[Gartleahill]

Indeed we got three points but we were absolute kak today. Why the hell did KB substitute Noble today he was probably our best player. Looked like the players were told to sit deep in the second half and keep possession trouble was we couldn't keep possession We looked reluctant to move forward. There was quite a few boos at the end from the Airdrie support.

[Angerfist]

Airdrie in go 1 up and sit in shocker!

This post has been edited by MonTheRovers!!: 03 November 2007 - 18:32

[nick cash]

booing fans,you're not allowed to be disrespectful to the manager, he'll go in another cream puff

[Ziggy]

Gartleahill, on Nov 3 2007, 18:30, said:

Indeed we got three points but we were absolute kak today. Why the hell did KB substitute Noble today he was probably our best player. Looked like the players were told to sit deep in the second half and keep possession trouble was we couldn't keep possession We looked reluctant to move forward. There was quite a few boos at the end from the Airdrie support.

At the risk of sounding like a sore loser........I thought Airdrie were kak today as well. I think you did sit deep when you went ahead, but it worked. I cant remember us having that many chances. Thought you also tried to waste time alot.

I think we played the better football but it all counts for f**k all if you don't score. We really need a striker.

Who is your big number 6? He looked like a big physical centre half but his touch and distribution is about the worst I've seen this season. Did he just have a bad day or is he always like that?

Ps. how many times did your striker skin the defender just before squaring the ball for the goal?

Looked like a big away support today. Its a shame that they put you at the other end of the stand. Better atmosphere when opposing fans are closer together.

[no1diamond]

Thats the first time i've seen airdrie in a while. Not amused, don't know how long it will be before i will see them again. Not entertaining at all

[an86]

Cant say I agree with Ziggy, I thought we were utterly dreadful today- the worst we've been at home all season including Raith putting 5 past us. We lacked imagination and looked totally lethergic at times. No-one seems able to unlock defences at the moment. I think Canning and Dunn will form a good partnership when Dunn returns so hopefully that will sort things out- I haven't been impressed at all with McGrady, any time I have seen him he looks somewhat off the pace at this level. Airdrie were only marginally less dreadful, I expected a bigger support through from them and they made no noise whatsoever, at least they were consistent when they scored- they didn't sing then either. In short- a total baws afternoon.

PS- Hi Watty

This post has been edited by an86: 03 November 2007 - 19:58

[thediamonddude]

That was easily one of the worst first halves I've ever witnessed in my 13 or so years watching Airdrie, we were poor so were Queens Park and it just looked as though it was going to be one of those days.

The tactics at the start seemed simple, get the ball to Noble and Russell and pray they did something between them. We played nice passing football at time but again we had no bite where it really counted. First half saw McDonald go close with a decent drive from outside the box but that was our only real chance of note other than the goal. Good ball through from Waddell (only thing he did all day) and Stuart Noble skinned the defender inside out before putting a good ball across for Russell to tap in.

I actually thought getting that goal would spur us on to kill the game off in the 2nd half, especially after all Kenny's comments about how we can't keep sitting in and defending 1 goal leads. Boy was I wrong.

Second half we were dreadful, we looked fresh out of ideas for most of the half. Had a couple of decent chances with Noble firing wide and K-Mac having another decent effort just go wide but we were in large, utterly gash.

Queens Park had a lot of possession but apart from a good shot that Robbo tipped round the post and a couple of tame efforts straight at him I didn't think they were a big goal threat.

What winds me up is the tactics, don't get me wrong, I'm delighted with the 3 points but any other side who had a prolific striker or goalscorer would have buried us in that second half today. KB takes off our best player, brings on Bryan Prunty and leave him up front himself? We should have still been attacking with 20 mins to go but we just shut up shop.

As for some of the individual performances, only 2 were out and out crap for me and that was Paul Lovering and Ricky Waddell, we were completely innefectual down the left hand side today and it was their fault. But does Kenny take them off? No he leaves them on for the full 90 mins.

Anyway, I dunno what to think tonight, we won ugly and I know you have to do that sometimes but we could have made it so much easier on ourselves which is what I don't understand. Considering how we played its 3 points stolen for me but I'll take it as we really need to get out of this league.

On a bright note I thought that Noble, Russell, McDonald and Smyth all had excellent games today. We really have the players but if they ain't given the right tactics then we are gonna suffer this season. Lets be a bit more positive next week against County eh?

This post has been edited by thediamonddude: 03 November 2007 - 21:12

[WattyArnott]

an86, on Nov 3 2007, 19:57, said:

PS- Hi Watty

Hi pumpkin

One winfrom 10 games. Shocker. And feck all against the mighty diamonds.

what a pishy wee team of squatters QP are!

[Spiders For Life]

an86, on Nov 3 2007, 19:57, said:

Cant say I agree with Ziggy, I thought we were utterly dreadful today- the worst we've been at home all season including Raith putting 5 past us. We lacked imagination and looked totally lethergic at times. No-one seems able to unlock defences at the moment. I think Canning and Dunn will form a good partnership when Dunn returns so hopefully that will sort things out- I haven't been impressed at all with McGrady, any time I have seen him he looks somewhat off the pace at this level. Airdrie were only marginally less dreadful, I expected a bigger support through from them and they made no noise whatsoever, at least they were consistent when they scored- they didn't sing then either. In short- a total baws afternoon.

PS- Hi Watty

Meh, our passing was good but yet again, we cant finish a thing. McGrady obviously can't cut it and why Stark keeps playing him I have no idea, short of players yes but surely we have something better...Colquhoun? (Sp..)
Airdrie were poor to be honest but all credit to them as they had a chance and they took it.
Stark really has to get someone on loan or something, what we have upfront right now is no where near what we need. Even when Dunn returns I seriously doubt that it will have a massive impact...
I don't really have any criticisms for the defence or midfield, Paton was good as usual and trouten was causing all sorts of problems...yet, as said above, build up play means nothing if you canne finish a thing

[WattyArnott]

Spiders For Life, on Nov 3 2007, 21:29, said:

Meh, our passing was good but yet again, we cant finish a thing. McGrady obviously can't cut it and why Stark keeps playing him I have no idea, short of players yes but surely we have something better...Colquhoun? (Sp..)
Airdrie were poor to be honest but all credit to them as they had a chance and they took it.
Stark really has to get someone on loan or something, what we have upfront right now is no where near what we need. Even when Dunn returns I seriously doubt that it will have a massive impact...
I don't really have any criticisms for the defence or midfield, Paton was good as usual and trouten was causing all sorts of problems...yet, as said above, build up play means nothing if you canne finish a thing

Lets all laugh at the parasites

[agd]

i thought it was a poor game, and probably queens deserved at least a point. who cares, we won ugly, as they say, and having seen all the 2nd division teams play us so far, queens are no where near the worst...i felt that we were a wee bit in awe of playing at the national stadium..but having never seen airdrie play QP there, (i did see us play at lesser hampden) it's surreal watching a game at hampden wanting the away team to win!! not having a ticket for the italy game, i am now hiding away in a secure location within the bowels of hampden, with only left over pies and cold bovril for nourishment until a week on saturday. STOWAWAY...

[staggy4life]

i wasnt confident going into next saturdays game at airdrie but reading some of the match reports on your game makes me abit more optimistic. B)

[thediamonddude]

staggy4life, on Nov 4 2007, 12:11, said:

i wasnt confident going into next saturdays game at airdrie but reading some of the match reports on your game makes me abit more optimistic. B)

Don't get me wrong I believe we are more than capable of beating you lot next week, especially since we are at home and haven't lost there since the opening day. However, if we play like we did on Saturday we could be on the recieving end of a right pumping next week. I think we'll be seeing a very different Airdrie side though as KB will be desperate to prove a lot of people wrong next week.

As for McDougall Ron, he was still injured yesterday. They gave him a late fitness test but he just wasn't ready to come back. I agree though, when he's fit the guy really needs a start. Waddell shouldn't have stayed on the park for so long yesterday, it really should have been Homer on the left.

Next week, assuming everyone's fit, my midfield would be Holmes on the left, McDougall on the right with McKeown and McDonald in the middle.

[wearealldoomed]

That was fucking crud. Excuse the language.

A win's a win, but the abuse levelled at Black after the final whist'e tells it's own story.

In the first half, I thought we were the better team, however in keeping with the last couple of seasons' play, we seemed to want to walk the ball into the net. The second half was an utter scandal though.

It appeared to me that we were instructed to sit deep and close the game out, but all that resulted from this was nearly constant Queen's pressure. For all that, Queen's pre-occupation with playing pretty patterns in a similar manner to Airdrie limited them to a couple of clear cut chances. Fortunately, Robertson was up to the job.

The most worrying aspect of that pish for me was the lack of dig. Many times, we hat decent opportunities to break yet slowed the game down to snail's pace with square passes, allowing Queen's to gat players behind the ball. If there was a bit more agression and directness about our play, our strikers could tear most defences in ths league to pieces.

Get Black to feck now, and send Lovering and MacDonald with him.

[Andyboy]

Despite Airdrie being pretty poor, we were awful as well. Lots of pretty tippy-tappy stuff in the middle of the park and no bite whatsoever. McGrady didn't really get involved in the game and while Stephen Canning will try his heart out, without someone up alongside him who is going to create things, he won't have too many chances at building on his impressive early season goal scoring record.

The goal we lost was shambolic as well, the Airdrie winger skinned Agostini inside and out and the guy in the middle had all the space in the world to hammer the ball past Cairnsy. Stark brought on Big Paul Ronald at half time and instead of sticking him up front to partner Stevie, he puts him in defensive midfield, a bizzare decision in my book. I can only remember one real chance for us, and it was a great save from the keeper to stop Canning from netting near the end.

We desperately need a proper striker. We don't have a real goalscorer in the team.

[++Ammo - Airdrie++]

wearealldoomed, on Nov 4 2007, 18:15, said:

That was fucking crud. Excuse the language.

A win's a win, but the abuse levelled at Black after the final whist'e tells it's own story.

In the first half, I thought we were the better team, however in keeping with the last couple of seasons' play, we seemed to want to walk the ball into the net. The second half was an utter scandal though.

It appeared to me that we were instructed to sit deep and close the game out, but all that resulted from this was nearly constant Queen's pressure. For all that, Queen's pre-occupation with playing pretty patterns in a similar manner to Airdrie limited them to a couple of clear cut chances. Fortunately, Robertson was up to the job.

The most worrying aspect of that pish for me was the lack of dig. Many times, we hat decent opportunities to break yet slowed the game down to snail's pace with square passes, allowing Queen's to gat players behind the ball. If there was a bit more agression and directness about our play, our strikers could tear most defences in ths league to pieces.

Get Black to feck now, and send Lovering and MacDonald with him.

cannot agree more mate, that was honestly the worst 45 minutes of footbll I have ever seen in my Life, i would really like to know how many shots on goal airdrie had I think it was 4, McDonald had 2 and noble and russell 1 each......1 was on target and it was the goal......from 10 mins into it Lovering looked injured and played like he had 1 leg that was the single worst performance from a player I have seen all season. McDonald wasn't AS bad yesterday as he has been for the past 9 games (not counting or anything) and he just isn't up to the job. The manager is saying in the sunday papers that he DID NOT instruct the team to defend.......so did Allan Russell come back to midfield of his own free will???? Don't think so, Black deserved the abuse as he is tactically inept and basically hasn't got a clue. I can't believe im writing this but if its gonna take a humping off someone to get him to go then lets get it over with!!

[an86]

Think Clydebank have delusions of grandure. You wont escape this league this year and willl be a consistent part-time middle of the road 2nd division team for the forseeable. That isn't bitterness at getting beat. To come to a team who have had reasonable results this season, win and boo your team off the park is a disgrace. This isn't the late 90's when Clydebank were winning Division 2- you are nowhere near that standard. The only hope you have is the playoffs.

[Diamonds are Forever]

an86, on Nov 4 2007, 19:04, said:

Think Clydebank have delusions of grandure. You wont escape this league this year

Do you not think by reading every post by the Airdrie fans on here that they agree ?? That is why we are angry. We have the best squad of players in this league IMO. No better shot stopper than Robbo (he's crap at crosses though I'll give you that). No better defense, as the goals against record says and certainly no better strikers than Noble and Russell, with Prunty as back up. Our midfield is the only real area for concern. Although that's more down to Kenny Black's tactics IMO. If we had a decent manager we would win this league, and that's why we are annoyed, because we know we should be doing better.

[an86]

Diamonds are Forever, on Nov 4 2007, 19:46, said:

Do you not think by reading every post by the Airdrie fans on here that they agree ?? That is why we are angry. We have the best squad of players in this league IMO. No better shot stopper than Robbo (he's crap at crosses though I'll give you that). No better defense, as the goals against record says and certainly no better strikers than Noble and Russell, with Prunty as back up. Our midfield is the only real area for concern. Although that's more down to Kenny Black's tactics IMO. If we had a decent manager we would win this league, and that's why we are annoyed, because we know we should be doing better.

My point is that nearly every other team in the league would be more than happy with an away win no matter what the performance. However fans of your team seem to think it is your devine right to turn up and turn over part time teams comfartably. Booing your team off after a victory is a joke. Black will go eventually this season but when Dick Campbell or whoever else is installed it will be no different, Airdrie simply aren't good enough to go up and the fans should take a reality check.

[Gartleahill]

There is absolutely nothing wrong in being ambitious from a supporters point of view . Whats the point of supporting your club if you don't believe you can always aim higher . Surely thats what being a football supporter is all about. I as an Airdrie supporter will never settle for mediocrity. Maybe the supporters of Queens Park, Albion Rovers and Stenny etc are happy for their club to plod along at the fag end of Scottish Football but that is not for me.

[Raith_Raver]

Gartleahill, on Nov 4 2007, 21:52, said:

There is absolutely nothing wrong in being ambitious from a supporters point of view . Whats the point of supporting your club if you don't believe you can always aim higher . Surely thats what being a football supporter is all about. I as an Airdrie supporter will never settle for mediocrity. Maybe the supporters of Queens Park, Albion Rovers and Stenny etc are happy for their club to plod along at the fag end of Scottish Football but that is not for me.

Airdrie United have much less pedigree than Queen's Park, who (apart from their early history) have also played in the 1st division not so long ago. You seem to be identifying your team with Airdrieonians. I'm not saying this is right or wrong, but technically they arent and therefore until they actually achieve something in their own name you've no right to be claiming you should be this or that.

Edit - I accept taht being a full-time club expects to be above the second division, but that is something different.

This post has been edited by Raith_Raver: 04 November 2007 - 22:05

[an86]

Gartleahill, on Nov 4 2007, 21:52, said:

There is absolutely nothing wrong in being ambitious from a supporters point of view . Whats the point of supporting your club if you don't believe you can always aim higher . Surely thats what being a football supporter is all about. I as an Airdrie supporter will never settle for mediocrity. Maybe the supporters of Queens Park, Albion Rovers and Stenny etc are happy for their club to plod along at the fag end of Scottish Football but that is not for me.

Airdrie United have found there level. A team with a core support of 850 fans doesn't deserve to be in a higher division. The difference is that Queens, Stenny and Albion Rovers fans know that there team has a certain level. Being such a young club the fans shouldn't expect the team to walk before they can run.