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About garrellburn

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  1. Baillieston was the junior club of one of the great characters in Scottish football in the 80's and 90's, Crawford Baptie. He was one of my customers when he was serving his time as a mechanic with Arnold Clark at Tollcross. I had a tool sales franchise with Snap-On Tools in the East end of Glasgow at the time. I may write a book about it sometime!
  2. Quite surprising how most of the claims to high scoring are from Ayrshire. Usually in times gone by a high scoring forward would go senior and not accumulate a very high total in junior football despite scoring a barrowload in one season. To get a total like Querrie meant staying as a juniior for most of your football career which he did, never playing senior despite interest from Third Lanark after his Scottish cup exploits in 1955. Scored in every round, eighteen in total in that competition four in the final. A record which remains unmatched to this day. One I don't see mentioned was Billy Walker at Dalry, I believe he had a pretty good record and remained at Dalry for some time, any info? What about East and North Regions? No claims from there? I seem to remember reading about a junior player from the north who had a total of about 400 over a fairly long period, any info?
  3. There were some extremely shady characters involved, It all had to do with the social club and title deeds to the ground and club got mixed up I believe. The upshot was that The football club lost all claim to the ground and next thing you know houses were sprouting up like toadstools all over the pitch. Correct me if I'm wrong but Dunipace refused to play them in a cup game as a firearm had been produced and threats made on a previous occasion that they had been there. A very sorry tale and although there was talk of a ground on the other side of the old Edinburgh road it never materialised
  4. sorry about getting the facts mixed up about his Scotland appearances, I did remember the Duncan Edwards connection but should have checked out the result. We had signed Bobby from Campsie Black Watch a couple of years earlier and he had played in various positions, but it was only in mid season 53-54 when he took over the centre half role that he really became established. We had already lost two centre halfs with long term injuries that year, first Jimmy Falconer was injured in trhe first round Scottish cup tie against Armadale, which we lost in the replay. His replacement, John Bryden was also injured a couple of months later and Holmes was drafted in as a temporary measure. Being a National Serviceman he was not expected to be available regularly but fortunately it did work out and we went on to have our best ever season with five cups won including Evening Times (when it WAS a very prestigious trophy), West of Scotland, and Central League cup. Incidentally Jimmy Falconer went to Duntocher Hibs when he recovered and captained them in the Scottish cup final which they lost 4-1 to Kilsyth in the replay at Hampden. Our legendary centre forward, Alex Querrie, scored all four goals in that game, the first time it had ever been done in a cup final at Hampden, and preceeding Puskas by some six years. His ultimate goal tally for us was 260 in six seasons. He had also scored a few with Forth Rangers before that but hard to find any documented figures. I know a few others in junior football may have had a higher total but getting definite figures is very elusive, can we have some claims please.
  5. Bluedragon If anyone knows of any other Junior flyers from around this time or even earlier I would be very interested to hear. Not quite the same thing but our centre half, Bobby Holmes, was a National serviceman in the RAF at Kinloss. He somehow managed to wangle flights almost every week, probably to RNAS Abbotsinch, now Glasgow Airport, so that he could play for Kilsyth. That team of 1953-54 was our most successfull ever, probably even better than the team that won the Junior cup in the following season, !954-55 although of course it did have many of the same players. He went to St Mirren at the end of that season and went straight into the first team and captained the Scotland U-23 side that year which beat an England team with many players who went on to become full internationalist.Just before the start of the following season he had his leg broken in a training match by his own team mate, Willie Telfer, who later pl;ayed for Glasgow Rangers. He never made a real recovery from the injury but made a career as a physio and was with Mothrwell in that capacity for some years
  6. Denis was a very good footballer who got his Scottish cup medal and Junior caps when still only 19 years old. He played for Raith Rovers before moving on to Nottingham Forrest, and then Colchester where he had a spell as a coach before moving back to Scotland. He had another brother, John, who also played for us around 1957/8. A decent player but never played senior as far as I know. Denis is still a regular visitor to Duncansfield and a nicer man you will never meet.
  7. Yes, I think your correct. terrible thing this old age!
  8. It incuded some Celtic players including Jimmy Johnstone in the team, but there were also some juniors including three from Kilsyth, two of them played in the Scottish Junior cup winning team of 1967. One now sadly deceased, but the other still with us and who has put his memories of it in a privately published document. The tournament was the Kennedy cup, sponsored by Harp Lager, and with a prize fund of £1000. It was actually played twice, in 1964 & 65 although Jimmy Johnstone only played in the first one, I suspect he had been rumbled and told in no uncertain terms by Jock Stein not to repeat the experience. The priest from Carfin was Father Gillen, his brother owned the hotel in Moville, near Derry, where the games were played and he was probably the main beneficiary taking a fortune in the bar after the games! There was also a Welshman in the team, known only as Taffy, so he was probably keen to keep his identity a secret as well.
  9. All of the ones mentioned were within Glasgow City boundary, with the exception of Baillieston, just outside. Strathclyde I believe had a bit of a nomadic existance in their final days, in the East end, just off London Road. Parkhead (Helenvale) had a huge pitch quite close to Celtic Park, it was used by Celtic as their training ground up until they moved to Lennoxtown. Shawfield was quite close to Shawfield stadium in the middle of tenement housing, the area now totally redeveloped. Maryhilll Harp were in Kelvindale, close to a large papermill? on the banks of the River Kelvin. All of them were pretty basic grounds with little or no covered terracing as I remember them. One I do have very fond memories of was Carronbank, home of Dunipace, very tight little ground with a small covered enclosure, always jampacked with Kilsyth supporters when we went through to give them their annual thrashing. In fact they went over twelve years during the 50's and early sixties without a victory despite meeting several times a year in the league games and in the various County cups of which there were several at the time. Happy days indeed!
  10. Ashfield (of course), Shawfield, Strathclyde, Maryhill Harp, possibly St Anthony & Glencairn were all either ash or hard packed earth with no more than a grass fringe round the edges. I'm going back almost sixty years so memory might be a little bit unreliable. Does anyone remember Carfin Emeralds, not a junior side, but a very interesting history?
  11. Sandgrownun, I attempted to research this some time ago but was thwarted after being told by the Mitchell Library that the records for the building of Bon Accord Crescent were in the Motherwell Heritage Centre who then maintained, 'No, they were transferred to the Mitchell some time ago.' Impasse, stymie, dead-end, checkmate. I had been looking to find out why Bon Accord had been chosen as the name and it soon became clear that the crescent begat the football club which was founded in 1944 (they never played anything other than as Juniors though) although fundraising took six long years before the club was ready to start playing. I also visited the Motherwell Heritage centre fairly recently to do somew research on one of our players, Ian Goodall, who had gone to Motherwell in the late 1940's, didn't get much on him but got diverted (as you do in these places) with loads of stuff on other Lanarkshire clubs. Shotts had a profusion of football clubs in the interwar period and even earlier. The ones that there is some infirmation on include Shamrock - late 19th century; Bluebell - around 1924; Battlefield - junior 1928-32; Empire - 1930, possibly a cafe team; Victoria - early 1940's. A lot of info and photos of Bon Accord cup winning team of 1958. Also some stuff on other junior clubs such as Douglasdale and Douglas Water Thistle. Its out there, just takes a bit of digging to find it.
  12. Nicky played in almost every game during the season, to expect him to maintain the highest level of consistency is just too much. He got some pretty rough treatment as well in a few games, the one at Pollok being a prime example. Not blaming them, they knew he was the danger man in our team and targetted him accordingly. He just got up and got on with the game, not like many others in opposition teams we met during the season, McGladrigan at Petershill being a prime example. If he had actually got that kind of treatment during the game we played in May he would still be on life support care in the Royal Infirmary!
  13. Maybe not, but there is no doubt he is the best football player we have had in a long time. I forecast he will do very well at Pollok
  14. Didn't know Mr Robertson was involved as far back as that. He is 'never entertained' by anything raised at the meetings in my experience.
  15. Strange that there were two Waverley's within a couple of miles of one another, Dennistoun and Bridgeton, could one have been a breakaway from the other?