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"Jack Ross has principles". Are these the same principles that he (apparently) flung up the Hearts club doctor? Or the principles of ditching Alloa at the first sight of a new job? He may well stay at St Mirren but it won't be because he has principles, it'll be because it's the best thing for Jack Ross. Football fans need to stop believing shite like that.

I'm in buckles[emoji23][emoji23]

It all comes down to this season for Houston I think. Shouldn't be allowed any excuses and that means the board backing him to a decent extent. I just want to come into work one morning, have a coffee, log on here and see that we have signed a baller that gets me glistening at the tip. Too much to ask ?

The Brae Shop, Rhu, will be sponsoring Sons TV once again in the coming season.

Paterson, Nicholson and Walker all leaving. Good to see the Scottish core coming along strongly.

Bambino - friend of the stars.

10/10 few guesses on this one knew 5 and narrowed a further 1 to a 50/50

St. Mirren fans have had a fair time to gloat what with your great escape and the 4-1 game, but if you expect Morton fans (and everyone else for that matter) not to point and laugh when St. Mirren fans are claiming that bottom half of the Premiership Dundee isn't a step up from bottom half of the Championship St. Mirren because of Dens Park having a large maintenance bill then you're forgetting how P&B works.

We can't even appoint a new manager without making a c**t of it. The speil on the website is lifted directly from his wiki page, including the bit about leaving Aldershot because of shite results. Not quite the spin you'd think the club would be going for: http://www.raithrovers.net/30060/barry-smith-is-our-new-manager.htm# https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Smith_(footballer,_born_1974)

If only more specific increments existed for denoting time.

Div forcing Tam McManus into a charity bet that Jack Ross won't become our manager. [emoji38] Minter. I know Div tends to be in the know but he's had a fucking breakdown.

Agreed. Will be amazing to see him link up with Stevie Mallan again.

Imagine how funny it would be seeing St Mirren lose Jack Ross then signing Gavin Reilly. Mindblowing.

This is the time to get behind the club. Get those season tickets bought!

Whereas you are a Championship club who just avoided relegation.

If we take Jack Ross as manager, I expect this thread to "mysteriously" disappear again. Along with any other threads to do with Dundee. And all Dundee-supporting members.

10/10 which makes up a bit for yesterday. Got lucky with the airport and the Aussie sport.

I think Houston has done ok but I'm afraid he has blown it for us and don't think he'll ever get us out of this league. One up against DU at home and our usual tactics came back to haunt us, we're never good at defending a single goal lead SC final, tactics let us down again against a tired ICT who looked dead on their feet, we attacked pushing for the winner where some managers would have kept it solid and take the extra 30 minutes ET. Murdered at Killie due to a lightweight team last season with promises of buying more physical players that never materialised. Poor signings, poor partnerships on the park, favoritism towards out of form players, snail pace football out of position players, stubborn tactics. I can't see much changing soon, same old same old... Pre season wondering who is coming in, who is going, penny pinching, scared to open the biscuit tin, Looney chairman, no ambition, play offs best target as better budget DU are still in our league, so let's try to do it on the cheap and slink to the big league via the back door or hope for league reconstruction. Some poxy community initiatives to please everyone with little or no bearing on the most important thing about a football club... The 11 men on the park each week. Apart from that I'm extremely happy. Come on Ye Bairns[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

Also a great excuse to post this photo of the greatest tackle ever made on a football pitch. Bobby Moore applauded this one from the afterlife

Remember when J Thomson was out and Davidson was filling in? He was better than Thomson had been. I think he acquitted himself well at RB but will happily concede he has no place in midfield any more. I'm not saying he's a choice defender either, and I'm not sure we can afford to have a backfill player hanging around, but he doesn't warrant the constant abuse he gets on here from some.

Or, as some people might say, the back of Monday.

We were shite all season, and we were shite on Sunday. My real disappointment is that I let myself get my hopes up. There also seem to be a lot of Rangers fans on social media, etc saying United "got what we deserved". I'm happy to take abuse from the majority of fans, but not ones who watched their club die.

tl;dr summary: you're not exactly wrong but you're not covering the whole story either. Quitongo's injury was a big problem for us as his style of play was crucial to the whole system we were playing and no one else at the club could offer the same physical presence or intensity of pressing, but he got injured in December and our results continued to be excellent until the end of March, even though the performances dipped. It was really a combination of things which could all be traced back to Duffy having a bad January. I know Gavin Gunning's still a joke figure to Premiership fans due to the way his Dundee Utd career ended but he really was brilliant for us. When we were playing well we were so good because we pressed from the front and didn't give our opponents any time on the ball at all, but what enabled the midfield and forwards to press so high up the park was the defence holding a high line. It was Gunning's tactical awareness that constantly had the defence pushing up, squeezing the space for other teams to operate in and ensuring we didn't sit in too deep when we were holding a lead. Gunning left in January, no other defenders had the same tactical awareness and the defence gradually slipped back week after week (figuratively and literally, amirite?) to the point where they were camped on the six yard box shutting no one down, the midfield had to follow them back in too and their standing off allowed us to concede five goals in two legs to that absolute rabble of a Dundee United team. Also in January, with Quitongo injured we had to add to the attacking options and after missing out on Loy we ended up with Lawrence Shankland, who is an absolute waste of skin and will be playing in the Ayrshire juniors via Clyde within three years. For a while we were fine as we still had Gary Oliver on form and/or a midfielder who could at least run about and press up front, then Oliver got injured too and we were reliant on that fat immobile mess: he couldn't be less like Quitongo and the pressing game was gone. Combine the lack of pressure on the opposition defence with Gunning's absence having our defence drop back, our midfield which had been swording teams every week had too much ground to cover while being squeezed by the opposition and Ross Forbes, who was scoring or setting up a goal in every single game in the first half of the season, was invisible in the last quarter. Duffy does deserve credit for how good we were in the second and third quarters of the season as well as the League Cup run, but he had a dreadful January which came back to haunt us, we ended the season on a run of 11 games without a win and as I said in the manager of the year thread in the Championship forum, he's not achieved anything unrealistic with us. While this had the potential to be a brilliant season, it's turned out to just be decent. He is doing a good job, but fourth in the second tier and a couple of wins over top flight clubs in a cup is an entirely realistic target for Morton, no matter how much Chick Young types like to make out that he's a miracle worker and we should only be able to dream of having a season this good. If you want to see a manager achieving something unrealistic and miraculous in the Championship, Jack Ross keeping St. Mirren up from where they were in February is it. They had 14 points after 23 games, 11 behind 8th & 7 behind 9th, then he took 25 points from their last 13, with 6-2, 5-0 and 4-1 wins in there, to stay out of the playoffs on goal difference. That's an absolutely ridiculous turnaround and Ross should undoubtedly be the first Championship manager in line for a Premiership job on the back of it. Get him appointed.

20k eh? I think we should all chip in and pay the fee ourselves. If you all want to send the money to my PayPal account then I'll forward the money onto Nelms

Prove them all wrong Housty my man. [emoji170]

A couple of pages back someone mentioned players returning to former clubs can be detrimental and there are many examples to prove this theory over the years. But in the case of the likes of Sparky, Cawley and now Meggatt- these guys are top end quality part time players. I don't see it as sentimental reasoning. These are among the best players in the market we are in, and it's a credit to our club that these guys want to come back and play for us.

Can't agree, I think he will have a strong season for us next year if he is used correctly!

I don't know. Bambino, does he?

St. Mirren fan makes ridiculous and entirely serious claim about size of St Mirren in relation to Dundee Fans of multiple other clubs point and laugh at ridiculous claim while explaining why it's ridiculous St. Mirren fans who know fine well the claim is ridiculous ignore it, accuse Morton fans of bringing the size of clubs up to point-score and start talking about Morton, when it was a St. Mirren fan who brought the size of clubs up in the first place That about covers what's happening here.

I ended up saying 'Give Locke a chance' then I said 'Hughes is a banging appointment' so this time round I'm keeping my moy shut,Teehee

Fair enough, I totally agree with you: trajectories are the important thing in football, not trophies, or time spent in the top flight. On an unrelated note, here's a picture of 95-year-old Prince Philip, taken in the same year Morton last won a proper trophy.

It is theoretically possible to get a very small compensation if someone moves cross border for a transfer fee (not on freedom of contract) if you had them on loan for a period of time. Most clubs ensure as part of any loan agreement though that the borrowing club signs away its rights to any such compensation. It's absolute buttons in percentage terms depending on the player's age and length of time he was there though. It might be 0.5% or less of a fee. Still I suppose if the fee is £1m that's still £5k. Wiki says Goodwillie was £2m and Russell about £750k. Goodwillie had a 2 month loan when he was 18 and Russell about 9 months there when he was 19. Can't imagine Raith actually got anything massively significant from either player. Jamie Walker was with Raith for about 6 months when he was 18. If he goes to England for a significant fee and Hearts didn't contract them out of it at the time, then potentially there could be a small amount of cash in it for them I think. I don't think the training compensation applies if he moves domestically but I may be wrong. It's not an area I've looked into in massive detail.

The club that keeps on giving [emoji24] [emoji23] [emoji24] [emoji23] [emoji24]

Fucking hell they've got the club accounts out now

Ive long been convinced that large parts of the electorate are indeed sheep like.Basically if you can entice a few into your field eventually the other ones follow just to be the same as the rest.That for me is what the SNP need to keep an eye on.Corbyns field looks enticing to a few and Davidsons is similar.Create the perception you are on a roll and get the gate open and it can become self fullfilling once the media start picking up on it.

f**k, I wish I'd never asked now. Jk m8, thnx 4 the summary.

Let's go completely retro and for the 70's Bukta kit. The first Alloa top I owned.

10/10 Knew 9

This has been an excellent season, have absolutely loved going to Pittodrie - great to be able to travel through to Aberdeen every other week full of confidence for once. Oh, and my wee lad's obsession took off properly. The boy is Dons daft. 7 years old, walking to Hampden with other Dons fans, getting songs going. Wee dude. "We don't give a fudge, whoever you may be..."

Had the pleasure of meeting Barry Smith at a charity do once. He was surprisingly down to earth, and VERY funny.

Neil McCann FFS. I think we all need a holiday. Let's pick this up again towards the end of June.

I probably would but that's got hee-haw to do with my point. He was at Alloa saying his aim was to get them back into the Championship and had them flying. He then jumped ship as soon as a bigger club came in. Moral of the story here is that it matters not a f**k what a manager has said in the past, if they think it's the best move for them then they'll move. If fans want to believe Jack Ross is a man of principles and will turn down moves to stay and "see this through" then wire in, it's false though.

This was down to hitting the wrong button on the photocopier.

Wreckless Eric - Whole Wide World (warning: Betty Paige ahead)

That's your reflection in the bus window, you fucking thick c**t. Thank you.

None of these pantomime villains, please Nelmsy. Apart from maybe Wagner. I just threw him in there because he's got a cracking tashe. Thank you.