Burghstag Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 To me it looks almost certain that Rangers will be playing in the Premier League next season; either through winning the Championship or through the play off. I work with two Rangers followers; followers because between them they have managed 1 game (between them) in the 6 years I have known them and that was the recent Falkirk game. They are rubbing their hands with glee at the prospect of playing in the premier next season believing that they are going to easily compete with Celtic for the title - everyone else has been dismissed as not good enough already. This is being based on the two recent games where we knocked them out of the cup and Aberdeen's win in the league last night. They also believed that they were the only team capable of stopping Celtics treble this season, until the mighty stags stepped up. I had a bit of a debate with them as I feel they are getting their hopes up a little and could end up disappointing themselves. I by no means think that Rangers will struggle however I did say that for me it is impossible to tell from the level they are playing in at the moment how next season will go and until they are there playing who knows. However as things stand there are 3 teams straight away that I feel Rangers would struggle against - everyone else they would probably compete with - winning and suffering the odd defeat (like everyone else) but probably ending up in 4th / 5th spot. Celtic have slipped under Deila, think most Celtic fans can see that?, but I don't think he will be there next season and Celtic will find someone who is able to make them into a stronger unit again (Stubbs?), they will also outspend every other team including Rangers. Mcinnes has created a good team at Aberdeen, they will be just as strong if not stronger next season if they can keep what they have and add a couple more players to their squad - lack a bit of depth for me. Hugely impressed by Hearts and they way they have done things and at the moment they look like only growing stronger also. 1.5m for Sow - wow. My reasoning was not taken on board, I do not see much wrong with it and I struggle to take the opinion of people who barely go to watch their team that seriously - what do Rangers fans on here that do watch their team week in / week out think. Am I doing you a great disrespect or am I being overly generous. No trolling, just genuinely interested in how things may shape up next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmeat Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Next season I reckon we'll come third. We'll strengthen and be stronger than Hearts I think but will be behind Aberdeen and Celtic for another year or two. Unless Deila keeps his job in which case we'll come second. I go to every home game and occasionally away games so I do see the team very regularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Next season I reckon we'll come third. We'll strengthen and be stronger than Hearts I think but will be behind Aberdeen and Celtic for another year or two. Unless Deila keeps his job in which case we'll come second. I go to every home game and occasionally away games so I do see the team very regularly. You won't finish above us next season. The only direction Hearts are going is up and at a much faster rate than your (still a) joke club. Shite like Danny Wilson still marshaling your defence and Kenny Miller up top ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmeat Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 You won't finish above us next season. The only direction Hearts are going is up and at a much faster rate than your (still a) joke club. Shite like Danny Wilson still marshaling your defence and Kenny Miller up top ffs. Really? We're doing better right now than you did last season and I expect us to be at least on par next season. We clearly have a bigger transfer budget to improve our squad despite you getting £1.5m for Sow. And I expect Wilson to be replaced in the summer and Kenny Miller will be moving out our first team for O'Halloran in the next few weeks. If we only we had that young fox Don Cowie but eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DA Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Really? We're doing better right now than you did last season and I expect us to be at least on par next season. We clearly have a bigger transfer budget to improve our squad despite you getting £1.5m for Sow. And I expect Wilson to be replaced in the summer and Kenny Miller will be moving out our first team for O'Halloran in the next few weeks. If we only we had that young fox Don Cowie but eh? Feckin hell. You're a year behind Hearts, ya numpty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmeat Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Feckin hell. You're a year behind Hearts, ya numpty. I stated that I imagine we'll be at least on par due to the fact we will pay transfer fees and not rely on only free transfers and development fees for our players. Also the fact we are slightly ahead of where they were last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waspie Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 I stated that I imagine we'll be at least on par due to the fact we will pay transfer fees and not rely on only free transfers and development fees for our players. Also the fact we are slightly ahead of where they were last season. I'd suggest the league was better last season. The St.Mirren team who came down are nowhere near the level of the Hearts side that went up. A very good QoS side lost a lot of key players. The sides competing for 4th this season are a long way short of that QoS side, in fact from 4th to 9th there isn't much in it at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmeat Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 I'd suggest the league was better last season. The St.Mirren team who came down are nowhere near the level of the Hearts side that went up. A very good QoS side lost a lot of key players. The sides competing for 4th this season are a long way short of that QoS side, in fact from 4th to 9th there isn't much in it at all. Morton have improved on Cowdenbeath but. Falkirk have also improved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 What P&Bers often refer to as The SPL is largely a football-free zone. I've watched a few 'SPL' games this season and it seems like a different sport compared to watching Rangers. Last night's match summed it up perfectly. Apart from Hayes managing to kick the ball quite hard and in the right direction it was fucking dire. I was sure the ghost of Gregor Stevens was somewhere about Pittodrie so reminiscent of the 1980s was it. Big lardy-arsed blokes blootering the ball with little sense of direction and Light Brigade-type cavalry charges. So how will we handle it next season? Based on our current team, not well. We will be kicked off the park and our defence won't handle the 'kick and hope' morons as seen in the St J match. How will Mark W's football philosophy handle it? Brilliantly. Playing the ball fast on the deck is absolutely the right way to go. We do, though, need to augment our personnel somewhat but if we're not Top 3 next season I'll buy a Sellick Onsie and wear it to the pub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC92 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Really? We're doing better right now than you did last season and I expect us to be at least on par next season. We clearly have a bigger transfer budget to improve our squad despite you getting £1.5m for Sow. And I expect Wilson to be replaced in the summer and Kenny Miller will be moving out our first team for O'Halloran in the next few weeks. If we only we had that young fox Don Cowie but eh? Nope. After 23 games: Rangers - 59 Heart of Midlothian - 60 (in an undoubtedly stronger league) We also went on to win each of the following 8 games after that so you've got a bit to go to be doing better than Hearts last season. We've improved since last year and I expect us to improve again next year. Obviously Rangers will be a force next season but they'll need to add a few players, particularly at the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmeat Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Nope. After 23 games: Rangers - 59 Heart of Midlothian - 60 (in an undoubtedly stronger league) We also went on to win each of the following 8 games after that so you've got a bit to go to be doing better than Hearts last season. We've improved since last year and I expect us to improve again next year. Obviously Rangers will be a force next season but they'll need to add a few players, particularly at the back. Fair enough there. I looked at the dates rather than the games played which looking back would have been an easier option. Stronger? An improved Falkirk and Morton who are 10x better than Cowdenbeath who've dropped out - loss of Hearts for St Mirren evens it out as around the same IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 What P&Bers often refer to as The SPL is largely a football-free zone. It's a pet hate of mine, but media figures are more guilty of it in my experience than "P&Bers'. It's worse when they think they're being smart and modern and instead call the top flight the SPFL. I think you see Rangers as a more expansive team than they are because the bulk of their games are still mis-matches. When pitched regularly against stronger sides, I think it's likely that we'll see them involved in some pretty poor matches too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BankieBear Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 The defence in recent weeks has actually looked a lot more solid and there is a bit of confidence the we won't concede. Tav kiernan and Wallace will all be starters next season. I could happily do without Wilson and replace him with an older (28-29) experienced centre half. Do that and add a powerful defensive midfielder (might be crooks) and we look a much stronger unit. It will be a tough ask but depends on the quality of player we are able to bring in in the summer. We have the basis of a very good young squad. Build that midfield around Holt imo. Think we could do with purchasing an out and out goalscorer. We do pass up a lot of good chances and waghorn has impressed more drifting in from the right. I'm excited about the rest of this season and next. I'm sure there will be plenty of exciting games to come. Would fancy our chances against celtic right now mind you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waspie Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Morton have improved on Cowdenbeath but. Falkirk have also improved. Morton are better than Cowdenbeath. Falkirk are better than they were but still an average side. The fact that they are up pushing Rangers and Hibs is another example of the league being weaker. There aren't as many good sides at the top and the standard amongst the rest isn't as good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC92 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Fair enough there. I looked at the dates rather than the games played which looking back would have been an easier option. Stronger? An improved Falkirk and Morton who are 10x better than Cowdenbeath who've dropped out - loss of Hearts for St Mirren evens it out as around the same IMO. We picked up a grand total of 1 draw and 1 defeat out of 28 games against teams outside Hibs and Rangers. We were extremely good at beating the teams we should have beaten (including taking 12 points from a Queen of the South team which isn't much different to this year's Falkirk team IMO) and swapping Morton for Cowdenbeath wouldn't really have made much of a difference (aside from goal difference, possibly). Perhaps the lower-mid section of the league is stronger but that's not as relevant as the weakening at the top end of the league. Like I say, I think Rangers (along with Hibs, to a lesser extent, if they come up) will be a force next season and I don't think Aberdeen are necessarily certs for 2nd place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 I think you see Rangers as a more expansive team than they are because the bulk of their games are still mis-matches. When pitched regularly against stronger sides, I think it's likely that we'll see them involved in some pretty poor matches too. The fare served up by Rangers vs Falkirk on Tuesday was much better than anything I've seen in 'top tier' games this season. We'll have to adapt our style a little and augment the squad somewhat but I'm sure we'll perform well, to the chagrin of the 'hoof and hope' mob of 'the spl/spfl'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 DEAD CLUBS CANNAE FUCKING PLAY IN ANY LEAGUE . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobWilliamson Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Rangers are far stronger than they were last season. HIbs are far better than they were last season as are Falkirk.. There is absolutely no doubt the top of the Championship is far stronger this season. There is a Championship team in the final of the first major cup tournament. QoS are weaker but other than that the rest are much of a muchness. Let's get this season out the way before we start worrying about where Rangersare going to be next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 That was some read btw, and I did manage to read it all. All the Bears who post on here seem proper good lads, I don't know any of them, we don't expect, we don't demand, we are Rangers, and that is enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Just to add, those that don't support Rangers, but follow every single minute detail of every ball kicked, who hope desperately to feel wanted and acknowledged on here when it comes to our Club and Team, it's best to accept their sorrowful pity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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