[Skyline Drifter]

Fife Saint, on Dec 15 2007, 20:42, said:

That side of him hasn't diminished. When it comes to shot stopping he's normally top notch. His general positioning and distribution has been rank though.

It was last year with Gretna too though. I still think, as I thought then, that bringing him back as a first team keeper was a bizarre thing to have done.

[Owsley]

Can't agree with Ye Olde's comments about Offiong. I felt he ran about all afternoon, chasing and harrying, but he has no support up front. He can only do so much with those high balls if there's nobody behind to receive the flick on, or if the support from midfield is not there. I wouldn't be surprised if he wanted away because he cuts a disconsolte figure at times.

Mensing could easily have been sent off for tugging MacDonald's shirt as he burst past him after his booking. The ref clearly didn't see it, may even have been a penalty. Also felt Wake may have handled or armed the ball from a corner late in the game.

For all that Saints had most of the ball, Halliwell only really had the one save, and what a save! We had Winters scorching shot, Graham's great piece of skill and a fine save, Wake narrowly missing McCarthy's stab across goal after a great move and the comic cuts attempt that I can't even remember now but almost went in off a prostrate defender.

I think it must be two horse race now. We have Elebert back with the magnificent McLaughlin but we need more bodies in. Whether Graham will be one is up for debate but I thought he looked good when he had the ball but that wasn't often, in fact in spells it was a struggle for any Accies player to see much of the ball.

I think we may have lost that game or at least failed to win if Deuchar was still there. Excellent midfield but too small and light up front, especially against our bulky defenders.

[academical]

Professional job from Accies.

Got the lead. Held onto it.

We could have played all day and our so-called bogey team wouldn't have scored.

Bottom line is we played well within ourselves (you could even say it wasn't a very good day for us) and still won.

Just how long is this X factor programme that apparentely stops Saint Sam from posting? How "easy easy" was it today?

[stepek 4 tellys]

Too many Accies posters giving Saints too much credit!! They were crap!! They went down far too easily and were moaning at the ref all day . I gave them a lot of credit last year but they are a shadow of the team they were last year. Great win for Accies today and I thought young James was outstanding today. Big Wake also deserves a mention, he came on and really rumbled up the saints defence. Onwards and upwards!!

[josecomehome]

stepek 4 tellys, on Dec 15 2007, 22:25, said:

Too many Accies posters giving Saints too much credit!! They were crap!! They went down far too easily and were moaning at the ref all day . I gave them a lot of credit last year but they are a shadow of the team they were last year. Great win for Accies today and I thought young James was outstanding today. Big Wake also deserves a mention, he came on and really rumbled up the saints defence. Onwards and upwards!!

They kept the ball well at times but their centre forwards never got a sniff.

Radford is right actually. Mensing was poor in defence but is a good passer and strong runner. That's what I liked about him. Although these attributes would probably be better used in midfield, he wouldn't strengthen that area for Accies.

What was the booing of Halliwell all about? Quinn jumped at him with his foot raised. He was rightly booked. Then Halliwell was booed.

Strange.

This post has been edited by josecomehome: 15 December 2007 - 22:41

[Fife Saint]

I think some people felt it was a fair challenge on the keeper. I also believe it happened shortly after one of Mensings assaults which dsome people may have felt was worth a 2nd yellow which made the booking even more galling.

I wasn't there so im only surmising.

[stepek 4 tellys]

Saint Sam,Saint Sam,come out, come out, wherever you are!

[josecomehome]

Fife Saint, on Dec 15 2007, 22:51, said:

I think some people felt it was a fair challenge on the keeper. I also believe it happened shortly after one of Mensings assaults which dsome people may have felt was worth a 2nd yellow which made the booking even more galling.

I wasn't there so im only surmising.

Also, Mensings booking came after a clear free-kick Hamilton's way that wasn't given. The ref was poor. It felt like he was giving everything St. Johnstone's way. However, right at the end he gave Hamilton a few dodgy decisions as well. Just a bad ref. Swings and roundabouts.

[Fife Saint]

josecomehome, on Dec 15 2007, 23:38, said:

Also, Mensings booking came after a clear free-kick Hamilton's way that wasn't given. The ref was poor. It felt like he was giving everything St. Johnstone's way. However, right at the end he gave Hamilton a few dodgy decisions as well. Just a bad ref. Swings and roundabouts.

I'm not making excuses mate i'm just telling you why people might have been booing.


Your right though. Every game is turning into a lottery with the decisions the officials are making. I agree with you its the same old story. A paedo's guide. Swings and roundabouts.

[Radford]

Hamilton - with Elebert and McLaughlin fit anyway - are superb defensively and that is what limited us today, rather than us being "crap" as one poster puts it. Accies defence was better than our attack, it doesn't mean it was "crap". I thought our defence did alright as it happens as well. Obviously we were stretched a bit when we were chasing the game but for the large majority of the game, both sides struggled to break down the other. Despite that, I still thought it was a decent and enjoyable game.

Still think Badger's Apprentice was at a different game but most Accies fans have been very fair with their analysis - their side as a whole maybe didn't need to reach their peak but their defence had to be on top form.

As for Halliwell, what a meal he made of the "challenge" from Rocco. That's why he was booed, for pretending he'd been shoot when he was barely touched.

[Fife Saint]

What is the proper past tense for someone who the crowd boo. Is it "booed" or "boo'd".

These are the key points i have drawn from todays events.

[josecomehome]

Fife Saint, on Dec 16 2007, 00:01, said:

I'm not making excuses mate i'm just telling you why people might have been booing.


Your right though. Every game is turning into a lottery with the decisions the officials are making. I agree with you its the same old story. A paedo's guide. Swings and roundabouts.

I know you weren't at the game and weren't making excuses. I was trying to let you know what else happenned with the game.

Today is probably the only day where we have got more than we deserved. Against Queens and Dundee we probably got less than what we deserved. We're due another "lucky" result now to balance things up.

[accies]

I thought it was a rather fair match. Both teams having chances, although in the second we could have killed the game after numerous clear cut chances, which is something we really need to sort out! Our defence was solid, but when we pushed foward we looked a rather bland. But im very pleased with the result and the 3 points, and i now think its a 2 horse race for promotion, as i dont Partick or St J making up the lost ground.

This post has been edited by accies: 16 December 2007 - 01:38

[josecomehome]

Radford, on Dec 16 2007, 00:40, said:

Hamilton - with Elebert and McLaughlin fit anyway - are superb defensively and that is what limited us today, rather than us being "crap" as one poster puts it. Accies defence was better than our attack, it doesn't mean it was "crap". I thought our defence did alright as it happens as well. Obviously we were stretched a bit when we were chasing the game but for the large majority of the game, both sides struggled to break down the other. Despite that, I still thought it was a decent and enjoyable game.

Still think Badger's Apprentice was at a different game but most Accies fans have been very fair with their analysis - their side as a whole maybe didn't need to reach their peak but their defence had to be on top form.

As for Halliwell, what a meal he made of the "challenge" from Rocco. That's why he was booed, for pretending he'd been shoot when he was barely touched.

To be fair- he wasn't exactly rolling around and didn't indicate to the ref that he wanted the player booked or red-carded. He had jumped reasonably high and may have landed awkwardly. He was caught as well and it was a high and perhaps "over the top" challenge. Thought the booing was a bit harsh.
There are a couple of St. Johnstone players who like to "make a meal" of things as well. Particularly MacDonald. Although, i wouldn't say it's that bad in Accies or St.Johnstone.

Badger's Apprentice must have slept through the match if he was there. We had one attack in the first half and scored. Hardly controlling it!!

[badgers apprentice]

josecomehome, on Dec 16 2007, 01:29, said:

To be fair- he wasn't exactly rolling around and didn't indicate to the ref that he wanted the player booked or red-carded. He had jumped reasonably high and may have landed awkwardly. He was caught as well and it was a high and perhaps "over the top" challenge. Thought the booing was a bit harsh.
There are a couple of St. Johnstone players who like to "make a meal" of things as well. Particularly MacDonald. Although, i wouldn't say it's that bad in Accies or St.Johnstone.

Badger's Apprentice must have slept through the match if he was there. We had one attack in the first half and scored. Hardly controlling it!!

zzzzzzzzz now wheres that second half are you telling me we were not by far the best team in that first half? even if we probably did have more chances in the second, did we not try to attack more in the first half? cause we certainly did not in the second, it was boring backs to the wall stuff and hitting on the break and you have to appreciate that with the end result and if saintees had equilised we would be slating the badger for such negetive tactics on our own patch.

This post has been edited by badgers apprentice: 16 December 2007 - 02:28

[Radford]

badgers apprentice, on Dec 16 2007, 02:18, said:

are you telling me we were not by far the best team in that first half?

You weren't there, were you?

[Marching in Flipflops]

badgers apprentice, on Dec 16 2007, 02:18, said:

are you telling me we were not by far the best team in that first half?

We hardly got out of our own half!

Stop making a fool of yourself.

[josecomehome]

badgers apprentice, on Dec 16 2007, 02:18, said:

zzzzzzzzz now wheres that second half are you telling me we were not by far the best team in that first half? even if we probably did have more chances in the second, did we not try to attack more in the first half? cause we certainly did not in the second, it was boring backs to the wall stuff and hitting on the break and you have to appreciate that with the end result and if saintees had equilised we would be slating the badger for such negetive tactics on our own patch.

Badger changed things just in time in the second half and saved the day so all Accies are happy.

We've played (a lot) better and lost this season.

[josecomehome]

Marching in Flipflops, on Dec 16 2007, 09:29, said:

We hardly got out of our own half!

Stop making a fool of yourself.

Seconded.

[OneJamesMcCarthy]

Did anyone else see 1 of Stuart Taylor's crutches enter the field of play in the 2nd half??

[Nizzy]

Radford, on Dec 16 2007, 00:40, said:

As for Halliwell, what a meal he made of the "challenge" from Rocco.

I don't think for a second that Rocco Quinn is capable of putting a dirty, or even hard, challenge in on anyone. The boy's a fairy.

Oh, and Halliwell's antics are legendary.

[Super_J]

Nizzy, on Dec 16 2007, 11:44, said:

I don't think for a second that Rocco Quinn is capable of putting a dirty, or even hard, challenge in on anyone. The boy's a fairy.

Oh, and Halliwell's antics are legendary.

I think Quinn's challenge was fair an he was entitled to go for it. It was 'Dida' Halliwell's reaction folk were annoyed about, he got up and played the rest of the game fine, he was clearly feigning injury which suggests to me he was tryin to get Quinn booked.

We were so poor yesterday and the league is defo over for us. A wee run in the Scottish cup is about all we have to look forward to. Stanic was very poor, i don't think i've ever seen him so bad. Main at fault agen and could have lost us at least 1 more when he sort of ran past the ball an let their boy hav a shot at an empty net, cant remember who it was who got in and cleared it off the line.

Only positive from today was McDonald's trickery which excited me quite a bit!

[Owsley]

I don't think I've ever read such a bizarre summation as of that by badger's apprentice. We did very little in attacking terms in the first half, the midfield failed completely to get a grip of the game with McArthur in particular anonymous. Saints controlled most of the game, we came into it in spells in the second and certainly created the better chances, I'll give you that. We had our best period when they went all guns blazing with 4 up and left gaps.

The game was a bit like our defeat at Dens, we had more possession with little punch and they came more into it towards the end. Even the goal times were almost identical, 11 mins and 12 mins.

[Tubbs]

The bottom line is Accies got themselves well in front of St J in terms of points and then got a goal in front. St J were always going to come at us in the second half and they did. We limited them to one decent chance thro superb defending and we looked more like scoring. It was game we had to win, it was a game St J had to win and that is why i think we done well to limit a good team to very few chances.

Halliwell made a meal of it the way the guy did when he ran into Mensing, it happens and it gave St J something to get excited about.