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Champions League Draw Who would you like to see?

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Posted 30 August 2007 - 16:59

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Group of death for the Gers, Celtic should be able to get through, don't forget they drew with Milan twice as well last year.
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Posted 30 August 2007 - 17:00

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View PostFudge, on Aug 30 2007, 17:57, said:

There is no way Rangers will get through, Celtic do have a chance though.


Neither have much of a chance imo. Barcelona and AC are dead certs to go through in these groups and Shakhtar and Lyon and both better than the OF.
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Posted 30 August 2007 - 17:00

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Posted 30 August 2007 - 17:03

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celtic are playing teams the played last year and a team they played a few years ago. if i was a celtic fan id be dissapointed with that draw as i wouldnt get to go anywhere new.

rangers are humped but at least they have 6 huge games for the fans to enjoy.
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Posted 30 August 2007 - 17:04

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If Celtic can get away points, they're through, simple as that - they are not facing anything too daunting. Fcuk having Rangers group though - the only decent French team for fcuking years and Barca. What can I say?

Good luck to both.

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That’s their problem, although I cannot say i’m not enjoying what’s happening to them.

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There are probably one or two people out there enjoying it

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Posted 30 August 2007 - 17:23

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Lyon have been shit this year, though, and they'll still have two important players out injured for most of the group.
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Posted 30 August 2007 - 17:24

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In a slightly perverse way, I'm delighted with our group. We probably can only hope for 3rd, but what a group! Celtic have a very good chance of progressing.

Here's looking forward to a good campaign B)
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Posted 30 August 2007 - 17:28

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Big bucks for Rangers and great trips for the fans, with a chance of the UEFA Cup spot.
Celtic with their home record in Europe should qualify if picking up points away from home.

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Posted 30 August 2007 - 18:02

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Rangers would do excellent to pick up 4 points imo. But to be fair to Rangers I'm sure the three other teams in that group would've prefered another team.

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Posted 30 August 2007 - 18:47

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Ouch to Rangers.

Spanish Runners Up (should have been champions), French Champions and German champions. They are going to struggle to get a point with the system that Walter Smith plays in Europe.
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Posted 30 August 2007 - 19:42

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View PostEWS, on Aug 30 2007, 19:47, said:

Ouch to Rangers.

Spanish Runners Up (should have been champions), French Champions and German champions. They are going to struggle to get a point with the system that Walter Smith plays in Europe.


You obviously don't watch a lot of European league football.

Not saying Rangers will definitely go through, but neither Stuttgart nor Lyon have played well since their seasons started. I think Rangers can beat both of them at home. Barca is, of course, another story.
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Posted 30 August 2007 - 21:56

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I want Rangers to go through, but don't think they can. This season I think is about just getting there for Rangers and aiming for 3rd place, I think.

I do believe we can qualify though. We need to win in Donetsk though.

And someone up above compared Lyon and Shakhtar. WTF?! Lyon are FAR better than Shakhtar, and I believe Celtic are as well.
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View PostGallacticos, on Aug 31 2007, 11:56, said:

I want Rangers to go through, but don't think they can. This season I think is about just getting there for Rangers and aiming for 3rd place, I think.

I do believe we can qualify though. We need to win in Donetsk though.

And someone up above compared Lyon and Shakhtar. WTF?! Lyon are FAR better than Shakhtar, and I believe Celtic are as well.


Did you watch the Spartak game mate, we are going to be killed....we might pull off 3 points total for our group.? maybe
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Posted 31 August 2007 - 08:50

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View PostStewartyMac, on Aug 30 2007, 20:42, said:

You obviously don't watch a lot of European league football.

Not saying Rangers will definitely go through, but neither Stuttgart nor Lyon have played well since their seasons started. I think Rangers can beat both of them at home. Barca is, of course, another story.


If you are going to go down that route then neither have Barcalona. Only managing a 0-0 draw against Sociedad (who were down to 10 men). What about Valencia? Having their two best players sent off (Villa stupidly and Joaquian stupidly) and being beaten 3-0 at home. Guess they haven't had the best start to the season.

So I guess you should peer back into that crystal ball of yours and instead of making a statement of fact, make it a question. God I love having free setanta. Hell, if you want to make it a point - Barcalona had a terrible season last year and were quite poor. When they lost Eto'o for those months (and to some effect, Messi) they couldn't put the ball away. With Eto'o out again for a few months who knows what they are going to do.

However, you have to look at the tale of the tape. Look at what Lyon do every year in the group stages - they usually walk it. Barcalona - well you are stupid if you want to write them off so you have Stuttgart as the unknown quantity, but do Rangers have the quality to beat them playing one up front? No chance.

I also take you back to a few years ago when Liverpool won the CL. They weren't exactly setting the Premiership alight now were they? Beating Chelsea along the way (albeit a dodgy goal) but still managed to win the thing. Same can really be said about Arsenal when they reached the final, and even Liverpool last year.

My point? League form means dick when it comes to the champions league.
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Posted 05 September 2007 - 10:49

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Lyon have won their last 3 league matches and are currently sitting 5th with a game in hand (against 2nd bottom Lens at home). Taking that game as a win, they jump to 2nd.

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That’s their problem, although I cannot say i’m not enjoying what’s happening to them.

Sally@Mar,2012 said:

There are probably one or two people out there enjoying it

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Posted 05 September 2007 - 11:13

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View PostStewartyMac, on Aug 30 2007, 20:42, said:

You obviously don't watch a lot of European league football.

Not saying Rangers will definitely go through, but neither Stuttgart nor Lyon have played well since their seasons started. I think Rangers can beat both of them at home. Barca is, of course, another story.


I don't really consider league football when going into any cup competition. These games are always one off games that you step your game up for. Liverpool weren't exactly amazing in the Premiership for the last few seasons, but they managed to make the final twice.
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Posted 05 September 2007 - 17:40

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Celtic have a chance

its a tougher group than last year but Celtic are on a similar level to Benfica and Shaktar and since there poor away form surely cant continue and they managed to qualify with such a poor away form they have a chance

I personally think they will struggle because they have had so many big games in the CL and come through them but to say they have no chance is a bit off the mark

Rangers will definetly struggle, they are immediately fighting for 3rd place and i think they will do well to even get that

thats just the way i see things tho
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Posted 05 September 2007 - 18:18

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Rangers should be getting third at the moment - Stuttgart won a manic Bundesliga last season and are struggling so far.
They'll be losing at Ibrox for sure.
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View PostEWS, on Aug 31 2007, 09:50, said:

When they lost Eto'o for those months (and to some effect, Messi) they couldn't put the ball away. With Eto'o out again for a few months who knows what they are going to do.


Dont you think Henry will be an adequate replacement :rolleyes:
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Posted 12 September 2007 - 06:40

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View Postpollymac, on Aug 30 2007, 16:40, said:

Group A
Liverpool
Porto
Marseille
BJK

Group B
Chelsea
Valencia
Schalke
Rosenborg

Group C
Real Madrid
Werder Bremen
Lazio
Olympiakos

Group D
Milan
Benfica
Celtic
Shakhtar Donetsk

new faces all around :lol:

Group E
Barcelona
Lyon
VfB Stuttgart
Rangers

Group F
ManUtd
Roma
SP Lisbon
Dynamo Kiev

Group G
Inter
PSV
CSKA Moscow
Fenerbahce

Group H
Arsenal
Sevilla/AEK
Steaua Bucharest
Slavia Praha

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Posted 12 September 2007 - 08:17

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View PostGallacticos, on Aug 30 2007, 22:56, said:

I want Rangers to go through, but don't think they can. This season I think is about just getting there for Rangers and aiming for 3rd place, I think.

I do believe we can qualify though. We need to win in Donetsk though.

And someone up above compared Lyon and Shakhtar. WTF?! Lyon are FAR better than Shakhtar, and I believe Celtic are as well.


Dont agree with that. I reckon 2 points from 1st 2 games would be a great start(Shakhtar away, Milan home) And 4 from 3 would be superb (add in Benfica away)

If we can get 4 from our 1st 3 games that would leave us needing to beat Shakhtar and Benfica at home to give us the 10 points which should guarantee qualification.
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