Black and White Tragic

Signing inactivity and resultant tumbleweed on this thread is depressing. I'm consoling myself that by this time last year we had paraded what sounded like great signings to improve the side (on paper anyway), and that didn't turn out well.

Don't know why this is still being discussed. It will be Dick. Prepare to give him your full backing.

You don't like entertaining attacking football? Is this a personal thing?

I told you no discussion required. C'est problem? The man deserves it. League won by March 2016 - get to the bookies.

Dick Campbell will be the next manager. Look at what he does on a shoestring currently. Think about the attacking side he was involved with in the 90s. Pushed out by a few vocal fans when results weren't going our way. The man is Dunfermline through and through, he has passion in spades and has unfinished business at the club. No more discussion required. He is the man!

In the Dunfermline Press this week... "Fancy a challenge? Have you got what it takes to manage what is currently alleged to be a footballing team? Do you have the managerial prowess to take this now pitiful club, from 29th place in the Scottish leagues all the way back to the top flight? Follow in the footsteps of the legends who have graced the stadium of this once mighty giant; Jock Stein, Sir Alex Ferguson, Jim Leishman MBE, Istvan Kozma, Bert Paton, Charlie Dickson, Norrie McCathie and of course the legendary David Hay. You will of course have the backing of the largest support in the division, and larger than the combined fan base of all the other teams in Fife. Unfortunately remuneration is limited due to budgetary constraints in these austere times, and to pay off the incumbent managerial squad. Please apply in writing to East End Park, Halbeath Road, Dunfermline. Winner will be drawn from 50/50 Tombola on the eve of next season."

While Potter stays, my season ticket will not be renewed. I'm voting with my hard earned.

Interesting point, but your resolution is lacking some important detail. Exactly who do you bring in?

Can't believe all you doom-mongers, this league is there to be won!* *just not by the Pars.

To "stop us being shite" we need to start attacking from the start and keep it going for 90 mins. This playing slow and playing "safe" passes sideways or back is just inviting the opposition to have a go. If a full time team cannot wear down part timers by playing high tempo then they're not working hard enough during the week. Can they not work on passing the ball in front of a player who is MOVING? I'd play Moff and Faz up front with Barrowman linking from Midfield (but with a free reign). We should start using width more and I don't care if they take on a defender and lose out, just keep at it. If we go all out and it doesn't work we're no worse than the slow decline of the run we're in at the moment. Sure we might lose more goals but currently we have the best defensive record in the division - our problem is scoring and if you're not near the oppositions goal often enough you're never going to score! I don't care if we lose goals if we're scoring plenty. And fed up with the low on confidence bullshit. Players are in control of their own confidence and if they are allowing fear of failure to affect their performance then they're in the wrong job. I don't accept that excuse. It has to be tactics that is the issue here. There have been spells in games where they have turned the screw, (e.g. at the end against Airdrie and a couple of spells first half in Morton game - there is no doubt the players have the ability). Keep the opposition busy and they'll have less time to create their own chances. And for the record I don't think winning this league from current position is unachievable. If the players think it's not achievable then we may as well get the part time contracts sorted out now.

anyone who slags Moffat doesn't know a footballer when they see one. Strikers need service and he doesn't get enough of the ball. I'd have him in my team every week, and not dent his confidence by benching him.

Yoda say, "score many goals, worry less about defence you must". Defence has not been the issue. Our problem has been our midfield not delivering enough creativity. Other teams are not afraid to push up and "they should be, they should be!" Yoda say, "in the hole behind Moffat and Faissal, Barrowman play he must".

Why is Jim J not talking to the BBC?

Rob it's only £1214.56 - don't exaggerate!

http://www.dafc.co.uk/staticFiles/3b/c1/0,,10288~180539,00.pdf Should allow you to trawl through for the number you're after. A bit more complex than your everyday club given the creative accounting from the previous owner. More importantly the accounts will be due out shortly for balance sheet before commencing coming season which are the numbers I'm more keen to see.

A trading loss is different to going into debt. Here's an analogy... You start the year with £5000 in your savings account and £1000 in your current account. You earn £15k from your job for the year, stress testing blow up sheep which your company sells high volumes through its chain of sex shops in Wales and it's flagship store in Aberdeen. After you pay for your rent, groceries, tax, pension, council tax, child maintenance, fuel for your moped etc. One year on you still have no debt (you are unable to get credit since you got blacklisted after your ex-wife ran up a massive catalogue bill and you couldn't keep up the repayments, and your wife then left you for the bloke she met on Jeremy Kyle - when you were on the show "my man supports Raith Rovers and can't satisfy me in bed"). You now have only £500 in savings and £3.76 in your current account. Now you still have no debt, but you have operated your finances at a loss for a year. If you continued at the same level of earnings and outgoings you would end up in debt (if anyone would lend you money) so you have to either get a better job (get promoted to a higher league) or spend less (go part time). Hopefully you now understand the plan?

By the way, my last comment was tongue in cheek, for the avoidance of any doubt.

More ammo for Cowdenbeath, RR fans et al when things go pear shaped. Arrogance is not a trait I wish to be associated with. But in saying that we should walk this division...

Nah, don't think it's anything other than trying to eek every penny out of the revenue as club will be paying a handling charge of 2.5% if everyone pays cash instead of card then that's about £5000 of a difference in revenue for the coming season. N.B. Which back in the days of less thriftiness would have paid Stevie Crawford for one week! Now do I pay cash or get Tesco points on CC, think on this occasion I'll pay cash...

As for the plastic v grass debate. THE GROUNDSMAN MUST STAY!

Ayr's chairman actually speaks like anyone would in his situation albeit a little misguided with regards his sour grapes at losing Moffat. The guy must be hurting, but he seems to be a bit hypocritical; he has a go at a club having gone into debt and ending up in administration (where the owner was putting in money creating club debt, due to him - and his creditors for that matter). Now he is doing the same and should he suffer some event which cripples his finances, like happened to GM, then he'll have a similar scenario on his hands. Remember GM spoke of "friendly" creditors and soft debt? He speaks of debt which he has no intention of calling in. The truth is that he cannot predict what life may throw at him and when he may "need" that money...

Vince got owned.... That was like a little consolation goal when getting pumped 3-0

Sorry Gordon, not with you there. I would've gone with taking our chances - effectively we would have had 10 local derby games + the new recent addition to the league x2(which seem to carry a decent support inherited from the demise of Rangers FC) at EEP and a healthy revenue. With the right decisions and a bit of work we could have had the aim of finishing 8th as an achievable objective and consolidated our position. But alas we lost to Cowdenbeath, and we are where we are. My only hope is that the premier sides don't raise the spectre of a 14 team top league again and bring with it the meaningless fixtures that would come with it after 2/3 of the season had gone. I can see this happening though to get the 3 best supported clubs apart from Celtic (and poss Aberdeen) on the fast track back to the top flight. Protectionism still rules in our game (our previous board being involved in it when we were part of the ess-pee-ell), as proved by the cascading playoffs for the top flight which differ from the other play offs, but it didn't help Hibs. If the structure remains the same at least one of these three will remain if we can get there next season...

Feel more gutted now that we didn't make it to the championship, it would have been some league....

I have just read Jefferies interview on the pars website. Grim reading. But a little insight into the wage bill suggests that the average wage of £500/week gives a monthly salary of a bit over 2 grand. Multiply this by 22 (size of squad) and I make that £50k per calendar month. Where is the other £150k of monthly liabilities? Management, stewarding, catering and back office plus utilities and misc overheads surely can't be three times the first team budget? Am I missing something here?