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  1. In Topic: Scottish Independence

    25 May 2012 - 17:33

    View PostTryfield, on 25 May 2012 - 17:22, said:

    And that is what I'm talking about. Stability.

    With the population living longer and more and more people becoming entitled to the benefits mentioned earlier, folk don't want to risk losing them. The under 30's who need to work until they are around 74 now to secure any benefits will say "Let's Go For It" ......... Scotland the Brave and all that, but people with kids and grand-kids want a secure future for their off spring.

    As I said earlier, I want stability, I don't want to realise a politicians dream over my families well-being.


    So, hang on, the younger generations will vote yes because they think they'll be better off but their parents and grandparents will vote them down because they want a better future for them?

    I thought a minute ago, older people were rabidly fending off any hint of change that might knock a few pence off their pension. Now they're the selfless guardians guiding the younger generations towards the wisest choice?

    Speaking very generally, older people (not OAPs but at least over 50) and women are least likely to vote for independence. In my experience, these are the two groups that are simply the most scared of change and want everything to stay as it is. I think that's got as much to do with it as any kind of crap about 'better future for our kids'.

    I 'd bet the demographics for say, getting rid of the monarchy would closely mirror that for independence for pretty much the same reason.

  2. In Topic: Scottish Independence

    25 May 2012 - 17:09

    View PostTryfield, on 25 May 2012 - 17:02, said:

    No Gordon. Most of my older mates are ex-miners, Labour through and through and now totally disillusioned with that party. They would rather contract rabies as vote Tory and they do not trust the SNP one little bit. Remember these guys are getting to an age where their free bus passes, free prescriptions and old age welfare means a lot to them. These are the guys who repeatedly say "If it's no broken, you don't need tae fix it". That's what the SNP need to overcome. No more, no less. People want to know their immediate future and prospects of keeping what they already have. Salmond has got an uphill struggle to get his dream.....the electorate want stability, not dreams.


    No doubt. The sub-set of the population who are, say, over 50 and have never supported independence probably never will in any significant numbers no matter what the SNP say or do betwen now and 2014.

    It's probably not because of some careful consideration of any of the factors involved it's basically just a fear or unwillingness to accept change.

    Too many people see independence as some huge gamble where they kind of either expect it to be the best thing ever and they'll be much better off or the worst thing ever and Scotland'll become a 3rd world country and they'll lose their pensions and end up on the streets. That's just so obviously a stupid way of looking at it. The reality is, it's probably not going to make a huge difference in most people's day to day lives.

  3. In Topic: Scottish Independence

    25 May 2012 - 16:54

    View PostTryfield, on 25 May 2012 - 16:50, said:

    If any politician or political party says I'll be better off, nay, guarantess I'll be better off, they may well get my vote. If, as it looks like, I'll be better off with the status quo, that decision will be getting my vote for definite. £xx per week means more to me than having a President.


    I know I'm maybe a bit too young and idealistic but in my perfect world people would actually think about what their vote would mean and what impact that would have rather than sitting, cross-legged in front of a bunch of politicians and deciding who runs the country by who gets the biggest cheer when they promise you how many goodies they'll give you if they get in.

  4. In Topic: Scottish Independence

    25 May 2012 - 16:51

    View PostTryfield, on 25 May 2012 - 16:35, said:

    In the last few weeks I've noticed more and more folk getting angry about the EU position.


    To be fair, I doubt a bunch of middle-aged, red-faced UKIP voters sitting in a pub has ever been the SNP's target audience.

  5. In Topic: Ins and Outs - Summer 2012

    25 May 2012 - 15:34

    View PostCowden til i die, on 25 May 2012 - 00:28, said:

    Good back pass on him ;)


    Durie'll have him on an intensive pass back training regime over the summer. Him and Mark Baxter.

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    Sancho Panza 

    12 Apr 2011 - 09:00
    did you have a guy called Pettigrew on your books at the start of the season, if so any info, sorry dont have a first name yet
    best regards
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