[pollymac]

here's the pots (roughly - and based on seeded teams qualifying tonight):
Pot 1 - AC Milan, Barca, Liverpool, Inter, Arsenal, Real Madrid, Chelski, Manure
Pot 2 - Valencia, Lyon, Porto, Sevilla, PSV, Roma, Benfica, Ajax
Pot 3 - Werder Bremen, ra Shellick, Schalke ,Stuttgart, Steaua Bucharest, CSKA Moscow, SP Lisbon, Lazio
Pot 4 - Marseille, Rankgers, Shakhtar, Besiktas, Olympiakos, Anderlecht, Dynamo Kiev, Tampere (ahem, Rosenborg)

So, assuming ra Shellick get there, I'd like to see:
Barcelona, Roma, ra Shellick, Marseille
&
AC Milan, Valencia, Werder Bremen, Rankgers

Mibbees get a wee bit of null points going on

[vikingTON]

pollymac, on Aug 29 2007, 18:04, said:

here's the pots (roughly - and based on seeded teams qualifying tonight):
Pot 1 - AC Milan, Barca, Liverpool, Inter, Arsenal, Real Madrid, Chelski, Manure
Pot 2 - Valencia, Lyon, Porto, Sevilla, PSV, Roma, Benfica, Ajax
Pot 3 - Werder Bremen, ra Shellick, Schalke ,Stuttgart, Steaua Bucharest, CSKA Moscow, SP Lisbon, Lazio
Pot 4 - Marseille, Rankgers, Shakhtar, Besiktas, Olympiakos, Anderlecht, Dynamo Kiev, Tampere (ahem, Rosenborg)

So, assuming ra Shellick get there, I'd like to see:
Barcelona, Roma, ra Shellick, Marseille
&
AC Milan, Valencia, Werder Bremen, Rankgers

Mibbees get a wee bit of null points going on

But Sevilla haven't qualifid and can't do so until Monday.
If AEK Athens win they'd go into Pot 4 methinks.
This is a right balls-up.

[pollymac]

vikingTON, on Aug 29 2007, 18:09, said:

But Sevilla haven't qualifid and can't do so until Monday.
If AEK Athens win they'd go into Pot 4 methinks.
This is a right balls-up.

I think Uefa are giving AEK the same seeding as Sevilla for the draw, placing them in Pot 2, as well as ensuring that neither is drawn against Spanish or Greek opposition.

[vikingTON]

pollymac, on Aug 29 2007, 18:16, said:

I think Uefa are giving AEK the same seeding as Sevilla for the draw, placing them in Pot 2, as well as ensuring that neither is drawn against Spanish or Greek opposition.

But AEK would be a shockingly bad 2nd seed.

[Cowanthebluenose]

vikingTON, on Aug 29 2007, 18:18, said:

But AEK would be a shockingly bad 2nd seed.

And I hope we get them !

[pollymac]

vikingTON, on Aug 29 2007, 18:18, said:

But AEK would be a shockingly bad 2nd seed.

I think Uefa should fix the draw to allow the team that tops pot 3 be in the same group as Sevilla/AEK. That way, if Sevilla qualify, then there's no change really. But if AEK qualify, then the top pot3 team stays in pot 3 (which would be a bit shitty), but is compensated by being grouped with a pot 1 team and two pot 4's.

Who's top of pot 3 btw?

[pollymac]

confirmed that Uefa have given AEK the same seeding as Sevilla. Someone could be getting an easy group.

If AEK get through, I think both Celtic and Rangers, and indeed the Scottish clubs in general that rely on OF co-eff points for seeding, have good reason to feel aggrieved as both top their pots and would've moved up in the event of an AEK win.

This post has been edited by pollymac: 30 August 2007 - 10:50

[KnightswoodBear]

No matter who we get it'll be a difficult group. I don't think it's impossible that we could progress though, but it would be a hell of an achievement if we do.

From the top pot, I've always wanted to see Madrid or Barca play in the flesh, so I'd like one of those two. Can't be arsed drawing an English team and all the "Battle of Britain" shite that goes with it.

[NEVERBELIEVER]

Currencyboy, on Aug 30 2007, 13:49, said:

No matter who we get it'll be a difficult group. I don't think it's impossible that we could progress though, but it would be a hell of an achievement if we do.

From the top pot, I've always wanted to see Madrid or Barca play in the flesh, so I'd like one of those two. Can't be arsed drawing an English team and all the "Battle of Britain" shite that goes with it.

us Celts get to see Barca on a regular basis . I too would love to get Madrid and avoid all the English shit .

[KnightswoodBear]

NEVERBELIEVER, on Aug 30 2007, 14:44, said:

us Celts get to see Barca on a regular basis .

True, only because you've been lucky/unlucky enough to be drawn against them a couple of times over the last few years. The two Spanish giants are about the only two teams left on my "wish list" of European teams that I haven't seen yet.

I just don't want any of the English mob, as we get enough of them on Sky as it is, and Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool bore me to tears.

[dubs]

AEK won't go through though. Why even talk about it

[Swampy]

If I was a Person, I'd like to see:

Arsenal, Werder, Marseille, Rangers

As I think Rangers could get 2nd place in that group if they're lucky.

If I was a Victim, I'd choose:

Arsenal, Werder, Celtic, Olympiacos

[AlbionMan]

However the draw pans out, both of them will do very well to get into the UEFA cup. I'd like to see both get through or both failing, the successful club's supporters would be unbearable if they had an edge on the other lot.

Amend that to say ........ even more unbearable than usual.

[staggy4life]

here we go..........

[pollymac]

Group A
Liverpool
Porto
Marseille
BJK

Group B
Chelsea
Valencia
Schalke
Rosenborg

Group C
Real Madrid
Werder Bremen
Lazio
Olympiakos

Group D
Milan
Benfica
Celtic
Shakhtar Donetsk

new faces all around

Group E
Barcelona
Lyon
VfB Stuttgart
Rangers

Group F
ManUtd
Roma
SP Lisbon
Dynamo Kiev

Group G
Inter
PSV
CSKA Moscow
Fenerbahce

Group H
Arsenal
Sevilla/AEK
Steaua Bucharest
Slavia Praha

This post has been edited by pollymac: 30 August 2007 - 16:55

[BishyTON]

It's Group H or bust for Rangers.

[Bloobell]

BishopTON, on Aug 30 2007, 17:47, said:

It's Group H or bust for Rangers.

I want A or G

[Enigma]

Rangers will not qualify Celtic may have a tough time aswell!

[Savage Henry]

Celtic have a far better chance than Rangers, I would say.

[Bloobell]

Enigma, on Aug 30 2007, 17:54, said:

Rangers will not qualify Celtic may have a tough time aswell!

Tiugh group for Rangers but from a fans perspective they're all easy to get to

Sellick have a tougher travelling regime but bigger grounds so tickets should be OK

[Fudge]

There is no way Rangers will get through, Celtic do have a chance though.