Junior_Arab

A lot of the boys that spunked Ogren’s money setting up the apparently elite youth system left pretty quickly and have had about 3 jobs in as many years since. Before accountability sets in…

Decent. Used to prefer your old kit launches for some reason though…

I was listening when they did this. I can’t for the life of me remember exactly what the last quote in the montage was, but it was something like a pundit (presumably talking about the game they were at that day) saying “this has been terrible, a real lack of quality on show today” and then went straight to the trail ending with a voiceover saying “Saturday afternoons with Sportsound”. I thought it was a strange quote with which to finish the trail then I wondered if an editor had stitched them up on purpose…

Surely Rangers & Celtic demand this treatment at Hampden?

I hope to f**k there’s a name missing from the GTF list. You know the fellow - hat with corks hanging from it, fragile wrists resembling a South-Asian crispy fried appetiser, perennially embarrassed look upon his face…?

I think there are a lot of young guys who haven’t really done much to enhance their reputations this season. One of the only silver linings of being relegated was that I thought it might result in guys like Mochrie, Meekison, McLeod, Cudjoe etc establishing themselves as first team players - it could have been the making of them, but very few of them really managed to make much of an impression. Fotheringham certainly, Graham (if he hadn’t already) and Cudjoe in fits and starts have probably shown they are of the standard required but the rest haven’t done themselves any big favours.

Just catching up with this now. f**k me, that is one of the biggest stonewall penalties I have ever seen. And it’s never, ever a foul in the build up. I don’t think the ref even knows what he’s given the free kick for. He just panics because he doesn’t want to give the penalty.

Chuffed with that, but can’t bring myself to be delighted, because it still feels like a situation we should never have got ourselves into in the first place. Fair fucks to Raith, they chased us a lot longer & harder than I expected them to do. To match our first half of the season was particularly impressive. Still not 100% convinced by Goodwin, and a few of the younger lads we seemed to have big hopes for haven’t really done enough to suggest they’ll do a job in the top flight. The hard work starts now - a lot of ins & outs to come before next season hopefully.

27th, 74th and 115th (if required) please.

No, of course it’s not impossible. And remember, I wasn’t querying whether anyone at Dens was sufficiently qualified to make the case for antiquated sewerage or an underground water course being the cause of the your recent issues, rather I was doubting the expertise of your online fans who have subsequently presented these things as facts. But if any of those things had been the case I think it might have been mentioned as a mitigating factor by the club by now. I suspect they might have raised it when approached for comment in tonight’s article on the Courier website, for example. https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/sport/football/dundee-fc/4945576/dundee-fc-dens-park-pitch-problems/ spoiler alert:

Hills “work” in any number of ways. If you’re talking about water running down them (which, if you want to be pedantic about things is probably more about how water “works” tbh) then, yes, I’d like to think I’ve a decent grasp of the basics. But it doesn’t make me Joseph fucking Bazalgette.

The point I’m making there is that I have no fucking idea about the sewers, drains etc in that part of town, or indeed any other part of town. And I’m afraid I have a hard time believing that you or any of the other Dundee fans who are suddenly “experts” on the topic do either.

All this pish about sewers, drains, burns etc that has become “fact”since somebody speculatively mentioned it in the build up to your match on Saturday… If it was true do you not think it might have been a problem before now? If it was true do you not think somebody from your club might have mentioned it by now given they’re now onto (checks notes) climate change as an excuse? Extremely localised climate change that doesn’t affect any other ground in Scotland obviously. I think they might have gone for the blocked drains first if that were in any way true. So far this season Dundee and their fans have blamed referees (are we still demanding the sacking of the guy who called off the Aberdeen game?), their groundstaff, the drains, the council, house building 20 yrs ago, climate change and f**k knows what else for games being called off. And yet I’ve never seen any Dundee fan on here mention chronic underinvestment in their facilities as a factor.

I think recent events have put an entirely different spin on those pyros though - maybe they were being used genuinely to signal for help by people stuck in the quagmire in the middle of the pitch, being slowly dragged under to their doom?

He’s pretty much done it already. I mentioned this earlier in the thread, but a couple of weeks ago he spent 10 minutes arguing that by going for a manager from the English Championship / League 1 level Aberdeen would be showing a massive lack of ambition. He then immediately pivoted to shouting loudly that managers at English Championship / League One level were way out of Aberdeen’s league and they couldn’t possibly hope to appoint someone like that.