[SaintSam]

A game in which both teams had chances. Dundee passed the ball a lot better than we did for long spells of the game. I think McInnes made a fundamental error in choosing to stick with his 4-3-3 formation. Dundee put in the best opposition performance of the season and with wide men as good as Gavin Sw**kie, a three man midfield was never going to work. I also thought McInnes' substitution of Liam Craig for a striker, effectively giving us a midfield of one youngster, one experienced but slow midfielder and one striker was barking mad.

In the end both teams had chances to score more goals but both teams only took one of those chances. Dundees a cracker coming from Kevin MacDonald and ours a tap in from Savo after a shot from McBreen bobbled through a group of players to Savo a few yards out. Samson could have arguably come out quicker but credit to Savo for finishing well. The bulk of the match was a dog eat dog midfield battle, and again McInnes' decision to play the midfield he played proved costly. A simple 4-4-2 would have been more effective.

A better point for us than for Dundee. I have to say, in the three times I've seen Dundee so far, they look like a better team than Hamilton.

This post has been edited by SaintSam: 02 January 2008 - 17:30

[Derry_boy]

A point was fair id say , we scored a fine goal from Mcdonald who helped himself to his 9th of the season, Sw**kie had a good chance so did Lyle and Robertson and Palenik

we never reely looked a threat going forward apart from Mcdonald

im annoyed about a decision mid-way through the 1st half, Mchale swung in the corner and palenik challenged with Main who caught the ball and walked atleast a yard into his own goal

all in all a good point away from home

This post has been edited by Derry_boy: 02 January 2008 - 17:49

[dee4life]

Dont think we played well enough to win and a draw was a fair result both teams had chances to win it but never mind,happy enough with a point and also happy we dont have to go to perth again,tough place to win at.In fairness to the players it didn,t look the best conditions for football but at least I got a good pie and bovril at the game at decent prices something not available at dens.

[Derry_boy]

Also a good crowd there again, 6057

2500 atleats must of been from us

[SaintSam]

Derry_boy, on Jan 2 2008, 17:44, said:

im annoyed about a decision mid-way through the 1st half, Mchale swung in the corner and palenik challenged with Main who caught the ball and walked atleast a yard into his own goal

I'm sure if the ball had then the Dundee players would have made something of it. From my point of view, the only people to grumble were Dundee fans. Main could clearly be seen holding the ball out infront of him so that it didn't cross the line, from where we were sitting.

Derry_boy, on Jan 2 2008, 17:56, said:

Also a good crowd there again, 6057

2500 atleats must of been from us

I think you brought slightly less this time than you did earlier in the season. There were gaps in both stands. Not large gaps, but still, I wouldn't be surprised if the figure was less than the 2,600 you brought for the previous match. No 3,000/3,500/4,000 as predicted.

[dee4life]

SaintSam, on Jan 2 2008, 18:01, said:

I'm sure if the ball had then the Dundee players would have made something of it. From my point of view, the only people to grumble were Dundee fans. Main could clearly be seen holding the ball out infront of him so that it didn't cross the line, from where we were sitting.



I think you brought slightly less this time than you did earlier in the season. There were gaps in both stands. Not large gaps, but still, I wouldn't be surprised if the figure was less than the 2,600 you brought for the previous match. No 3,000/3,500/4,000 as predicted.

Some saints fan on the we are perth sit said 1800 dundee fans and 4000 home fans,I think he has had to much bevvie at new year.No way we had under 2000 at the game,will be interested to see the official figures.

[SJFC1988]

2654

[Marc]

St Johnstone bust my coupon

P.S - McDonald scoring again!

[Bobby Cox]

Marc, on Jan 2 2008, 18:13, said:

P.S - McDonald scoring again!

I know, but it won't last forever: we need our strikers to start finding the net again.

[Derry_boy]

Marc, on Jan 2 2008, 18:13, said:

St Johnstone bust my coupon

P.S - McDonald scoring again!

Great finish Great player

[Captain_Sensible]

Its a shame that Derek McInnes has had to start his life as a manager with the mess that Owen Coyle left behind - particularly when you remember the amount of money that Coyle spent - and wasted.

I see that Burnley were humped again yesterday - their 6th successive game without a win. Owen Coyle has been found out to be the dreadful manager that I always said he was.

[Billy Budd]

SaintSam, on Jan 2 2008, 18:29, said:

A game in which both teams had chances. Dundee passed the ball a lot better than we did for long spells of the game. I think McInnes made a fundamental error in choosing to stick with his 4-3-3 formation. Dundee put in the best opposition performance of the season and with wide men as good as Gavin Sw**kie, a three man midfield was never going to work. I also thought McInnes' substitution of Liam Craig for a striker, effectively giving us a midfield of one youngster, one experienced but slow midfielder and one striker was barking mad.

In the end both teams had chances to score more goals but both teams only took one of those chances. Dundees a cracker coming from Kevin MacDonald and ours a tap in from Savo after a shot from McBreen bobbled through a group of players to Savo a few yards out. Samson could have arguably come out quicker but credit to Savo for finishing well. The bulk of the match was a dog eat dog midfield battle, and again McInnes' decision to play the midfield he played proved costly. A simple 4-4-2 would have been more effective.

A better point for us than for Dundee. I have to say, in the three times I've seen Dundee so far, they look like a better team than Hamilton.

Craig had been limping for a good while before he was subbed. I think the substitution shows the lack of depth in Saints midfield (ie we don't have anyone!!) more than any "barking mad-ness".

[Derry_boy]

Captain_Sensible, on Jan 2 2008, 20:14, said:

Its a shame that Derek McInnes has had to start his life as a manager with the mess that Owen Coyle left behind - particularly when you remember the amount of money that Coyle spent - and wasted.

I see that Burnley were humped again yesterday - their 6th successive game without a win. Owen Coyle has been found out to be the dreadful manager that I always said he was.

you been drinking ?

[Captain_Sensible]

Derry_boy, on Jan 2 2008, 20:18, said:

you been drinking ?

Why is your user name named after a sectarian organisation which is infamous for triggering the modern day troubles in Northern Ireland?

[Fife Saint]

Poor poor quality of football on show from both outfits. Another draw, another ridiculous choice of formation but again good mental strength to come back from a goal down. What happened to Rutkiewicz for the Dundee goal. Did Kev "Moons back pocket" McDonald foul him or did big Rusty's dodgy knee give way and presented them with a goal?

Looked a foul from my totally impartial and unbiased viewpoint

[Derry_boy]

Fife Saint, on Jan 2 2008, 20:21, said:

Poor poor quality of football on show from both outfits. Another draw, another ridiculous choice of formation but again good mental strength to come back from a goal down. What happened to Rutkiewicz for the Dundee goal. Did Kev "Moons back pocket" McDonald foul him or did big Rusty's dodgy knee give way and presented them with a goal?

Looked a foul from my totally impartial and unbiased viewpoint

ill be honest and there wasn't alot in it, either Mcdonald was too strong or Rutkiewicz was looking for the free kick, thought mcDonald was good today and showed why so many top teams are chasin him. Stanic was excellent again

[Derry_boy]

Captain_Sensible, on Jan 2 2008, 20:20, said:

Why is your user name named after a sectarian organisation which is infamous for triggering the modern day troubles in Northern Ireland?

its not fud

its named after the old stand inside dens

[alberto]

Derry_boy, on Jan 2 2008, 20:27, said:

its not fud

its named after the old stand inside dens

don't reply to that idiot, he's a total clown

[Fife Saint]

I was really chuffed with wee Kevin Moon when he came on. He was up against guys far more experienced than him and stood out.

Has to be said McDonald looked different gravy first half.

The chap who thought Main carried the ball "a yard over the goal line" had to have been sitting behind the goal. An excellent vantage point for goal line judgement.

[Nizzy]

Derry_boy, on Jan 2 2008, 20:27, said:

its not fud

its named after the old stand inside dens

I believe the chant is easy, easy, easy.

[Panmurefield Dee]

alberto, on Jan 2 2008, 20:30, said:

don't reply to that idiot, he's a total clown

Never a truer word spoken Alberto !!!!

Happy New Year to all P n B'rs

(with the exception of all who spout the "Dundee are sectarian" nonsense

[dee4life]

Fife Saint, on Jan 2 2008, 20:21, said:

Poor poor quality of football on show from both outfits. Another draw, another ridiculous choice of formation but again good mental strength to come back from a goal down. What happened to Rutkiewicz for the Dundee goal. Did Kev "Moons back pocket" McDonald foul him or did big Rusty's dodgy knee give way and presented them with a goal?

Looked a foul from my totally impartial and unbiased viewpoint

Great goal by Mcdonald it was no foul but he probably wouldna have scored it though if Kev "no good enough to start" moon was on the pitch at the time.

[Derry_boy]

Fife Saint, on Jan 2 2008, 20:30, said:

I was really chuffed with wee Kevin Moon when he came on. He was up against guys far more experienced than him and stood out.

Has to be said McDonald looked different gravy first half.

The chap who thought Main carried the ball "a yard over the goal line" had to have been sitting behind the goal. An excellent vantage point for goal line judgement.

the ball certainly crossed the line pal

McDonald plays the way he did today in every game , he must be the most consistent Dundee player ive seen

[dazzle-dfc]

1-0 up sat back and lost the lead terrible

someone needs to give Sw**kie a good hiding totall asshole

we could have won easily today

great goal from McDonald knew he was scoring the second he got the ball

[SJFC1988]

dee4life, on Jan 2 2008, 20:52, said:

Great goal by Mcdonald it was no foul but he probably wouldna have scored it though if Kev "no good enough to start" moon was on the pitch at the time.