LiviNeil

Typo there, I assume you mean Record. I don't really see what difference it makes who made the phone call, you told them your story in order to help you get your money from the club - and it worked I believe, fair enough. Anyway, bottom line, like me I am sure you are delighted we still have a club to support and are enjoying watching them week in, week out, win lose or draw. Mon' the Lions!!

Going by your logic then MCL, should you have been more patient about getting the money you were due from Livingston instead of doing your level best to get your case publicised as widly as possible? It's a stretch, but maybe it was you who started the ball rolling ending Massone's dream by having the affrontary of asking for what you were due! In reality, if the Trust and others had done nothing, nothing is what would be left of LFC right now.

Glad to have put a smile on your face MCL. There was no 'exclusion' as you put it, the writing of the business plan was in the hands of people more able to do it, no need for me to be involved.

Would you have given Massone any money? Really??? I didn't see any appeal, although again, would you have bought a season ticket with Massone in charge running the club into oblivion? Stop putting money in? Did they even start?

Yes, but being self appointed ultimate expert in all things Trust I'm sure you knew that already.

I was not involved in building any business plan

What income streams were strangled by the Trust?

Soemthing doesn't add up then. I would say that Massone did not act as someone who was on top of things. Why did he not pay creditors, (not just ones from Flynn era), why did he cash in the sell on clause for Dorans for a pittance?

The list of creditors that were not paid along with late or no payment to employees say that he was not doing so well, but I am no expert. Could it be that the current owners are merely the latest in the list of persona non grata on your hit-list?

Ok, I'll re-phrase - did LFC, under the ownership of Massone, pay you on time? The point being, you seem to be saying now that Massone was doing fine, all was well, until the bad guys came along and ruined things for him. You seemed to have a different view when you were chasing him for money 2 years ago.

Did Massone pay you on time?

Wow Alex, you might at least try and hide your delight.

Incisive counter-argument put across by Mr Todd again, genius. Bought your season ticket yet? If so, for which club?

in real terms the punishment of relegating us 2 divisions was a worse punishment than any points deduction would have been. In football terms we will start next season in the same position as we would have, however there can be no doubt that we lost revenue playing a season of 3rd division football rather than 1st division and will have a longer term effect.

If it existed in the first place then yes I did, however...............