HTG Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 The danger is of course that playing without a permit may invalid your insurance. It's easier for the SJFA to clarify that any club can play from 1st July onwards, and take the decision away from the Regions. We're talking about playing a game of fitba here, why should anyone stop that from happening if a club wants to. Maybe a club like Lithgae can lead the way :-) Agreed on all fronts. I'm just being petty about it because the whole issue seems very petty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-german exile Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 Surely if games were able to start earlier then the season could finish earlier? Therefore no need to be playing finals during the knockout stages of euro champs and world cups.The benefits of starting the season earlier are obvious. It's the practically of doing it that's the problem.Although the others on here are debating being able to play friendlies earlier. The fact that they can't is totally unacceptable imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted May 4, 2016 Author Share Posted May 4, 2016 The thing is, when you're trying to arrange pre-season friendlies against Lowland League/East of Scotland League clubs, they can play whenever they like, but we're restricted to the 3rd Saturday in July, so this year it would be the 16th. We played an English club from Carlisle last pre-season and we had to tell them how we were restricted as to when we could start playing, it was embarrassing Let's get rid of it this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmontheloknow Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 Binning the Sectional Cups in West would be a start. They're treated as a pre-season programme by clubs that start badly anyway so taking that away might encourage better use of the proper pre-season games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertha/BJFC1938 Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 Any setup that has Clubs playing Saturday - monday -Wednesday -saturday-monday -Wednesday -Saturday -Monday etc at the most decisive point of the season is totally screwed up. Time for a top league of 16 with cups being ditched and more midweek games at the start of the Season ï¸as at present the whole thing is a mockery at this stage of the season with everything crammed in. It's a farce. And it's also a hit for the the fans too at £6 a go and also travel costs factored in . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surely not! Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 The benefits of starting the season earlier are obvious. It's the practically of doing it that's the problem. Although the others on here are debating being able to play friendlies earlier. The fact that they can't is totally unacceptable imho. What's the practicality problems? Every other league in the uk manages it- the difficulty for the juniors was the fact that games couldn't start Til later which pushes the competitive games back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Raven Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 Your players also wouldn't be covered by insurance if you play without a permit. Peasy, can you shed more light on what insurance exactly ? Is this arranged by each club, is it mandatory and what does it cover ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted May 5, 2016 Author Share Posted May 5, 2016 What's the practicality problems? Every other league in the uk manages it- the difficulty for the juniors was the fact that games couldn't start Til later which pushes the competitive games back. If friendlies opened on 1st July, then you could bring the season kick off forward to the last Saturday in July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sctv Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Forget about bringing the season forward for now let's concentrate on doing the sensible thing of allowing friendlies for those who want them. There is no viable reason this shouldn't be permitted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted May 5, 2016 Author Share Posted May 5, 2016 Forget about bringing the season forward for now let's concentrate on doing the sensible thing of allowing friendlies for those who want them. There is no viable reason this shouldn't be permitted It goes hand-in-hand, allowing clubs to start their pre-season preparation earlier provides the fixtures secretary with a bit of flexibility in getting the serious stuff a week or two early. ie this year ko could be 30th July as opposed to 6th August. Either way, this needs passed at the AGM's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted May 28, 2016 Author Share Posted May 28, 2016 It goes hand-in-hand, allowing clubs to start their pre-season preparation earlier provides the fixtures secretary with a bit of flexibility in getting the serious stuff a week or two early. ie this year ko could be 30th July as opposed to 6th August. Either way, this needs passed at the AGM's Hopefully the Regions are enlightened enough to allow clubs to begin from 1st July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted June 23, 2016 Author Share Posted June 23, 2016 Credit to the East Region for bringing the opening of the season forward a week to Saturday 9th July, giving four Saturdays of pre-season before the competitive fixtures start on 6th August. Not quite 1st July, but it's a start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRICEY Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Credit to the East Region for bringing the opening of the season forward a week to Saturday 9th July, giving four Saturdays of pre-season before the competitive fixtures start on 6th August. Not quite 1st July, but it's a start. Would have thought this would have to be a Scottish decision?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted June 23, 2016 Author Share Posted June 23, 2016 Would have thought this would have to be a Scottish decision?. The SJFA allow the Regions to decide themselves when to start, from 1st July onwards. The East Region decided on second Saturday for next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRICEY Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Cheers,always thought the third Saturday rule was a SJFA constitutional issue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Ultimately it still is. Until last year it was 3rd Saturday in July SJFA-wide but last year it was decided to let each region set their own start no earlier than July 1st (IIRC). North region went for 1st Saturday in July - but East and West stuck with 3rd Saturday. From what Burnie is saying East has now gone 2nd Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clash city rocker Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Credit to the East Region for bringing the opening of the season forward a week to Saturday 9th July, giving four Saturdays of pre-season before the competitive fixtures start on 6th August. Not quite 1st July, but it's a start. No need for a month of kick about friendlies. You can play Mon, Wed , Sat at that time. Season should start last Saturday in July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted June 23, 2016 Author Share Posted June 23, 2016 No need for a month of kick about friendlies. You can play Mon, Wed , Sat at that time. Season should start last Saturday in July. You should be able to play whenever you want, just like "senior" fitba. If you don't want to play, you don't play. Agree that perhaps the competitive season could start a week earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ilford Drummer Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 The East are allowed a free vote without fear of repercussions from the top, not so in the West. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clash city rocker Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 You should be able to play whenever you want, just like "senior" fitba. If you don't want to play, you don't play. Agree that perhaps the competitive season could start a week earlier. Agree you should be able to play whenever you want. My point is that 4 weeks of friendlies when pitches are playable,weather great for supporters should be put to better use...like playing competitive matches. Have a break in January and play friendlies if you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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