[Kayster]

Don't let your heart rule your head

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If you think something has a good chance, don't let other people put you of with their opinions

[Owsley]

uberman, on Jan 3 2008, 18:35, said:

One thing I have learned from gambling is to never bet on Liverpool as they are consistently shite and will always find a way of fucking your line
Nottingham Forest are also included in this system I have

Yes and yes, to my cost over past few weeks. Pals were denied £98 each thanks to Liverpool last night. I would also add never bet Stenhousemuir, it'll end in tears.

[dubs]

Yeah you could say that about a lot of teams in the bottom two leagues, I think the quality is so poor that basically anything can happen.

[Owsley]

To give a more serious reply, and in light of Haitch's plans on saturday, I would advise checking on team news as near to kick off as possible especially for FA Cup matches now that many sides see the league as more important. Norwich should beat Bury, I don't see them leaving themselves open to an embarrassment by playing reserves, however Fulham have lost at home to lower division opposition twice recently. I think Leyton Orient gubbed them. I admire Haitch's discipline but if you lose a bet like that it's going to take a while, assuming you continue to follow the same system, to get that money back.

[Richard_B]

Never listen to people on P&B saying the team they support is going to lose.

[mid-table]

Richard_B, on Jan 3 2008, 23:29, said:

Never listen to people on P&B saying the team they support is going to lose.

To a certain extent, but bear in mind such things like;
Has the poster got a track record for being volatile (it's either 'we'll hammer them' or it's 'we'll get gubbed')?
Has the poster taken into account the opposition?
Has the poster justified why they have that opinion?
Has the poster got any information available to them that is not generally known by the bookmaking industry (injuries etc), and how much do you trust that information?

[Whistle Blower]

Odds of 1.10 give you a return of 10%, and shouldn't be dismissed

[H_B]

Whistle Blower, on Jan 4 2008, 13:10, said:

Odds of 1.10 give you a return of 10%, and shouldn't be dismissed

Unless it's Betfair. And it won't.

[H_B]

Ron Burgundy, on Jan 4 2008, 13:46, said:

so they have added yet another layer of inconsistency to the betting world....clever folk these bookies.

They have a sliding scale of a "cut" based on how much business you do with them.

It's roughtly 3-4 % of each winning bet you have I think.

[Silvio]

I never understand why people back short prices/odds on favourites in dire races. You know, something like a seller at Southwell.

[SaltyTON]

Owsley, on Jan 3 2008, 18:53, said:

Yes and yes, to my cost over past few weeks. Pals were denied £98 each thanks to Liverpool last night. I would also add never bet Stenhousemuir, it'll end in tears.

Stenny won me £70 on Wednesday.

The axis of evil for me are Liverpool, Hull City and Wolverhampton Wanderers.

[Latino Lover]

SaltyTON, on Jan 4 2008, 14:38, said:

Stenny won me £70 on Wednesday.

The axis of evil for me are Liverpool, Hull City and Wolverhampton Wanderers.

Cardiff are the real enigma for me, also Southampton and Man City in previous years.

My tips are rather straight forward: Don't bet what you can't afford to lose or in the case of people with a large disposable income don't bet an amount that will cause upset and loss chasing.

Also always check the odds for the similar outcome in a different context for example if you were going to bet on a draw no bet check the Asian Handicap odds off scratch as well. Bet 365 will often have a team -0.5 on the Asian a good 20% better priced than on the 90 minutes betting.

Avoid scorecasts and section coupons, these are a rip off.

Also I've noticed on here putting accys on where the games lead into another day, personally I think this is naive as you could maybe collect a decent amount on the Sunday Morning and put on another bet if you wish rather than waiting for the Sunday 4pm game to bust your coupon (provided all your selections are up).

[McMuffin]

Latino Lover, on Jan 4 2008, 19:12, said:

Avoid scorecasts and section coupons, these are a rip off.

Also I've noticed on here putting accys on where the games lead into another day, personally I think this is naive as you could maybe collect a decent amount on the Sunday Morning and put on another bet if you wish rather than waiting for the Sunday 4pm game to bust your coupon (provided all your selections are up).

One of my mates who works in a bookies calls scorecasts "the bookie's friend".

And also your second point is the reason I stopped betting on any of the Friday games, as i'd find that if my coupon was burst after that i'd end up doing another coupon on the Saturday. Dangerous game, chasing losses. Best feeling when it comes off, the worst when it (usually) doesn't.

[mid-table]

I have to laugh when I see some of the scorecast prices, for example Ronaldo to score first and Man Utd to win 2-0, 20/1.
20/1 You will only give me 20/1 for something that in real terms is probably about 120/1.

Another rule I follow religiously;

Keep a record of your bets, or at the very least a Profit & Loss of your betting.

I could tell you for every day in the last 2 years how much I have won or lost from betting, poker, fruit machines, and games of chance. It's a real eye-opener and contributes to my resolution of not betting on fruit machines and games of chance any more.

[Latino Lover]

I used to keep records when I had about 8 different accounts two years ago however I can view all my bets online now but I suppose you only look at that when you want to whereas if you keep a diary of it you have to face the music. Think I may go back to doing this.

[H Wragg]

If you want to bet on a game finishing 0-0, do not do a 0-0 correct score bet. Instead, bet on 'no goalscorer' on the first scorer market. That way, if the game doesn't finish 0-0 but all goals in the game are own goals your bet is still a winner. (the odds for both bets are the same).

[JCBino]

Haitch, on Jan 3 2008, 17:00, said:

Sorry - I do not agree.

I think I have a better knowledge than the bookies when it comes to football betting. I will look through the full fixture list throughout England and Scotland and will pick my ONE bet for the day. This selection constitutes my main bet of the week. For example last night £100 on Blackburn to beat Sunderland @ 1.65. They won (albeit only just) and I walk away with £65 notes.

My selection boils down to who I think will win - nothing to do with the odds. The usual selection is between 1/3 to 1/1. I win on average 4 out of 5 bets. I am up over £500 this season by following this one tactic alone.

I agree with this.

Discipline being the key word in this type of betting. My mate puts on £100 on 1 single bet he fancies every week. He was up £1500 for last season and so far £400 for this season. Christ thats a part-time wage!!!

Unfortunatley I have no discipline and revert to tried and trusted accumulators and hail-mary's!!

[mid-table]

JCBino, on Jan 4 2008, 20:28, said:

Unfortunatley I have no discipline and revert to tried and trusted accumulators and hail-mary's!!

I like that phrase, I'll be nicking that from now on thanks.

[Owsley]

JCBino, on Jan 4 2008, 20:28, said:

I agree with this.

Discipline being the key word in this type of betting. My mate puts on £100 on 1 single bet he fancies every week. He was up £1500 for last season and so far £400 for this season. Christ thats a part-time wage!!!

Unfortunatley I have no discipline and revert to tried and trusted accumulators and hail-mary's!!

What I don't quite get is what if Sunderland had won, (they missed a penalty at 0-0), that's £100 away. Do you up the ante for the next bet or keep your discipline? I'm not doubting Haitch when he says he's £500 up this season but he has had some losses. I would be interested to know if they were losses on this scale. I'm not in this league sadly, don't know if the old ticker could stand it tbh....

Like mid-table I keep a record of every bet. Bloody depressing reading atm. A few seasons ago I won £1099 on ante posts but I have suffered for that good fortune ever since.

[smithers-jones]

Don't bet on FA Cup matches, stick with league games.

[H Wragg]

smithers-jones, on Jan 4 2008, 21:32, said:

Don't bet on FA Cup matches, stick with league games.

Don't even think about betting on Carling Cup games.

[iron mike python]

Ron Burgundy, on Jan 3 2008, 15:49, said:

stop telling everyone what you have won whilst omitting your losses.

There are less than 5 professional gamblers (so the bookies say) who make a living from punting and apparently they would not consider betting on football or hordse racing as you CANNOT beat the bookies in these two sports.

In short give it up as there is no system that can break the stranglehold bookies have to rape the dreamers of the world.

My mums cousin who came up from England spends his life following the horses round each meet gathering information off trainers and makes a living off this, I believe there must be more than 5 professional gamblers.

[iron mike python]

Is poker allowed in this section? If so, never raise from the small blind unless stealing, it will lead the big blind to eventually f**k up! P.s I've made 120 euros at poker tonight after winning 2 thirty people tourneys! Im so happy