[setterdaysannie]

Bad day at the office. Not the same team that spanked the Pars. Still QOS is always a tough proposition, and on the back of the sterling effort at Tannadice, the boys can be forgiven a bad result.
Jags on Saturday and then a couple of weeks until the trip to Dens.
Fair play to Queens though, wouldn't want to see them go down!

[veteran]

According to the QoS OS , we lined up with an adventurous 4-3-3 formation.
From where I was sitting somebody apparently forgot to tell the players.
We played a very definite 4-4-2 with Mole hugging the right touchline and Tosh hugging the left.
However if some players thought we were playing 4-3-3 and others thought it was 4-4-2 , that would explain why for the first half hour of the game the space in front of our back four resembled a deserted supermarket car park.

[badgers apprentice]

never thought i would agree with tig, but i feckin will am! halliwell cost us three points today and the sooner cerny is in goals the better.
we were totally in contol first half and the the first fifteen twenty minutes second half ,then halliwell losed the plot!

i knew taylor should have started midweek and this was proven with billys radical subs replacing winters( who was fuckin great) and gilhaney...........with davison(how gretna are laughing) and the usual...........................brian wake?????????

we really need a guy who can come in for richie after billys promise that we would sign about five strikers!

[Ye Olde Hamiltonian]

Insight, on Nov 3 2007, 23:12, said:

LOL.......................so lets talk about the plastic pitch.........you c**ts would rather stay down to make money from that disgrace of a pitch from c**ts on a monday night than getting into the big league!!

The only teams that play on Accies fieldturf pitch are our under age teams.The public are not allowed.
Funnily enough foresight- or should that be foreskin-Accies will be moving their pitch into Holy Cross High School if we go up.Unlike yourselves and the others,we are relying on our reserves and youths without playing the loan card.
Get your facts right before your ill conceived diatribes.
Here to help.

[Palmerston_1919]

Much better performance in the 2nd half, although the first was arguably as bad as we have been all season, i do emphasise ARGUABLY. Team selection still baffles me, Aitken should have played in place of Scally at Centre half, hopefully Lauchlan will be back soon along with Paton and then we can stop gifting teams goals. One pleasing aspect was the attitude of the players in the 2nd half, although had McArthurs strike gone in but from a great save from McDonald.

Have to say i thought the defending was comical for the first goal, but McDonald's positioning was just as bad, he was covering about 5% of the goal. Surprised at the criticism Mole is recievng from some quarters, thought he did really well today, looked lively and has the pace at right mid which we so desperately need, i would be tempted to start him there again next week. Was surprised when he came off but have to say this is probably the first timethis season where the subs have made a telling impact. I'll be the first to admit ive given Bingham a fair amount of criticism but he was excellent today, a completely different player to the one we've witnessed so far. Loads of effort and his vision and ability in the air caused the accies defence loads of problems, could easily have had a couple of assists today, should he start next week??

Brian Gilmour was also excellent when he came on, for me he has to play every week, he's not in the U-21 squad for nothing, although im not really sure where his best position is, i would start him on the left next week.

Certainly loads to build on from this performance and i dont think we are that far away from a half decent side, we desperately need to sort out the defence though and stop gifting goals. Big game again next week, if we can win that then we'll at least have a little bit of breathing space for a couple of weeks.

[To be fair]

badgers apprentice, on Nov 4 2007, 05:02, said:

never thought i would agree with tig, but i feckin will am! halliwell cost us three points today and the sooner cerny is in goals the better.
we were totally in contol first half and the the first fifteen twenty minutes second half ,then halliwell losed the plot!
i knew taylor should have started midweek and this was proven with billys radical subs replacing winters( who was fuckin great) and gilhaney...........with davison(how gretna are laughing) and the usual...........................brian wake?????????

we really need a guy who can come in for richie after billys promise that we would sign about five strikers!

Even if you call the second one an own goal (and I personally wouldn't), it's surely a bit harsh to actually blame the 'keeper for it. Badly at fault for the first one, I'll grant you; but was he not just unlucky a couple of minutes later?
I suppose it's just another stick to beat him with if you don't like him anyway though.

[Radford]

It was around this time last year that we sussed Bryn out. We were top of the table at the same stage (12 games) but stuck with him for a few more weeks, where his errors cost us at least one goal in each game and before we knew it we were nine points behind Gretna.

Hope for Accies sake that Billy Reid doesn't make the same mistake.

[Skyline Drifter]

Radford, on Nov 4 2007, 11:10, said:

Hope for Accies sake that Billy Reid doesn't make the same mistake.

...............and hope for Saintees sake that he does.

[Radford]

Skyline Drifter, on Nov 4 2007, 11:13, said:

...............and hope for Saintees sake that he does.

Won't make a difference to us unfortunately. There's only one team it will benefit and it's Dundee.

Really surprised at the result yesterday though after seeing Queens a few weeks ago, you looked to be in one of these holes that you dig yourselves in to until the January window!

[Skyline Drifter]

Radford, on Nov 4 2007, 11:16, said:

Won't make a difference to us unfortunately. There's only one team it will benefit and it's Dundee.

Really surprised at the result yesterday though after seeing Queens a few weeks ago, you looked to be in one of these holes that you dig yourselves in to until the January window!

We were awful at Perth. Absolutely the worst performance of the season bar none. I can cope with losing, St Johnstone are after all better than us and we had a lot of players missing, but that day we were as passionless as I've seen for a while.

However, we have shown a lot more spirit and fight in the last two games to come from behind to draw at Livingston and win against teh league leaders. Yesterday was far from a vintage performance. Indeed for an hour or so we didn't play very well going forward (though we defended well) and you couldn't see an equaliser coming. We got lucky. Partly helped by Halliwell but both goals were fortunate. However, the visible lift we got from the goals, the spirit of the team in the last 25 minutes was a revelation. We played well enough in that final spell to win by more and to be fair Hamilton fans have pretty much agreed with that. Gilmour and Bingham finally showed why they were brought here yesterday and if we can see more like that from them then we have much to be positive about. Injuries have almost cleared up again. Burns should be available next week, Lauchlan might need until after the international break and I don't think Dobbie's thigh knock yesterday was anything terribly serious. Not sure how long Paton might be out for, probably more than a coupe of weeks, but McQuilken can cover his position ably and Harris can sit in at left back fine. I'd like Lauchlan back but Scally has done well in his two outings at centre half this season actually and McFarlane looks a much better player for he and Scally not trying to do the same job in the middle.

Despite the general depression from some Queens posters we're not in any real hole at all with 7/10th of the league split by 4 points (and St Johnstone hardly far removed either). We're much better off than we were at the same stage in each of the last two seasons and have got there despite massive injury problems to date. The next couple of months will decide much about who will struggle and who won't.

[Tam]

FCUnited, on Nov 3 2007, 18:46, said:

a wins a win, but i still want to see chisholm go he is a grade 1 w**ker his selections are at times questionable i see no logic in them at all! credit to adny aitken for putting up with this and not knocking f**k out the wee fanny!

Whoa, dobbin!

The guy engineers a win and gets this for his trouble???!!!

You are severely hard to please. Andy Aitken and Nixon were bomb scary at Livvi. The manager changed it.
Scally had a tough time against a nippy winger and picked up a booking. He changed it. Two bits of logic for you, if you want to see them.

He brought on Gilmour and helped to win the game. Give him some credit when it's due. I am a big fan of Andy Aitken - but he didn't come out of the Almondvale game with that much credit IMO - I won't be abusing him in the way you are abusing the manager though. B)

[MB]

Skyline Drifter, on Nov 4 2007, 11:47, said:

However, we have shown a lot more spirit and fight in the last two games to come from behind to draw at Livingston and win against teh league leaders. Yesterday was far from a vintage performance. Indeed for an hour or so we didn't play very well going forward (though we defended well) and you couldn't see an equaliser coming. We got lucky. Partly helped by Halliwell but both goals were fortunate. However, the visible lift we got from the goals, the spirit of the team in the last 25 minutes was a revelation. We played well enough in that final spell to win by more and to be fair Hamilton fans have pretty much agreed with that. Gilmour and Bingham finally showed why they were brought here yesterday and if we can see more like that from them then we have much to be positive about. Injuries have almost cleared up again. Burns should be available next week, Lauchlan might need until after the international break and I don't think Dobbie's thigh knock yesterday was anything terribly serious. Not sure how long Paton might be out for, probably more than a coupe of weeks, but McQuilken can cover his position ably and Harris can sit in at left back fine. I'd like Lauchlan back but Scally has done well in his two outings at centre half this season actually and McFarlane looks a much better player for he and Scally not trying to do the same job in the middle.

You are right to be positive; we found out quite a lot about the side yesterday and much of it was encouraging. Gilmour has to start games; he has undoubted ability. It was his signing more than any other in the close season that made me so optimistic about this season. He offers us something different and can open up a game with his skill. Though we miss Eric Paton and I'd rather Scally was playing in his rightful position, we can cope. Neil Scally never lets us down. He has played at centre half on two occasions this season, both against Accies, and has played well each time. He didn't do a bad job at right back last week either. It has to be said that both Nixon and Aitken struggled at Livi last week, and perhaps Chisholm made the right call. In addition, even David Bingham did well when he came on. I certainly feel more positive than a few days ago. Aren't football fans a fickle bunch?

Skyline Drifter, on Nov 4 2007, 11:47, said:

Despite the general depression from some Queens posters we're not in any real hole at all with 7/10th of the league split by 4 points (and St Johnstone hardly far removed either). We're much better off than we were at the same stage in each of the last two seasons and have got there despite massive injury problems to date. The next couple of months will decide much about who will struggle and who won't.

We're still in a hole, though it is no where near as large as it has been in the recent past. In saying that, quite a few other teams are in the hole with us this season. With injuries starting to ease, the future looks a little brighter all of a sudden. I don't think I could take another 'Great Escape'. Let's get ourselves a good cushion and we can all start to enjoy the season a little more.

[dee4life]

Good result queens and it shows how tough this league is any team can beat another on a saturday,a wee bit of a surprise just cause accies have been on fire but not a total shock I thought queens looked a decent team when they played us at dens.

[19QOS19]

get your money on Queens to win i certainly will although hamilton dominated us up there earlier on this year it was a defensive mistake which lost us the game.

1-0 QoS and Hamilton about to lose their winning ways!



Ok it wasnt 1-0 but i told you so!

If i was an Accie fan i'd be worrying for the simple fact that when QoS upped the tempo ,just before the first goal, hamilton looked like the didn't have a clue! As i remember correctly Dundee play quick football so i think that could be a nice easy win for dundee in a couple of weeks!

Glad to hear the comments from the hamilton fans aren't all negative towards queens! I felt that QoS deserved at least a point from the second half performance, and its about time we got a bit of luck!

As a Bingaham critic i hold my hands up and say he was absolutely outstanding yesterday and changed the game! As for all those Tosh fans , where are they? Thought he played excellent yesterday as well considering he was again out of position!

[Flash]

If we accept that Aitken is out of favour, how can Chisholm justify signing McGowan and Nixon when he picks Scally ahead of them? I recall his judgement being trusted 100% when he failed to sign Atkin, with the justification being that Chisholm is a former centre half, so he must know a good one when he sees one. So how does this explain him signing McGowan and Nixon, yet deciding that a midfield player makes a better centre back?
He also starts with Tosh wide left, which indicates he thinks he is a better left sided midfield player than Gilmour. Tosh isn't even a right winger, but he can just about cope with that. He is totally lost playing on the left. It is like Gerrard playing there for Liverpool.
Make no mistake, the team that started yesterday would have lost. Chisholm has to waken up and start playing players in their proper positions instead of trying to fit square pegs into round holes.

[Twynholm]

Game of 2 halfs. 1st half Accies were on top 2nd half we were the better team. Chisolms team selection certainly was bafflin with Gilmour on the bench again!!! Defo a 442 he played though. Mole is not a winger and was very poor out there. Tosh came onto a game 2nd half and Bingo looked a threat! delighted to take the points!

[Skyline Drifter]

Flash, on Nov 4 2007, 14:20, said:

If we accept that Aitken is out of favour, how can Chisholm justify signing McGowan and Nixon when he picks Scally ahead of them?

Whether he would have played or not if he was fit is pure conjecture but Nixon has a toe injury and wasn't available for selection yesterday.

[Flash]

Skyline Drifter, on Nov 4 2007, 14:45, said:

Whether he would have played or not if he was fit is pure conjecture but Nixon has a toe injury and wasn't available for selection yesterday.

Didn't know that. Nothing about it on the Official Site (that I saw anyway).

[Skyline Drifter]

Flash, on Nov 4 2007, 14:50, said:

Didn't know that. Nothing about it on the Official Site (that I saw anyway).

Neither did I until I was told at the game yesterday. I presume it was done on Friday after the team news had been pubished.

[kirkyblue2]

Skyline Drifter, on Nov 4 2007, 14:52, said:

Neither did I until I was told at the game yesterday. I presume it was done on Friday after the team news had been pubished.

What about McGowan, was he injured or dropped?

[Borgue Boy]

I wonder how different the comments on here would have been had we not got the break of the ball today....

QOS first half performance was dreadful, probably one of the worst I have seen. I really wonder what the manager is playing at. Skyline Drifter, I mostly agree with what you say but I think you must have been at another game during the first half.

McQuilken looked far from comfortable playing out of position, and I thought JT was in the running for man of the match, hardly putting a head or foot wrong all day. Mole looked hungry and might have played a bigger part if he and Tosh were played in the roles they are comforatble with. Harris also looked out of sorts in the first half.

But it was a game of two halves!.. Straight from the kick off there appeared to be more urgency about Queens, and they started passing rather than punting the ball in the air. Harris, Tosh, Gilmour and Bingham all linked up well and the frustration in the crowd disappeared.

The biggest failing in the team today (in my opinion) was McFarlane. He was so negative and appear to lack any direction. However in his favour I admit that he had a good last 15 mins where he battled well.

We really do need Eric Paton back as soon as possible. He is undoubtly the best player we have and he is sorely missed. I look forward to the day where we can have Paton, Burns, Scally, and Tosh all playing where they play best. Then maybe we can look forward to enjoying watching Queens again!!

This post has been edited by Borgue Boy: 04 November 2007 - 15:27

[Palmerston_1919]

Borgue Boy, on Nov 4 2007, 15:24, said:

We really do need Eric Paton back as soon as possible. He is undoubtly the best player we have and he is sorely missed. I look forward to the day where we can have Paton, Burns, Scally, and Tosh all playing where they play best. Then maybe we can look forward to enjoying watching Queens again!!

We certainly miss Paton. I'll probably get shot down in flames for this but i actually dont think we miss Burnsy that much to be honest. He's a battler and gives 110% for the shirt and for that alone i like him, but personally i see him as a utility player who can provide cover, rather than an automatic starter. I'd rather see Gilmour or Tosh play on the right ahead of him, but at the same time i'd rather have Burnsy in centre-mid than Roberston. Just an observation, i am certainly not having a go at him as i'm quite happy when he's int he side, just think the likes of Paton and Lauchlan are bigger misses at this moment in time.

[Trevor the tractor]

Mabawsa_Ritchie, on Nov 3 2007, 17:47, said:

Accies will probably now petition the SFA to rule that OGs scored against their team shouldn't count. Sorry lads, but you can't have Craig Thomson every week. GIRUY.

1-1 At home to Stirling. Maybe Templeman should have used his magic SHOULDER again.

Well done Queens, Thought you were a bit lucky to win but maybe we used up our luck last week

[academical]

19QOS19, on Nov 4 2007, 15:10, said:

If i was an Accie fan i'd be worrying for the simple fact that when QoS upped the tempo ,just before the first goal, hamilton looked like the didn't have a clue! As i remember correctly Dundee play quick football so i think that could be a nice easy win for dundee in a couple of weeks!

The flaw in that argumnent is that we played Dundee not so long ago, and in the end there was only one "easy" winner.

I agree that we didn't look like we had an answer to your two goals, but I don't agree that you "upped the tempo". I think our players may have been tired after our midweek game, but we're normally quite a pacy side. I'd say you just outplayed us in the last half hour.

Congratulations on your prediction. I hope you benefited from the crazy odds at the bookies.

[dee4life]

[quote name='academical' date='Nov 4 2007, 17:07' post='1963693']
The flaw in that argumnent is that we played Dundee not so long ago, and in the end there was only one "easy" winner.

We are a different team at dens.