fussed either way. But if the Newco is punished and/or seen as a direct continuation, then the history/5 stars etc etc all comes too, as hard to take as it is.

Which is it to be - some folk on here are saying Rangers are dead, they are no more, history is gone, they no longer exist and the newco is a completely new team. Then on the other hand there is outrage that the newco are not inheriting punishments that should be handed out to the 'old' Rangers. Going by the former, why the hell should a newco be punished for something which was carried out by a completely different entity when the newco never even existed! FFS make up your mind!

Just catching up - I reckon this is absolutely spot on. There were murmours of a consortium back at the time of the Blue Knights/Bill Miller bidding war which was said to include some pretty high profile Scottish names, who may well be Wattie, Park and McColl. I would be extremely surprised if Wattie & Co havent been working/discussing with Charles Green etc in the background the last month or so, manufacturing the exact position that Rangers are in today. Charles Green has agreed to act as the party that goes through the motions of the CVA and carries out the liquidation and formation of the Newco, and the Scottish consortium then stroll in to take over once the new Rangers are set-up - debt free with no BTC hanging over them. Charles Green makes a few million quid, and the only gamble is whether the other SPL clubs vote the Newco in - which we all know they will. I'm sure this has been answered elsewhere, but will the revised punishment which the SFA come up with (instead of the 12 month registration embargo) apply to the newco?

I would have thought that Mr Green would have had more important things to be getting on with than this?!

My personal opinion is that they would be lost to the Scottish game - despite cheating their way to all those titles and cups in the recent years they will still feel hard done by, so I can't see them continuing to spend their money on the Scottish game which a) has been going downhill for years b) they will blame for the demise of RFC , c) they will see as a far weaker league and d) would mean they had to sit and watch their former rivals Celtic win the league at an absolute canter by Christmas I'd guess that some of the ones down here in Ayrshire would maybe start following the local junior team, some others may start to follow the Chelsea team that they seem to connect with a bit more, but most will simply head to the pub on a Saturday and watch Premiership games which, lets face it, a lot of fans have started to do now that Scottish football is pretty awful and you can watch a decent standard of game and have a few pints for a fraction of the price of sitting in an empty stadium watching unfit players howf the ball up the park all afternoon (however thats a discussion for another time). So yeah I think they mostly wouldn't give a toss about Scottish football

I hope its better than when Daly played the hardman on the phone to the dialling tone in that programme.

Source?

Statement from SFA just announced on outcome of tribunal, and if I'm right it looks pretty big news. Rangers fined a total of £160,000 and cannot seek any new player registrations for 12 months! Only exception is players under 18! Whyte fined about £200,000

Been to the Aberdeen and Glasgow ones and they're both pretty good considering they are chains. Pretty similar to Zizzi's/Prezzo/Pizza Express etc

Apologies if its been asked already, but does anyone know when and where Ketchup is opening in Edinburgh?

Henman had a great chance this year, seemed to be playing okay, Federer out and Nadal with an injury scare but after the first set he was useless. Maybe next year (again)