[Bloobell]

Looks like Sellick got £25k fine and Dida banned for 2 games

About right I'd say

[Savage Henry]

Extremely light on bothe cases, I feel.

[Bloobell]

StMiranda3, on Oct 11 2007, 17:22, said:

Yip just heard it...don't care.
Will UEFA just keep the money?

They should give it to Rangers just to piss the Tims off

[Marc]

All i can say as at least action was taken against Dida aswell...

I dont condone what the Celtic fan did, totally wrong but he's obviously paying for it now and will continue to pay for it, but Dida should never have done what he done.

[Broccoli Dog]

£25k is a disgrace of a fine, that's pocket change to any club in the CL.

[Bloobell]

kpj, on Oct 11 2007, 17:28, said:

£25k is a disgrace of a fine, that's pocket change to any club in the CL.

It's hardly the crime of the century and the fine is fair

You can't fine based on the size of each club FFS

[Broccoli Dog]

A fan got onto the pitch and made contact with a player, regardless of what actually happened the fine should reflect what could have happened (ie. he could have attacked, injured etc.)

The stewarding at Parkhead was also clearly inadequate, shoudn't there have been a ring of stewards and polis all the way around the track to stop any sort of pitch invasion?

To put the fine into perspective, St. Mirren (a first division team at the time) were fined the same amount for fielding an ineligible player during a Scottish cup tie. Which came around due to confusion over the U21 rule. A figure which at the time could have easily forced St. Mirren into an even more precarious financial position.

I don't think Celtic should have been kicked out, or the match be replayed, or the result changed etc. Just that if a team is fined it should reflect not only the severity of the incident but also the finances of the offending club.

Maybe £250k would have been a punishment which would be taken seriously across Europe, and set a precedent for future incidents.

[St Sid]

In the hall monitoring style of the blackislebawbag....nothing to do with the SPL.

[Rabinho]

kpj, on Oct 11 2007, 17:39, said:

A fan got onto the pitch and made contact with a player, regardless of what actually happened the fine should reflect what could have happened (ie. he could have attacked, injured etc.)

The stewarding at Parkhead was also clearly inadequate, shoudn't there have been a ring of stewards and polis all the way around the track to stop any sort of pitch invasion?

To put the fine into perspective, St. Mirren (a first division team at the time) were fined the same amount for fielding an ineligible player during a Scottish cup tie. Which came around due to confusion over the U21 rule. A figure which at the time could have easily forced St. Mirren into an even more precarious financial position.

I don't think Celtic should have been kicked out, or the match be replayed, or the result changed etc. Just that if a team is fined it should reflect not only the severity of the incident but also the finances of the offending club.

Maybe £250k would have been a punishment which would be taken seriously across Europe, and set a precedent for future incidents.

I think Celtic would've taken any financial punishment.
They'd have been gutted and rightly so if they got kicked out the tournament or had to replay the game.

[JohnoftheJungle]

kpj, on Oct 11 2007, 17:28, said:

£25k is a disgrace of a fine, that's pocket change to any club in the CL.

We only pay 15 just now and the rest if theres a repeat offence in the next 2 years!

Fair imo.

[Caley D]

Short of caging everyone in at games you will never stop incidents where people are determined to make an arse of themselves by running on to the pitch etc.

If Celtic had been able to show that they had taken reasonable precautions to prevent it then they should not have been fined anything, never mind this nonsense about throwing them out of the tournament etc.

[Broccoli Dog]

JohnoftheJungle, on Oct 11 2007, 17:47, said:

We only pay 15 just now and the rest if theres a repeat offence in the next 2 years!

Even more of a joke.

[St Sid]

I dont think @berdeen will be quite so laid back if they get a £25k fine for their fans f"kwittery. Going by the consistency of footballs administrators the dons with get a £100k fine and thrown out of the UEFA Cup.

[JohnoftheJungle]

kpj, on Oct 11 2007, 17:52, said:

Even more of a joke.

Why?

[Broccoli Dog]

JohnoftheJungle, on Oct 11 2007, 17:52, said:

Why?

Because the purpose of a punishment is to punish

15 grand is the wages of a celtic backup player for one week. It's not so much a punishment more a token wrist slap.

[bestbud]

Bloobell, on Oct 11 2007, 17:23, said:

They should give it to Rangers just to piss the Tims off

Was there any need for you to use the word "tims" in your response?
I'm not pissed off. why are you suggesting that i should be?

[Leeds-Rover]

kpj, on Oct 11 2007, 17:52, said:

Even more of a joke.

Would you have rather the game had been replayed or Celtic kicked out of Europe? It was just one fan being an idiot and lessons will have be learned so hopefully so the same thing won't happen again.

[Broccoli Dog]

Steven, on Oct 11 2007, 17:58, said:

Would you have rather the game had been replayed or Celtic kicked out of Europe? It was just one fan being an idiot and lessons will have be learned so hopefully so the same thing won't happen again.

I've already stated what I beleive would have been a more suitable punishment earlier on.

It was a clear case of innefective stewarding, at the end of every SPL game you see a ring of police and stewards forming around the pitch for the last five minutes or so. If a supporter does get on the pitch they should be spotted and tackled.

In this case a supporter got on the pitch, was not tackled, made contact with a player, ran back into the stands (was helped back in by the stewards) and then went home. He was only caught because he handed himself in.

What would your punishment have been if the guy had run a kife down Dida's cheek instead of just slapping him?

[LovaMan Bairn]

Should Celtic not just pass this fine on the pitch invader? That would surely make others think before doing something similar.

[dogma]

kpj, on Oct 11 2007, 18:06, said:

I've already stated what I beleive would have been a more suitable punishment earlier on.

It was a clear case of innefective stewarding, at the end of every SPL game you see a ring of police and stewards forming around the pitch for the last five minutes or so. If a supporter does get on the pitch they should be spotted and tackled.

In this case a supporter got on the pitch, was not tackled, made contact with a player, ran back into the stands (was helped back in by the stewards) and then went home. He was only caught because he handed himself in.

What would your punishment have been if the guy had run a kife down Dida's cheek instead of just slapping him?

UEFA cant fine Celtic for what didnt happen though. They were fined for what DID happen. Yes it shouldnt have, but ultimately there was no violence, no one was actually injured. Look what Turkish fans have been getting away with for years, look at the prbs with Liverpool fans the the CL final. I think UEFA got this right ( for a change )

[Leeds-Rover]

kpj, on Oct 11 2007, 18:06, said:

What would your punishment have been if the guy had run a kife down Dida's cheek instead of just slapping him?

Close the ground or kick Celtic out but that didn't happen! if Dida hadn't went down the way he did very few people would have talked about the incident.

A warning and a small fine was the right decision, why should a club and 60,000 fans suffer cause of one idiot?

[Leeds-Rover]

Also compare the fine Celtic got to the fine Aragones got for making racist remarks at Thierry Henry (A far bigger offence in my eyes)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/ i...als/4055395.stm

Only thing that was murdered was Dida's acting career