The Grass Is Greener. Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Yes you did. Sometimes loading bodies into your weaker areas can help you. Strength in numbers. Let's fire more shite defenders in with the shite ones we have, it'll defo work? Or some more shite non-scoring strikers up there with Fletcher, that'll work as well. We play to our strengths, we're just not very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Let's fire more shite defenders in with the shite ones we have, it'll defo work? Basically Mixu Paatelainen tactics. Worked for Dundee United like.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gav-ffc Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Who needs a midfield when we can lump the ball to fletcher? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinkinFighter Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 We play the best system for the players available. I couldn't imagine us playing a 442 with the players we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiviLion Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 4-6-0 IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gav-ffc Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 He then passes it back to our defence and then to our goalkeeper and repeat. I see your point Too far. He wouldn't control the ball and we would be on the back foot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haggisbeastie Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Too far. He wouldn't control the ball and we would be on the back foot. We should not forget that Fletcher had a part in a number of goals in last campaign. It is the poor defending at most of the goals we lost that ultimately cost us... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grass Is Greener. Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 We should not forget that Fletcher had a part in a number of goals in last campaign. It is the poor defending at most of the goals we lost that ultimately cost us... 7 at the back. Strength in numbers will sort that out imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eez-eh Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 I don't think 5-3-2/3-5-2 is the worst shout considering our full backs are pretty attacking and both Martin and Mulgrew are used to playing in their respective full back positions as well as central defence, so might be ideal for either side of a back 3 with Hanley in the middle. However ideally in that formation you want one of the midfielders to be able to drop back into defence when the wing backs bomb forward. I'm not sure who in our midfield would be ideal at doing that. Mulgrew is maybe the best shout for that but not if he's already playing in defence obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergie's no1 fan Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Usual over the top reply from Random guy. Spain and Germany have better players than us. My point which you obviously missed is how are countries with players you wouldn't say were better than ours getting to major tournaments playing attacking formations. We haven't qualified for 18 years because we play negative, backs to the wall football. Got to disagree there, the last time we qualified 18 years ago was because we did play negative backs to the wall football. Craig Brown was ultra cautious who had a squad of 20 or so players playing at a good level. Also, lucky to beat Ireland at Parkhead? There was only one team trying to play decent attacking football and they didn't play in green. If anything Irelands 4-4-2 set up is more negative than our set up, they just bypass the midfield with good old fashioned hoofball O'Neil style. We sometimes need 2 holding midfielders because our full backs are so attacking, if its Hutton and Robertson that are playing (pretty sure it was them 2 that played against Ireland at Parkhead?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worktheshaft Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Surely the problem is Strachans insistence on playing the old guard? These players have failed to qualify time and time again time to bring some new blood in imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woof! Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Marshall Paterson Souttar Hanley Tierney McLeod McGinn Gauld Burke Watt McKay Just throwing it out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Marshall Paterson Souttar Hanley Tierney McLeod McGinn Gauld Burke Watt McKay Just throwing it out there. I'd fancy Malta and Lithuania to give that side a good game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Problemo Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 We aren't even that defensive under Strachan, most of the time our problem was conceding. Our wide players often leave our wide players completely exposed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Only one David Marsh Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 If we'd play to our strengths we'd stand a chance I would say Romania aren't any better than us but still managed to give France a game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 If we'd play to our strengths we'd stand a chance I would say Romania aren't any better than us but still managed to give France a game What exactly are our strengths? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiviLion Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 I don't think 5-3-2/3-5-2 is the worst shout Didn't Gibraltar score against us when we tried that or were we playing something else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eez-eh Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Didn't Gibraltar score against us when we tried that or were we playing something else? We were playing 3 at the back but nothing like what's being discussed here. It was essentially one centre back, Martin, with two full backs, Hutton and Robertson, and no wing backs. Why Strachan thought that was a good idea I'll never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killienick Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Didn't Gibraltar score against us when we tried that or were we playing something else? Think we started with 3 at the back against Gibraltar but at times it was 2 or 1. I've thought for a while that we should go 5-3-2 as we just aren't very good defensively. It would allow us to double up more but I think Strachan's problem would be trying to accommodate Brown, Fletcher, Morrison, Ritchie, and Maloney etc in that system. A couple of our 'bigger' players will miss out. Personally I'd like to see something along the lines of; Marshall Anya Mulgrew Hanley Berra Robertson Snodgrass Fletcher Ritchie Griffiths Naismith This isn't necessarily what I'd start with for every game but the above formation would definitely be worth a crack IMO. ETA: Swap Mulgrew and Berra for balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordopolis Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 We aren't even that defensive under Strachan, most of the time our problem was conceding. Our wide players often leave our wide players completely exposed. Er... so our wide players are exposing themselves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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