Lex Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Just watched football league tonight for the first time. First game Burnley, top of the Championship. Win again today, playing well, six wins in a row. Almost certain to be back in the EPL next season. Arfield and Boyd starting every week. Neither of them can get in a 32 man Scotland squad though. Arfield is behind the likes of McGinn and McLean FS Arfield has had the kind of career both of them are dreaming of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOW87 Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Think the problem might be that we will have no players at all playing in the top league in England next season Hardly. Morrison and Fletcher at West Brom. Ritchie at Bournemouth. Bardsley and Adam at Stoke. McArthur at Palace. Anya at Watford. If Norwich stay up, Martin, Whittaker, Dorrans and Naismith. At least two of Burnley, Hull, Brighton and Middlesbrough likely to go up so several of Boyd, Arfield, Gilkes, McGregor, Maloney, Snodgrass, Greer and Rhodes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoRaj Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 Just watched football league tonight for the first time. First game Burnley, top of the Championship. Win again today, playing well, six wins in a row. Almost certain to be back in the EPL next season. Arfield and Boyd starting every week. Neither of them can get in a 32 man Scotland squad though. Arfield is behind the likes of McGinn and McLean FS Arfield has had the kind of career both of them are dreaming of. Arfield has played one season in the premier league struggled to get a game for Huddersfield in league one at times. He also got relegated from the spl in his time at Falkirk. I'm sure McGinn probably dreams of higher ambitions than that. George Boyd is 30 years old and again has played most of his football at championship level or lower. Fair enough if they were youngsters and had a chance of pushing their way into the team but I just can't see it at their age Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971 Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 I have sympathy with the view that things like the granny rule devalue international football. If I had my way I'd make at least 5 years residency the only way to be eligible to play for that country. I don't have it my way though, so I'm happy enough to accept whatever quality players come our way. What I don't like, though, is the wining and dining of mediocre players from elsewhere to try to convince them to play for us. It's just not necessary. So someone born abroad to Scottish parents and raised to consider themselves Scottish shouldn't qualify to play for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 Arfield has played one season in the premier league struggled to get a game for Huddersfield in league one at times. He also got relegated from the spl in his time at Falkirk. I'm sure McGinn probably dreams of higher ambitions than that. George Boyd is 30 years old and again has played most of his football at championship level or lower. Fair enough if they were youngsters and had a chance of pushing their way into the team but I just can't see it at their age Arfields only 27, could easily have five years in the squad. I cannot believe him and Cairney were overlooked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woof! Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 Arfields only 27, could easily have five years in the squad. I cannot believe him and Cairney were overlooked. Arfield isn't good enough. Much better to introduce young players with more potential. McGinn could be a really top player - he's got physical presence and ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoRaj Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 Arfields only 27, could easily have five years in the squad. I cannot believe him and Cairney were overlooked. I have to say I thought he was older than that. I'm actually a fan of his, I just thought he was nearer 30. I've always found his exclusion puzzling just because of his versatility, he can pretty much play anywhere in midfield or just behind the striker. I don't think he will ever be first choice though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P45 Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 The Scottish Championship is an atrocious standard. Strachan is looking for a payoff with picking players from that league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 Arfield isn't good enough. Much better to introduce young players with more potential. McGinn could be a really top player - he's got physical presence and ability. McGinn was part of a side relegated from the Premiership and has spent the season playing for a side third in the Championship. Theres absolutely no chance hes more deserving of a call up than Arfield and Cairney. For all this hype and bluster, McGinn isn't ever going to be anything better than a lower end EPL player at the very best, while Cairney especially could be more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woof! Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 McGinn has better physique and presence than Cairney with comparable ability. He also seems to have leadership qualities. No contest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 McGinn has better physique and presence than Cairney with comparable ability. He also seems to have leadership qualities. No contest. Cairney is miles ahead of McGinn on the ball, and off it. Its embarrassing how highly McGinns being rated, as hes incredibly fucking average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinkinFighter Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 He sounded thick as f**k on the tele there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woof! Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 Cairney is miles ahead of McGinn on the ball, and off it. Its embarrassing how highly McGinns being rated, as hes incredibly fucking average. Potty mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpoonTon Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 The Scottish Championship is an atrocious standard. Strachan is looking for a payoff with picking players from that league. I agree with that. Kenny Miller is a stand out player at this level. He's been the best player I've seen against Morton this season. And no one in their right mind would be looking for him to be recalled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 John McGinn spends his afternoon being ragdolled about by Jackson Irvine, further highlighting the complete joke his call up is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoRaj Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 I agree with that. Kenny Miller is a stand out player at this level. He's been the best player I've seen against Morton this season. And no one in their right kind would be looking for him to be recalled. Well that's a daft comparison. The idea is that McGinn has the potential to play at a much higher level so will be involved in the future. Pretty standard to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordopolis Posted March 13, 2016 Author Share Posted March 13, 2016 New campaign around the corner. Build up friendlies next week. Cannae wait. Yas, bring it on! ... ... http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/teams/scotland/gordon-strachan-i-have-few-illusions-over-quality-1-4064996 ...oh ffs. Are we any good at dominoes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny131 Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 Chris Martin is not the answer for scotland, it's even more annoying when WGS says he can't fit Rhodes into our system and yet keeps picking the overweight cart horse that is Chris Martin. Honking footballer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpoonTon Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 Well that's a daft comparison. The idea is that McGinn has the potential to play at a much higher level so will be involved in the future. Pretty standard to be honest. Then involve him in the future. His place is with the u21s right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Medeiros Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 John McGinn spends his afternoon being ragdolled about by Jackson Irvine, further highlighting the complete joke his call up is. You're being a bit unkind. Denmark / Czechs won't exactly be man-marking him; plus I thought he had a few nice moments in the first half. He's raw but clearly with ability. Reminds me a little of Stephen Pearson breaking through at Motherwell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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