Clyde Vs St. Johnstone
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Posted 27 December 2007 - 13:51
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I think we can win this one, if we have the same defencive performace as yesterday, and us doing something more better from midfield to forward. Swapping Arbuckle for McKenna would be a start, and possibly keep the 451.
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Posted 27 December 2007 - 20:04
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I'm putting my head on the block here and saying a Clyde win. Don't ask for a logical reason for this. I reserve the right to be miserable. Thank you.
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Posted 27 December 2007 - 20:22
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Fast_Action, on Dec 27 2007, 20:14, said:
Now don't be modest. You have been reading far too many of Radford's posts.
When was the last time we beat Clyde comfortably? I can't be arsed looking but it feels like years ago. Modesty is different from cynicism.
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Posted 27 December 2007 - 20:23
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I quite fancy us to win and drag St Johnstone firmly into the relegation battle
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I see they've been playing 433 recently, so we should be able to murder them on the break. Would be interesting if Dougie Imrie is available again to see if he comes back into the team.
I see they've been playing 433 recently, so we should be able to murder them on the break. Would be interesting if Dougie Imrie is available again to see if he comes back into the team.
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Posted 27 December 2007 - 20:28
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David W, on Dec 27 2007, 20:23, said:
I quite fancy us to win and drag St Johnstone firmly into the relegation battle
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It'll be more like the bloody Somme.
Still, the luvvies are just 4 points from the play-off under McCalls bandwagon.
We all live in hope that the weight will snap the wheels.
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Posted 27 December 2007 - 22:37
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This game has all the appeal of watching a fluffy kitten getting crushed by an HGV.
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Posted 27 December 2007 - 23:26
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Sorry, for some reason thought this game was after new year, so put in a load of pish about the possibility of Valentim, Bestvina and Wilson being out of contract, as well as Cardle and Kirkup returning back down south.
Its been a long day
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Posted 27 December 2007 - 23:43
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Like Tuesday, I would settle for a draw here. St Johnstone are underachieving, and have not quite got it together under McInnes as I thought that they might. They seem to be majoring in draws, though they did pump Livi last weekend.
If we can keep it tight at the back, we may take a point. Our problems scoring are well documented and I am not about to depress myself in re-visiting them.
How are things with Masty's fitness?
If we can keep it tight at the back, we may take a point. Our problems scoring are well documented and I am not about to depress myself in re-visiting them.
How are things with Masty's fitness?
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Posted 28 December 2007 - 01:20
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2-1
after clydes draw with hamilton i can see them beating st johnstone
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#13
Posted 28 December 2007 - 08:23
If we play like we did on Tuesday, only another display of inept finishing will save us. The defence was opened up too easily towards the end of the game as we pushed forward looking for a win. McInnes has said all the right things and been very un-Coyle like in the aftermath, almost verging on being critical of the players. He's said how Clyde will be even more high-energy than Albion and we need to be prepared to match that before we can play like we did against Livingston.
We never play well at Broadwood - or in fact against Clyde - and far too often lose our discipline so it's impossible to go into the game with much confidence, especially after our strikers mis-fired during the week and we are now facing a more solid backline. The one saving grace could be that Clyde find goals hard to come by but whilst I thought the midweek game would be high-scoring (albeit I was wrong), this one has low-scoring written all over it.
The manager has hinted at making changes - and one might be enforced if Quinn fails to recover from his ankle knock - but I don't think he'll vary too much from the weekend, although may change the shape of the side to include Rutkiewicz again.
Last season, although the away record was poor, the performances weren't disappointing but this time round we aren't winning on the road and aren't playing well enough consistently either. Wednesday was a great chance to try and kick-start that away momentum but I can't see it happening on Saturday. It would be nice for once though if post-match at Broadwood, the main talking point wasn't the referee.
We never play well at Broadwood - or in fact against Clyde - and far too often lose our discipline so it's impossible to go into the game with much confidence, especially after our strikers mis-fired during the week and we are now facing a more solid backline. The one saving grace could be that Clyde find goals hard to come by but whilst I thought the midweek game would be high-scoring (albeit I was wrong), this one has low-scoring written all over it.
The manager has hinted at making changes - and one might be enforced if Quinn fails to recover from his ankle knock - but I don't think he'll vary too much from the weekend, although may change the shape of the side to include Rutkiewicz again.
Last season, although the away record was poor, the performances weren't disappointing but this time round we aren't winning on the road and aren't playing well enough consistently either. Wednesday was a great chance to try and kick-start that away momentum but I can't see it happening on Saturday. It would be nice for once though if post-match at Broadwood, the main talking point wasn't the referee.
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Posted 28 December 2007 - 13:21
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Radford, on Dec 28 2007, 08:23, said:
It would be nice for once though if post-match at Broadwood, the main talking point wasn't the referee.
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Posted 28 December 2007 - 15:58
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OK, take 2 - less sleepy this time.
I for one, would not retain the 4-5-1, as it is only really for when we are likely to face slaughter down the wings, and St. Johnstone ain't exactly Barca in any department right now.
While going to a back 3 may be harsh on Bestvina (who did well v Hamilton). We find it hard enough to score with 2 "strikers", never mind 1, and dropping him is the only way to accomodate them.
I genuinely thought Imrie was suspended for 3 games - but the suspension list shows one game from 21/12, which has been served, so I guess he's available.
Injury worries - Masterton may not be fit yet, Valentim may still be injured, and obviously long-term absetee Ryan Wilkie. Cardle was on the bench, so I'm assuming he's OK now and would take Bradleys place, as he looked a little bit overwhelmed on Wed.
I personally would rest Wilson for this one if Masterton is fit, he's getting on in years and looked a bit tired v Hamilton.
Hutton
McKeown McGregor Higgins
M.McGowan . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Cardle
Masterton RuariMacL Smith
McKenna Imrie
I for one, would not retain the 4-5-1, as it is only really for when we are likely to face slaughter down the wings, and St. Johnstone ain't exactly Barca in any department right now.
While going to a back 3 may be harsh on Bestvina (who did well v Hamilton). We find it hard enough to score with 2 "strikers", never mind 1, and dropping him is the only way to accomodate them.
I genuinely thought Imrie was suspended for 3 games - but the suspension list shows one game from 21/12, which has been served, so I guess he's available.
Injury worries - Masterton may not be fit yet, Valentim may still be injured, and obviously long-term absetee Ryan Wilkie. Cardle was on the bench, so I'm assuming he's OK now and would take Bradleys place, as he looked a little bit overwhelmed on Wed.
I personally would rest Wilson for this one if Masterton is fit, he's getting on in years and looked a bit tired v Hamilton.
Hutton
McKeown McGregor Higgins
M.McGowan . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Cardle
Masterton RuariMacL Smith
McKenna Imrie
Subs: Cherrie, Bestvina, Wilson, Valentim, Bradley
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Posted 28 December 2007 - 16:02
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Radford, on Dec 28 2007, 08:23, said:
The manager has hinted at making changes - and one might be enforced if Quinn fails to recover from his ankle knock - but I don't think he'll vary too much from the weekend, although may change the shape of the side to include Rutkiewicz again.
For what it's worth Radders, following up from your question yesterday, the Disciplinary List came in this morning. The only player in the entire SFL1 with an outstanding first team suspension is Kevin Finlayson of Morton.
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Posted 28 December 2007 - 17:07
Skyline Drifter, on Dec 28 2007, 16:02, said:
For what it's worth Radders, following up from your question yesterday, the Disciplinary List came in this morning. The only player in the entire SFL1 with an outstanding first team suspension is Kevin Finlayson of Morton.
Scunnered if I know how it all works then. Imrie had a two game suspension to be served fourteen days after he went through the points barrier. In the intervening week, he picks up a red card so surely the two game ban for points has one game added to it because a red means the player automatically misses the next game? Technically, if a player has a points suspension, he can go out and deck whoever he likes the following week as it won't affect the number of games he misses!
Regards the team, McInnes has again reiterated that he might freshen things up a bit, although he's also taken time out to praise Andy Jackson, so that makes me think he'll stick with the three-pronged attack.
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Posted 28 December 2007 - 17:30
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Radford, on Dec 28 2007, 17:07, said:
Scunnered if I know how it all works then. Imrie had a two game suspension to be served fourteen days after he went through the points barrier. In the intervening week, he picks up a red card so surely the two game ban for points has one game added to it because a red means the player automatically misses the next game? Technically, if a player has a points suspension, he can go out and deck whoever he likes the following week as it won't affect the number of games he misses!
Mmm interesting.
I've just taken a look back at the Disciplinary Reports over the last few weeks.
On 1st December, playing against us, Dougie Imrie picked up a booking that earned him a two match suspension to be served from December 15th.
On December 8th, playing against Dunfermline, he picked up a red card and got a one match immediate automatic suspension, which should in theory have been served immediately I think and therefore delayed the imposition of the two match suspension already in place. However, the total outstanding suspension list for him still only said two matches.
He then missed the matches at home to Lvingston on the 15th and away to Hamilton on the 26th. Clyde's game against Stirling Albion on the 22nd was postponed.
This week's list does not mention any outstanding suspension.
These lists aren't infallible. There's been mistakes in them before. I noticed one last season. It could be that whoever produced the list didn't notice the Stirling game was off but then that still wouldn't make sense in that the list following games on Dec 8th showed him as having one further match but didn't increase the total. Looks like that's an error. Either that or as you say, the one match suspension for the sending off managed to run concurrently with the two match suspension he had anyway which makes no sense at all.
If I were Clyde I'd be checking this before they rely on his availability for this weekend's game. Like I say, the published lists aren't infallible and have been wrong before. The gospel is the written report mailed to the clubs so Clyde will know the score.
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Posted 28 December 2007 - 17:34
Skyline Drifter, on Dec 28 2007, 17:30, said:
If I were Clyde I'd be checking this before they rely on his availability for this weekend's game. Like I say, the published lists aren't infallible and have been wrong before. The gospel is the written report mailed to the clubs so Clyde will know the score.
Clyde would never play an ineligible player!
Confusion seems to be cleared up though as the Clyde Offical Site says he will serve the last game of his ban tomorrow and that Masterton is injured. Good news for Saints as they are two players who always pose us problems.
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Posted 28 December 2007 - 19:41
Saints' fans may or may not be interested to know that this match has been classed as a 'Category B' fixture.
This, in effect, means that the St.Johnstone following will be seated in the main stand along with the Clyde support.
This, in effect, means that the St.Johnstone following will be seated in the main stand along with the Clyde support.
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Posted 28 December 2007 - 20:01
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São Paulo, on Dec 28 2007, 19:41, said:
Saints' fans may or may not be interested to know that this match has been classed as a 'Category B' fixture.
This, in effect, means that the St.Johnstone following will be seated in the main stand along with the Clyde support.
This, in effect, means that the St.Johnstone following will be seated in the main stand along with the Clyde support.
I am not going tommorrow as i am working but i will toot the horn on my way to Kirky. Listen out for a monotone rendition of "when the saints go marching in" echoing up from main road about half 3.
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Posted 28 December 2007 - 20:33
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[quote name='ochil-clyde' date='Dec 28 2007, 15:58' post='2089098'
Injury worries - Masterton may not be fit yet, Valentim may still be injured, and obviously long-term absetee Ryan Wilkie. Cardle was on the bench, so I'm assuming he's OK now and would take Bradleys place, as he looked a little bit overwhelmed on Wed.
Where you at the same game as me on wednesday? I thought Taz had a great game against Accies, possibly his best in a Clyde shirt
I personally would rest Wilson for this one if Masterton is fit, he's getting on in years and looked a bit tired v Hamilton.
I am glad to see on the OS Masterton is still injured, other than a few goals from freekicks earlier in the season he has contributed very little. It is maybe about time he got off his arse and lost a couple of stone, maybe then we will start to see some of the form he showed last season
Injury worries - Masterton may not be fit yet, Valentim may still be injured, and obviously long-term absetee Ryan Wilkie. Cardle was on the bench, so I'm assuming he's OK now and would take Bradleys place, as he looked a little bit overwhelmed on Wed.
Where you at the same game as me on wednesday? I thought Taz had a great game against Accies, possibly his best in a Clyde shirt
I personally would rest Wilson for this one if Masterton is fit, he's getting on in years and looked a bit tired v Hamilton.
I am glad to see on the OS Masterton is still injured, other than a few goals from freekicks earlier in the season he has contributed very little. It is maybe about time he got off his arse and lost a couple of stone, maybe then we will start to see some of the form he showed last season
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Posted 28 December 2007 - 21:52
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Pride Of The Clyde, on Dec 28 2007, 20:33, said:
Where you at the same game as me on wednesday? I thought Taz had a great game against Accies, possibly his best in a Clyde shirt
I am glad to see on the OS Masterton is still injured, other than a few goals from freekicks earlier in the season he has contributed very little. It is maybe about time he got off his arse and lost a couple of stone, maybe then we will start to see some of the form he showed last season
I am glad to see on the OS Masterton is still injured, other than a few goals from freekicks earlier in the season he has contributed very little. It is maybe about time he got off his arse and lost a couple of stone, maybe then we will start to see some of the form he showed last season
Did you see how many times Taz was caught out of poistion and whoever was playing right wing for Accies got a free run at Higgins, thank f'k Higgy is awesome eh?
Masterton hasn't been good in open play this year, but he's still better than an exhausted Wilson.
Disappointed, but not really surprised that Imrie is suspended, it just means that Bradley, Arbuckle or maybe even Valentim might get a game they wouldn't of.
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Posted 28 December 2007 - 21:57
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OC - you're talking complete nonsense regarding Bradley; he was excellent on Wednesday and deserves his place in the team tomorrow.
It's an interesting one as with St Johnstone normally playing 433, we'll need to stick to a back four. In saying that though, I don't like us playing 1 up front at home, so something will have to change in midfield - maybe a 352 like normal, only with McGowan a lot deeper defensively than usual so it's basically a back four when we're defending.
It's an interesting one as with St Johnstone normally playing 433, we'll need to stick to a back four. In saying that though, I don't like us playing 1 up front at home, so something will have to change in midfield - maybe a 352 like normal, only with McGowan a lot deeper defensively than usual so it's basically a back four when we're defending.
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