[badger_whacker]

Dundee

Who's he trying to kid?

First bit of decent money that comes in and Dundee's out of the title race.

[ClydeSI]

badger_whacker, on Oct 10 2007, 16:10, said:

Dundee

Who's he trying to kid?

First bit of decent money that comes in and Dundee's out of the title race.

Dont think he is trying to kid anyone.

Thats what he is saying - if a good offer comes for them then they can go in January, and if no good ones come in then they will be staying till they are out of contract.

[birdeeman]

http://www.thecourie...y10397463t0. asp

same story words "refusing" to sign and "rejected" added for effect, nothing new to the daily ranger!!

if there was a chance of promotion this season would you sign a first division contract for a year now or wait til there might be a chance of spl wages? think about it!!

This post has been edited by birdeeman: 10 October 2007 - 16:14

[adundeemonkey]

I think they will certainly go. The finances at Dundee dictate they cant afford to gamble on not getting promoted and losing the kids for free. They could probably get over 600k for them and that could mean a hell of a lot for dundee. I know they may go up, but it is a four horse race and losing those kids for next to nothing must be to much a risk.

[birdeeman]

adundeemonkey, on Oct 10 2007, 17:16, said:

I think they will certainly go. The finances at Dundee dictate they cant afford to gamble on not getting promoted and losing the kids for free. They could probably get over 600k for them and that could mean a hell of a lot for dundee. I know they may go up, but it is a four horse race and losing those kids for next to nothing must be to much a risk.

why would anyone pay 600k+ in january when they will be up for contract renewals in the summer? no one will pay this so chances are they will probably stay til summer, dees have said there would have to be significant fee for them to leave.

[A previously banned poster]

I think any money which is brought in for any of their players should be given to their creditors. Dundee being allowed to use the money for any other purpose would be blatantly unjust.

[birdeeman]

SavotheGreat, on Oct 10 2007, 17:33, said:

I think any money which is brought in for any of their players should be given to their creditors. Dundee being allowed to use the money for any other purpose would be blatantly unjust.

think you are having a mental break down.

[A previously banned poster]

birdeeman, on Oct 10 2007, 17:36, said:

think you are having a mental break down.

1. Check my sig. Unless your being ironic, in which case......................*applause*.

2. Matter for disclosure: i'm not on the wind.

I truly believe that it is unjust that Dundee should have millions of debt just waivered. You shouldn't be allowed to trade.

[Web]

SavotheGreat, on Oct 10 2007, 17:41, said:

1. Check my sig. Unless your being ironic, in which case......................*applause*.

2. Matter for disclosure: i'm not on the wind.

I truly believe that it is unjust that Dundee should have millions of debt just waivered. You shouldn't be allowed to trade.

Well we have and we are, get over this fact please.

[A previously banned poster]

WebbyDFC, on Oct 10 2007, 17:52, said:

Well we have and we are, get over this fact please.

Is there any chance that you can try and justify it for me?

Do you believe that it is just?

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[The Master]

SavotheGreat, on Oct 10 2007, 17:33, said:

I think any money which is brought in for any of their players should be given to their creditors. Dundee being allowed to use the money for any other purpose would be blatantly unjust.

Ooh, ooh...I wanna say this.

f**k OFF SAVO YOU TEDIOUS c**t!!!!!

[Web]

SavotheGreat, on Oct 10 2007, 17:54, said:

Is there any chance that you can try and justify it for me?

Do you believe that it is just?

No I won't attempt to justify it because I don't need to.

Of course I believe it is just, my team is still in business!!!

[birdeeman]

a team that caved and sold their famous ground to a *supermarket* can speak about finances!!

[A previously banned poster]

WebbyDFC, on Oct 10 2007, 17:57, said:

No I won't attempt to justify it because I don't need to.

Of course I believe it is just, my team is still in business!!!

Do you know the situation surrounding the re-payment of debt? I assume it hasn't just been waivered?

Last I was aware, you owed the bank in the region of £13m, which would take many a year to pay back. Surely any money you receive from these assets should be put towards eradicating that debt?

IMO, you shouldn't be allowed to spend a penny on transfers until its paid back. I think your youth system is pretty much your only way out of this situation.

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[Steve McQueen]

What do you expect him to say?

"yes, we need the money & will accept any offer!"

[Web]

SavotheGreat, on Oct 10 2007, 18:14, said:

Do you know the situation surrounding the re-payment of debt? I assume it hasn't just been waivered?

Last I was aware, you owed the bank in the region of £13m, which would take many a year to pay back. Surely any money you receive from these assets should be put towards eradicating that debt?

IMO, you shouldn't be allowed to spend a penny on transfers until its paid back. I think your youth system is pretty much your only way out of this situation.

It was detailed at our AGM http://www.dundee-ma.......2&id=349676

As far as I know any transfers into the club have been free, I may be wrong. If it were the shoe on the other foot I certianly wouldn't be making a song and dance about you being put out of business or ahything like that. If we did go out of business though, Who would be utterly consumed with hatred for then?

This post has been edited by WebbyDFC: 10 October 2007 - 17:22

[birdeeman]

SavotheGreat, on Oct 10 2007, 18:14, said:

Do you know the situation surrounding the re-payment of debt? I assume it hasn't just been waivered?

Last I was aware, you owed the bank in the region of £13m, which would take many a year to pay back. Surely any money you receive from these assets should be put towards eradicating that debt?

IMO, you shouldn't be allowed to spend a penny on transfers until its paid back. I think your youth system is pretty much your only way out of this situation.

and what is your point? £7m of this was owed to the marrs who took this away with them, so this leaves £6m which is being managed, like any debt at any club including st johnstones.

[A previously banned poster]

WebbyDFC, on Oct 10 2007, 18:20, said:

It was detailed at our AGM http://www.dundee-ma.......2&id=349676

As far as I know any transfers into the club have been free, I may be wrong. If it were the shoe on the other foot I certianly wouldn't be making a song and dance about you being put out of business or ahything like that. If we did go out of business though, Who would be utterly consumed with hatred for then?

I'm not making a song and dance. I asked a question, you've clarified it. The end

Steve McQueen, on Oct 10 2007, 18:19, said:

What do you expect him to say?

"yes, we need the money & will accept any offer!"

birdeeman, on Oct 10 2007, 18:24, said:

and what is your point? £7m of this was owed to the marrs who took this away with them, so this leaves £6m which is being managed, like any debt at any club including st johnstones.

FFS! At ease!

[Web]

SavotheGreat, on Oct 10 2007, 18:27, said:

I'm not making a song and dance. I asked a question, you've clarified it. The end

You have done in the past.

[A previously banned poster]

WebbyDFC, on Oct 10 2007, 18:29, said:

You have done in the past.

Fair dues, if that's your perference i'll keep in in mind for the next time I broach this issue.

[Web]

SavotheGreat, on Oct 10 2007, 18:32, said:

Fair dues, if that's your perference i'll keep in in mind for the next time I broach this issue.

lol, well not really I don't get any great pleasure in being deliberately flippant about our financial issues but there are times when I have to be.

[birdeeman]

SavotheGreat, on Oct 10 2007, 18:27, said:

I'm not making a song and dance. I asked a question, you've clarified it. The end


FFS! At ease!

you didn't ask a question you made a stupid statement but yes this has been clarified years ago but the arabsaints4life don't know when to end it.

i'll let you off this time as you are good point and laugh material

[Web]

birdeeman, on Oct 10 2007, 18:40, said:

you didn't ask a question you made a stupid statement but yes this has been clarified years ago but the arabsaints4life don't know when to end it.

i'll let you off this time as you are good point and laugh material

To be fair he did ask a question and the last he was aware was we were 13m in debt as far as his opinion goes that's his but we havn't paid any money out in transfer fees for a long, long time.

This post has been edited by WebbyDFC: 10 October 2007 - 17:44

[birdeeman]

SavotheGreat, on Oct 10 2007, 17:33, said:

I think any money which is brought in for any of their players should be given to their creditors. Dundee being allowed to use the money for any other purpose would be blatantly unjust.

? you missed one


edit:- where did your post go?

This post has been edited by birdeeman: 10 October 2007 - 17:50

[donj]

It's in the past and it's done,the same as Motherwell and Livingston.I do make the odd wee joke about consultants but as far as I'm concerned the clubs are now legally trading and they didnt owe me any money so not my problem.
As far as Dundee losing their young players I'm afraid that happens and come January taking some cash or watching them sign a pre-contract and not try a leg for the rest of the season could be the choice.