[doulikefish]

lewis hamilton gets a mbe in the honours list

[Mr. Brightside]

Ferrari will unveil the upcoming seasons' car on Monday the 12th of January.

[flyingscot]

Mr. Brightside, on Jan 6 2009, 21:22, said:

Ferrari will unveil the upcoming seasons' car on Monday the 12th of January.

Launched today and it didn't look as bad as the doom-mongers had been saying, from some angles it looks little different.

The front wings are massive and we will see incidents at the start of those things getting clipped and removed.

[doulikefish]

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heres some pics

[fishy]

From those pictures it doesn't look quite as bad as some of the hybrid versions. Although...

that rear wing looks ridiculous.

[doulikefish]

fishy, on Jan 12 2009, 16:39, said:

From those pictures it doesn't look quite as bad as some of the hybrid versions. Although...

that rear wing looks ridiculous.

here is the whole press ceremony

ceremony

[Dave]

Haven't been keeping up to date with the F1 over the winter as much as I should have, but I'm doing my best to catch up.

The cars look fucking hideous, but if they improve the racing without the need for rain then I'm not bothered about the looks.

[BerwickMad]

Its only really the wings which look stupid. The rest of the car looks far nicer without the stupid aerodynamic things stuck on them.

Would have looked better had they been like this:

[Stu]

Don't see the problem with the front wing - maybe sticks out either side of the tyres but two cars running that close at this angles is a bit unlikely.

[flyingscot]

Toyota launched yesterday- they need to do well to keep going. Interesting interview with Timo Glock on the BBC website, never realised how much flack he got over Hamilton in Germany too. Seems a bang up guy- wish him luck for next year.

[LTP]

flyingscot, on Jan 16 2009, 00:36, said:

Toyota launched yesterday- they need to do well to keep going. Interesting interview with Timo Glock on the BBC website, never realised how much flack he got over Hamilton in Germany too. Seems a bang up guy- wish him luck for next year.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport. ..one/7830287.stm

Yeah Glock seems quite a genuine guy. He's always going to get flack for what happened in Brazil though.

[flyingscot]

Ron Dennis to step down as head of McLaren this season. Not surprised probably had enough hard job to do since the 80's. New McLaren looks nice in the BBC photos, rear wing doesn't seem as stupid, but might be a clever angle!

[CooCoothenoo]

Another looker!

[xbl]

CooCoothenoo, on Jan 20 2009, 13:43, said:

Another looker!

Im not sure how much you know about motorsport, but you are aware that the fastest car wins, not the prettiest? So engineers design the cars to go quickly by being aerodynamic, not to make them look gorgeous.

[CooCoothenoo]

xbl, on Jan 20 2009, 12:58, said:

Im not sure how much you know about motorsport, but you are aware that the fastest car wins, not the prettiest? So engineers design the cars to go quickly by being aerodynamic, not to make them look gorgeous.

I know a fair bit. I'm not actually having a go at the teams. The governing body has produced a set of rules which mean that all the cars will look ugly. They have yet again failed to clearly define what aerodynamic aids are allowed (the idea was to get rid of all the aero add-ons). Ferrari have already found a way around this by using their mirror mounts as aero aids. The early '90s cars didn't have aero add ons yet were nice to look at and provided some pretty entertaining racing. The FIA could have produced rules which resulted in nice looking cars AND good racing, but they've fucked it up as usual.

As for your point about the fastest car winning and not the prettiest I beg to differ. They can be both.

[lzreid]

CooCoothenoo, on Nov 20 2008, 00:55, said:

A couple more of my favourites. The Brabham BT55, designed by Gordon Murray. It looked like it should go really quick, but it didn't. It was also the car in which one of my favourite drivers, Elio De Angelis (pictured), was killed.

That car is stunning.

I also don't think the new cars are that bad.

[CooCoothenoo]

lzreid, on Jan 20 2009, 13:45, said:

That car is stunning.

I also don't think the new cars are that bad.

The BT55 was a very interesting car. I credited Gordon Murray (who designed the McLaren F1 road car) with the design of the BT55, but he was helped by a guy called Pete Weisman, who had designed a low-line Indycar in the 1970s. The engine in the BT55 was tilted over at an angle. Unfortunately the car proved to be extremely unreliable. A couple of years later McLaren produced their low-line MP4/4, which won 15 out of 16 races during 1988. All of the BT55's are in Bernie Ecclestone's private collection, which isn't open to the public. He owns almost all of the Brabhams that were produced while he owned the team. They gather dust in a large shed in Switzerland, alongside other rare cars such as Mussolini's Lancia.

McLaren MP4/4

[lzreid]

CooCoothenoo, on Jan 20 2009, 15:09, said:

The BT55 was a very interesting car. I credited Gordon Murray (who designed the McLaren F1 road car) with the design of the BT55, but he was helped by a guy called Pete Weisman, who had designed a low-line Indycar in the 1970s. The engine in the BT55 was tilted over at an angle. Unfortunately the car proved to be extremely unreliable. A couple of years later McLaren produced their low-line MP4/4, which won 15 out of 16 races during 1988. All of the BT55's are in Bernie Ecclestone's private collection, which isn't open to the public. He owns almost all of the Brabhams that were produced while he owned the team. They gather dust in a large shed in Switzerland, alongside other rare cars such as Mussolini's Lancia.

McLaren MP4/4

Strangely, I was never a fan of the MP4/4. Probably the colour scheme to be fair (which I acknowledge is a poor reason).

Another reason for my belief that Eccleston is an arse. Some of those cars are historical objects. Frankly, any car related to this is a piece of art

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[CooCoothenoo]

That's Mike Beuttler driving that Brabham I think. He eventually died of AIDS.

[BerwickMad]

I quite like the look of the new cars now. Starting to warm to them. This is an interesting photo:

[CooCoothenoo]

Interesting article here about the danger KERS could pose to marshals. It seems like an ill thought out idea. What if a driver is trapped in a burning car but the marshals can't touch it? What if a driver is seriusly injured but they have to wait on someone arriving to make the car safe?
http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/ news...128103550.shtml

[Stu]

No news on a buyer for Honda but we could have a new American team for 2010:

http://www.autosport...rt.php/id/73121

The Yanks don't seem keen on the sport at the best of times so trying to get sponsors for a new team over there in this exonomic climate seems virtually impossible.

[IainMorton]

CooCoothenoo, on Jan 20 2009, 12:43, said:

Another looker!

I really don't like the look of that, the front of the nosecone looks hideous. Kinda reminds me of the Williams with their walrus tusk front wings!

[doulikefish]

Stu, on Feb 4 2009, 14:32, said:

No news on a buyer for Honda but we could have a new American team for 2010:

http://www.autosport...rt.php/id/73121

The Yanks don't seem keen on the sport at the best of times so trying to get sponsors for a new team over there in this exonomic climate seems virtually impossible.

i really like this bit of that story

The Formula One Teams' Association's (FOTA) recent confirmation that each manufacturer is willing to supply customer engines for 5 million Euros per season and gearboxes for 1.5 million Euros now make is more feasible than it has been for years for an independent team to enter F1 in 2010.

[Mackie The Staggie]

I'm acctually starting to warm to the cars tbh, although it still remains to be seen if they will be any good in 'dirty air'