[xbl]

Monster, on May 15 2008, 14:46, said:

Grow up. It's Stirling you live in, not Beirut.

Your missus also said last night it was quiet where she was. Dont see anyone slagging her off for it though?

[Ayrgirl]

The Gray Ghost, on May 15 2008, 15:23, said:

Your missus also said last night it was quiet where she was. Dont see anyone slagging her off for it though?

Actually I misread you and said "it is quiet on here"

[xbl]

Hootie McBoob, on May 15 2008, 15:31, said:

Actually I misread you and said "it is quiet on here"

Ah, my apologies!

[Todd_is_God]

the snudge, on May 15 2008, 12:44, said:

Not only in Manchester but Dumbartons High Street got a doing by pissed off huns. I'm sure it was the same in many places. Hammer them. They are the absolute shame of Scotland.

The atmosphere in Bridgeton seemed fine tbh, surprisingly. Everyone seemed to have enjoyed themselves and weren't intent on causing bother.

[Ric]

Swampy, on May 15 2008, 15:12, said:

Cheers, jester - awful stuff.

It is, but it holds no reference to Rangers fans physically dragging a train driver out of his cab..

[LOL @ Celtic]

I'm not long back from Manchester, great atmosphere in the daytime, bad result and the night was surreal.

[LOL @ Celtic]

Todd_is_God, on May 15 2008, 15:44, said:

The atmosphere in Bridgeton seemed fine tbh, surprisingly. Everyone seemed to have enjoyed themselves and weren't intent on causing bother.

Same as Manchester, and when the TV is on the blink for the biggest game of your life and a lot had been drinking since 10am it is going to equal trouble.

The GMP and the stewards couldn't handle it, we got caught up in the riot charge and had to duck out the way down a sidestreet.

[The Old Northerner]

Quote

and when the TV is on the blink for the biggest game of your life and a lot had been drinking since 10am

and are pond life

[Big_Andy]

Cannot believe the reports in the Sun this morning. According to them, it was all the fault of the polis!! They were too heavy handed! They have obviously not seen what I've seen simply by looking at this forum and the associated videos. f**k them, I'm no buying it again!

[Adolfo Rios]

IXI THE ONE IXI, on May 15 2008, 15:54, said:

Same as Manchester, and when the TV is on the blink for the biggest game of your life and a lot had been drinking since 10am it is going to equal trouble.

The GMP and the stewards couldn't handle it, we got caught up in the riot charge and had to duck out the way down a sidestreet.

Throwing stuff at the very people there to fix it isn't going to help though.

[H_B]

IXI THE ONE IXI, on May 15 2008, 15:54, said:

The GMP and the stewards couldn't handle it.

How would you suggest they go about dealing with a bottle throwing mob?

[Swampy]

Ric, on May 15 2008, 14:47, said:

It is, but it holds no reference to Rangers fans physically dragging a train driver out of his cab..

Yes, I noticed that.

[LOL @ Celtic]

Ron Burgundy, on May 15 2008, 15:03, said:

I think jester is a railway man..... I doubt he would lie about this.

Piccadily was an utter joke, there must have been a few hundred folk kipping on the freezing platform and station concourse and a 200 yards long that barely moved for 5 hours to get out of that shithole.

Not just pissed guys, mothers with kids as well and ordinary people trying to get home because the 'drivers and guards bailed'

The Transport Police were hilariously inept, one guy and 2 'community support officers' for a station the size of Piccadily, even the BTP guy said the station manager had gone into hiding

[Consolidate]

IXI THE ONE IXI, on May 15 2008, 15:54, said:

Same as Manchester, and when the TV is on the blink for the biggest game of your life and a lot had been drinking since 10am it is going to equal trouble.

The GMP and the stewards couldn't handle it, we got caught up in the riot charge and had to duck out the way down a sidestreet.

It's grim news indeed that mere riot police, standard GMP and stewards wasn't enough to control these animals.

This post has been edited by Consolidate: 15 May 2008 - 15:04

[LOL @ Celtic]

H_B, on May 15 2008, 15:58, said:

How would you suggest they go about dealing with a bottle throwing mob?

There wasn't one copper I saw on the high street post match, plenty of riot vans about 20 mins later though that were getting all their windows tanned.

They had all day to get the screens working, even ours kept freezing and cutting out and the sound going dropping.

The GMP officer boarded our train telling us all to get off and 'the city is trashed'

No taxi was allowed in or out and people pulling the emergency cord on the train and the trams were stopped as people were going to get knocked down by them.

Manchester didn't handle this at all well.

[LOL @ Celtic]

Consolidate, on May 15 2008, 16:03, said:

It's grim news indeed that mere riot police, standard GMP and stewards wasn't enough to control these animals.

They were reactive, not proactive.

Riot police turning up at Piccadily station at 3am isn't much use when at 11pm the place was in anarchy.

[Adolfo Rios]

IXI THE ONE IXI, on May 15 2008, 16:05, said:

There wasn't one copper I saw on the high street post match, plenty of riot vans about 20 mins later though that were getting all their windows tanned.

They had all day to get the screens working, even ours kept freezing and cutting out and the sound going dropping.

The GMP officer boarded our train telling us all to get off and 'the city is trashed'

No taxi was allowed in or out and people pulling the emergency cord on the train and the trams were stopped as people were going to get knocked down by them.

Manchester didn't handle this at all well.

So Manchester did it to itself?

[LOL @ Celtic]

Gypsy till I die, on May 15 2008, 15:57, said:

Throwing stuff at the very people there to fix it isn't going to help though.

I wasn't there I don't know, but I could believe it, there was folk chucking all sorts about.

They had all day to get it right though.

[Kaz]

jester, on May 15 2008, 15:03, said:

The source is the Network Rail control Log which is accessed internally only. Being Network Rail they won't even give all of us printers so we can't print off hard copies. I can, but I'm off for a week and I'm buggered if I'm going in to work for you.
I'll ask on one of the railway forums and see if anyone can come up with it.

Railway forum

IXI THE ONE IXI, on May 15 2008, 16:01, said:

Piccadily was an utter joke, there must have been a few hundred folk kipping on the freezing platform and station concourse and a 200 yards long that barely moved for 5 hours to get out of that shithole.

Not just pissed guys, mothers with kids as well and ordinary people trying to get home because the 'drivers and guards bailed'

The Transport Police were hilariously inept, one guy and 2 'community support officers' for a station the size of Piccadily, even the BTP guy said the station manager had gone into hiding

Maybe if your knobend fans weren't trying to kick anything that moved no one would have 'bailed' or 'gone into hiding'

[Adolfo Rios]

IXI THE ONE IXI, on May 15 2008, 16:09, said:

I wasn't there I don't know, but I could believe it, there was folk chucking all sorts about.

They had all day to get it right though.

That is true but a big telly working doesn't give anyone the right to beat up police officers etc.

[H_B]

IXI THE ONE IXI, on May 15 2008, 16:09, said:

I wasn't there I don't know, but I could believe it, there was folk chucking all sorts about.

They had all day to get it right though.

The bird from 5 Live claimed she was watching pictures on the screen up until about 6 pm.

Then messages appeared mentioning the other venues where the game could be watched. She did say the communication was poor concerning the screen being fecked.

[LOL @ Celtic]

Gypsy till I die, on May 15 2008, 16:07, said:

So Manchester did it to itself?

Well obviously the hooligans who did the damage are to blame for the situation they caused.

The screens though are the councils fault, the poor stewarding and Police presence is the GMP. People were walking in with carry out slabs, it was always going to end in disaster if they fucked up the screen.

[Ric]

The leader of the Manchester City council (Sir Richard Lees?) on 5Live was just on claiming that the TV screens were not to blame and based this on the screen going off at about 7:30 and the violence starting 3 hours later. He also claimed it was not football fans but instead a hardcore of football hooligans intent on starting something.

Not sure how well that ties up with the reports coming in live on the radio and online, mind.

[LOL @ Celtic]

Ric, on May 15 2008, 16:17, said:

The leader of the Manchester City council (Sir Richard Lees?) on 5Live was just on claiming that the TV screens were not to blame and based this on the screen going off at about 7:30 and the violence starting 3 hours later. He also claimed it was not football fans but instead a hardcore of football hooligans intent on starting something.

Not sure how well that ties up with the reports coming in live on the radio and online, mind.

The fans from Piccadily were left roaming about at kick off time and were fighting amongst themselves, come 10pm it went mental because these folk were already dispersed everywhere.

I met a guy from Brum who said he had to watch the game through a pub window on a 14" TV after the fanzone mess up.

The build up was fantastic and amazing weather, just a shame it got tarnished by some idiots.

[Ric]

IXI THE ONE IXI, on May 15 2008, 16:31, said:

I met a guy from Brum who said he had to watch the game through a pub window on a 14" TV after the fanzone mess up.

The BBC interviewed someone doing that very thing. Had his daughter with him. I think he was Scottish though.

IXI THE ONE IXI, on May 15 2008, 16:31, said:

The build up was fantastic and amazing weather, just a shame it got tarnished by some idiots.

To be honest? I really don't know what to make of it all. It's all still a bit knee-jerk just now. Either way it's a f*cking mess.