[DanElderRRFC]

video with hissy's penalty:

http://uk.youtube.co...h?v=xeKy23YLs9c

[Toddy]

The abuse of Hislop was a disgrace today. I was annoyed with him a few weeks ago at Hampden ref the penalty incident but today was a joke. fahey had a bad game today and let in 2 very soft goals but we still sang his name in support yet Hislop gets bile spouted from the home stands, how about trying to support all our players instead of picking on certain individuals?

If Ayr had a little more " rub of the green " B) today they could ( and probably should ) have had more than the 3 they got. The no.6 ( stevenson?? ) for Ayr was the standout for me, looked like he could easily step up a level or two. Anyway, going to be a long hard season for us and much improvement is required.

[p&b is a disgrace]

jack_bauer, on Sep 22 2007, 23:17, said:

video with hissy's penalty:

http://uk.youtube.co...h?v=xeKy23YLs9c

Well. There weren't many of us that actually saw it. A couple of hundred poor souls left at the end.

[Andy C]

onegaryteale, on Sep 22 2007, 21:41, said:

I said earlier in this thread i wanted a nine goal thriller and not to get shat on this time. I got a five goal thriller and a near miss so my day was a success.

You denied that poor bird it's hat-trick?

Shame on you onegaryteale.

[bring_back_the_twa_hoops]

VoR, on Sep 22 2007, 22:28, said:

Absolutely astonished by how bad raith were. Granted, we played really well, but to think that lot were (and still are) being tipped up to win the league is a hoot. Their defence must be the slowest of all time...we nabbed 3 but could have had 7 with ease.

I haven't read the rest of this thread so maybe it's already been explained, but why was Weir taken off with 20 mins to go? For my money he was the best of a very bad lot - and why replace a striker when you're chasing the game?

If thats Ayr playing really well you have some shite team. You won because we gave you two goals of a start. Where did you see 7 goals coming from?

I agree with the comment about the substitution tho - taking off a striker when we already had a defensive formation. McGlynn, what were you thinking about? I anyone needed to come off it was Winter - Hislop is having a bad time, but Winter is utterly inept.

[DanElderRRFC]

Crowds from today:

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Number of downloads: 15
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Number of downloads: 20

400 less than last week

[p&b is a disgrace]

jack_bauer, on Sep 22 2007, 23:40, said:

Crowds from today:

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DSC01158_1_.JPG

400 less than last week

That'll be Hislops fault. I'm sure he's involved in the Madeleine McCann disappearance too.

[Robbo]

Two awful teams which pretty well sums up the division.Sorry but Hissy is p@sh, along with a number of players.

As for the flack he took and other players,justified IMO.Were paying to watch that pish,they`re getting to paid play that pish.Any player who gesticulates to his own fans should never wear the jersey again.

[p&b is a disgrace]

Robbo, on Sep 22 2007, 23:43, said:

Two awful teams which pretty well sums up the division.Sorry but Hissy is p@sh, along with a number of players.

As for the flack he took and other players,justified IMO.Were paying to watch that pish,they`re getting to paid play that pish.Any player who gesticulates to his own fans should never wear the jersey again.

So the fans can give whatever abuse they want - without reply??

Thats just pish Robbo. Irrespective of whether any of us think he's played well of not, if fans are going to abuse a player for 90 mins then they should expect some back. What he did today was not abusive in any way.

And despite being barracked for 90 mins, he still fought to take the penalty. He coud easily have taken the cowardly way out - but he still grabbed that ball, even though he knew if he missed he'd get twice as much of the same.

Good on him. If only a few others ( ie midfielders ) had the same backbone we'd be heading for Div 1.

[BIGQ FAE KDY]

well said robbo i totally agree unfortunately some think differently

[p&b is a disgrace]

BIGQ FAE KDY, on Sep 22 2007, 23:52, said:

well said robbo i totally agree unfortunately some think differently

Yup. Over 2000 people didn't see this gesticulation that he's being chastised for. Thats why we think differently.

Did you see it?

[starks mad]

Well I certainly saw him asking a fan outside for a square go today as he went down the tunnel and twice making gestures to the crowd after he scored. I agree with Robbo entirely

[Mon the Rovers]

This is for the attention of the complete and utter arseholes amongst our support today who charged down from the back of the stand to shout abuse at the man who was by far man of the match, Stevie Hislop. Totally disgraceful, and I'm sure some of you guys on here know who the two of them are. I noticed Quinny speaking to them at full time, as well as Alex Condie, and good on Alex for putting these fannies views into perspective.

I don't carew who these guys are, what they've done for the club, how long they've been fans etc. Those sort are not welcome at Starks Park, or any other Rovers match, and I would be delighted if they pissed off somewhere else on a Saturday afternoon. I'll even pay their £14 entry fee.

Well played today Stevie Hislop, you were perfectly correct to 'shush' these clowns when you scored, especially after the penalty which they were willing you to miss. The vast majority of Rovers fans are BEHIND you. Well done, and keep up the form.


Posted this on Fantalk

I was going to come on here and sing the praises of the fans for being behind Fahey and the team, even at 3 down.

Then Hislop scored I'll post what I think about the match when I've calmed down.

[Martin Nelson]

VoR, on Sep 22 2007, 22:28, said:

I haven't read the rest of this thread so maybe it's already been explained, but why was Weir taken off with 20 mins to go? For my money he was the best of a very bad lot - and why replace a striker when you're chasing the game?

Because McGlynn didn't have a clue today. Between him and Fahey we gift wrapped the three points to Ayr. Utter pish.

[ronniemc]

Martin Nelson, on Sep 23 2007, 01:46, said:

Because McGlynn didn't have a clue today. Between him and Fahey we gift wrapped the three points to Ayr. Utter pish.

We were given a huge advantage today even before a ball was kicked. John McGlynn based his team selection on stopping Micky Moore and went with three less than mobile centre-halfs. I thought it was a strange tactical move for a team sitting top of the division surely its better to concentrate on your own strengths than worry to much about the other team.
Anyway it played into our hands and we were able to get the ball down and Jerome had a field day out on the right.
Not too much praise heading our way from the Raith fans considering we travelled to the then league leaders and won the game comfortably although it suits us fine to be continually written off as a `poor` team. Is that 8 games undefeated now?

Best for us today were the ever improving Murray Henderson and David Dunn who covered every inch of the pitch. Good all round performance from everyone however in a tough away fixture.

[Scary Bear]

starks mad, on Sep 23 2007, 00:11, said:

Well I certainly saw him asking a fan outside for a square go today as he went down the tunnel and twice making gestures to the crowd after he scored. I agree with Robbo entirely

We have a tunnel outside? Whereabouts?

Anyway, good for him, I would cheerily kick the shite out some of our fans when they're giving it the boo chorus.

[Hank Scorpio]

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As for the flack he took and other players,justified IMO.Were paying to watch that pish,they`re getting to paid play that pish.Any player who gesticulates to his own fans should never wear the jersey again.

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well said robbo i totally agree unfortunately some think differently

What absolute and utter, utter shite!

Hislop puts in a shift every single week, is chipping in with goals and yet still gets abused every week.

The small minority of Raith Rovers 'supporters' who continue berate the players are fannies and deserved to be embarassed by Hislop.

Good on Hissy for doing something about it! I'd have done the same.

The fact that two of them even rushed down the front to give him abuse it laughable.

As for the 'Should never wear the jersey again'.

Get a grip of yourself, and more importantly, get behind the team!!

[Mon the Rovers]

Well said namesake

I still think we should have won yesterday, we certainly didn't deserve to lose. As for the Ayr fan claiming they should have won by 7

Chance after chance fell our way, but until stoppage time we didn't take any. 21 shots at goal tells it's own story...

[Hank Scorpio]

Also, i notice that apart from Ayr's three goals, they had no other shots on target.

[philpy]

That really was painful yesterday. For me the turning point was marv's disallowed goal towards the end of the first half, that could have given us a massive boost at half-time had it been given. That, along with the 2 goal-line clearances in the second half had a big say in the final outcome of the game. As for the stuff with hislop, the guy did try his best at times, and if other things had went our way, any 1 of his 2 goals could have been significant for us. The same small-minded idiots that gave him dog's abuse yesterday will be the same folk that will be quick to praise him to high heaven if he scores a hat-trick at brechin next weekend.

[Monster]

Dunc, on Sep 22 2007, 17:43, said:

Ayr's problem was hitting the target.

They managed 3 times. 3 goals.

A bit more composure, it could've been sky-high.

Toddy, on Sep 22 2007, 23:21, said:

The abuse of Hislop was a disgrace today. I was annoyed with him a few weeks ago at Hampden ref the penalty incident but today was a joke. fahey had a bad game today and let in 2 very soft goals but we still sang his name in support yet Hislop gets bile spouted from the home stands, how about trying to support all our players instead of picking on certain individuals?

If Ayr had a little more " rub of the green " B) today they could ( and probably should ) have had more than the 3 they got. The no.6 ( stevenson?? ) for Ayr was the standout for me, looked like he could easily step up a level or two. Anyway, going to be a long hard season for us and much improvement is required.

This is why I still have a soft spot for Rovers.

bring_back_the_twa_hoops, on Sep 22 2007, 23:31, said:

If thats Ayr playing really well you have some shite team. You won because we gave you two goals of a start. Where did you see 7 goals coming from?

This is why I hate some Rovers fans. Bad loser pish. You were done, just accept it.

ronniemc, on Sep 23 2007, 07:54, said:

Not too much praise heading our way from the Raith fans considering we travelled to the then league leaders and won the game comfortably although it suits us fine to be continually written off as a `poor` team. Is that 8 games undefeated now?

Spot on Ronnie. I hope Rovers fans along with everyone else we play keep on about how pish we are, and we can just concentrate on picking up the results - now that Watt has FINALLY discoverd that 3-5-2 long ball doesn't work.

MonTheRovers!!, on Sep 23 2007, 09:40, said:

Also, i notice that apart from Ayr's three goals, they had no other shots on target.

Apart from Williams hitting the bar and Wardlaw hitting the post.


Here's my tuppenceworth:

I thought we were at it from the start today and worked really hard. Getting the first as a gift gave us the foothold required and our second was a good goal, with some excellent passing and a good finish. Rovers rarely threatened in the first half, but for 15 minutes after the re-start they could and probably should have scored, we were panicking and kicking it anywhere.

Then Ryan Stevenson picks up the ball, runs at Gods Donkey, rips the piss right out of him and buries the shot, putting the game to bed. Rovers did manage a couple of consolation goals thanks to very helpful officials and tired legs from our extra-time in midweek, but I don't care - a good performance and three points. B)

As for the booing of Hislop, I don't understand it. Marvin Andrews was rubbish again yesterday, his distribution is awful and he was all over the place for our third goal, yet he's a hero, as is Carcary, who was on the field for half an hour and touched the ball maybe three times?

Either support your team as a whole or don't bother.

Also, the hero worship of McGlynn seems pretty misguided to me. The team he put out yesterday was far too defensive against an Ayr team who were always going to tire after midweek. Another thing, why take of the number 10, who was clearly Rovers best player up to that point? Bizarre.


Overall, I'm very happy with the win and three points, particularly for Steven, kilgour, Pratt Street Fudd, bring_back_the_twa_hoops etc etc UP YE! B)

[Martin Nelson]

CALDERON, on Sep 22 2007, 18:02, said:

Spot on mate.

The way Rovers fans cream themselves over Carcary is embarrasing. The thing is, all this attention has gone to the lads head, and he thinks hes a superstar (hes not the only one in that team)

Mglynn needs to get some arsed kicked.

There's no doubt Carcary blows hot and cold, however, he is one of the few players in our squad who is capable of creating an opening from nothing. There was no excuse for us sending out a team with 7 or 8 defensively minded outfield players in the side and leaving someone like him (and Sloan for that matter) on the bench.
Someone perhaps needs to kick McGlynns arse and not just the players.

[Martin Nelson]

ronniemc, on Sep 23 2007, 07:54, said:

We were given a huge advantage today even before a ball was kicked. John McGlynn based his team selection on stopping Micky Moore and went with three less than mobile centre-halfs. I thought it was a strange tactical move for a team sitting top of the division surely its better to concentrate on your own strengths than worry to much about the other team.
Anyway it played into our hands and we were able to get the ball down and Jerome had a field day out on the right.
Not too much praise heading our way from the Raith fans considering we travelled to the then league leaders and won the game comfortably although it suits us fine to be continually written off as a `poor` team. Is that 8 games undefeated now?

Best for us today were the ever improving Murray Henderson and David Dunn who covered every inch of the pitch. Good all round performance from everyone however in a tough away fixture.

Too true. Who was your number 6? Was that Stevenson? He ran riot in the last 30 minutes, I don't think we tackled him once in that entire period. In that period of the game if Ayr had showed a bit more composure up front they could easily have had 6 or 7, while we could have managed a couple more goals ourself I suppose.

This post has been edited by Martin Nelson: 23 September 2007 - 10:55

[VoR]

bring_back_the_twa_hoops, on Sep 22 2007, 23:31, said:

If thats Ayr playing really well you have some shite team. You won because we gave you two goals of a start. Where did you see 7 goals coming from?

MonTheRovers!!, on Sep 23 2007, 09:40, said:

Also, i notice that apart from Ayr's three goals, they had no other shots on target.

I take it you boys left with the score at 3-0 and missed your woodwork saving you from a cricket score?

[Recre Rover]

Firstly my views on the Hislop:
Can't say I'm his biggest fan as a football player, but there is no point at all in booing him. Will it make him play better. No. Will it make the team play better. No. So why do it? I have to say though, Hislop shouldn't gesture to the fans - he should be a bigger person than that.

As for the game:
Have to say Fahey probably cost us the game. His two howlers gave the game the shape it had in the second half - had he made those two saves the game would have been completely different. The third seemed to go straight through his outstretched arms as well.

First half was an awful game. Second half was decent entertainment. We didn't really play great football in the second half, it was just classic "Up an at 'em" and gung-ho tactics. Which were effective, it must be said. But it also left gaps at the back which Ayr exploited. About 3-3 would have been a fair scoreline for the second half. I thought their was going to be a grandstand last 30 seconds at the end, but it wasn't to be.

It was a stonewall penalty - the ref must have been the only person in the ground that didn't think so. Fair play to the linesman though for pointing out his error.

Craig Wilson was my MOM, despite some wild shooting at times. Mark Campbell did alright as well. Thought Carcary made a difference when he came on. As Monster pointed out though, Marvin was awful. Craig Winter was pish too.

We deserved to lose yesterday, as we did last week too. A win is required next week.