Doc Sportello Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Not even close. That title goes to the welsh. They have been close many times the last 20 years including a play off. So have Scotland, thicko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ro Sham Bo Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 I really think we are. I know you may not be thinking rationally just now, but that is nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Stubbs Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 A youth team coach who doesn't play 6"0 guys because they're not tall enough just got a promotion by us. There's nothing unlucky about it, our football has just been left behind in the last twenty years. We're shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeboy Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 I really think we are. Lack of belief is rife in Scotland. Last euros... injury time pen for Czechs. Happens far too oftenPartick would win the league if their goalkeeper was better at saving all those shots that keep going in the goal. Unluckiest team in club football, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawfieldAggro Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 The Euros will be a better place without such a fucking shite shower of rank amateurs AND their sycophantic fuckwit disciples. Absolutely terrible terrible football team. A disgrace to their sport and to their communities. Well done The Oirish and Ze Poles. Even Strachan the Ducker can't face his people now!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted October 8, 2015 Author Share Posted October 8, 2015 I know you may not be thinking rationally just now, but that is nonsense. Suppose. Just annoyed. Football is our national sport and we are awful. No accountability in SFA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted October 8, 2015 Author Share Posted October 8, 2015 Partick would win the league if their goalkeeper was better at saving all those shots that keep going in the goal. Unluckiest team in club football, IMO. Fair point. Just pissed off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitnail Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 We've been incredibly unlucky in this campaign. It would be very disingenous to suggest otherwise. But we'll make it to a tournament, and soon, and the self hating fans will look as stupid as those calling for Fletcher to be dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted October 8, 2015 Author Share Posted October 8, 2015 We've been incredibly unlucky in this campaign. It would be very disingenous to suggest otherwise. But we'll make it to a tournament, and soon, and the self hating fans will look as stupid as those calling for Fletcher to be dropped. Last euros took a 92nd min Czech dive to deny us in last game. Does tend to happen a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killiefan27 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 The fact of the matter is, we are just not good enough, and we have consistently not been good enough. There's been all this talk of the "progress" we've made under Gordon Strachan. What progress? We've had another fourth-placed finish, we've taken one point from a possible 12. No-one can doubt the effort of the players, they just aren't good enough. Scott Brown, Grant Hanley, Alan Hutton... guys who can't control a ball or make a basic pass. That said, you can't absolve the management of blame. I can appreciate the idea of having a base of players, to get some cohesion into the team, but Strachan is just stubborn. What would Brown have to do to get dropped?! We aren't very good, but we could at least be well-organised and hard to beat, and the fact is that we aren't. Our players seem to have no idea about shape or tactics, partly because it's clearly not drilled into them at club level, but Strachan clearly doesn't do enough on it either. The next problem is more of a cultural one - our players just aren't fit enough. Poland and Germany have far better players than we do, that's a given. But they also press far better, run for far longer. There is absolutely no reason we couldn't be as fit as the top teams. I don't want to pick on Brown, but do you think you'd see Bastian Schweinsteiger or Kamil Glik slumped on the street with a takeaway pizza? Would you f**k. IMO we need to get a manager in who will at least make sure we're hard to beat. Let's be dour, defensive, but well-organised. Ireland made it to the last Euros, and arguably this one by simply being hard to beat. We're pish on the ball and pish off it - a bad combination! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddfg Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 To hear the manager using bad luck as an excuse when being interviewed after the game just about sums Scotland up, we're not good enough and no amount of lone bagpipers and Loch Lomond is going to cover up for the fact that as an international football team we are not very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Koop Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Suppose. Just annoyed. Football is our national sport and we are awful. No accountability in SFA It's been a long time since Scottish football was our national game. There are at least two generations brought up besotted by the football from around the world you can see at the flick of a switch. It isn't Scottish football and it isn't benefitting the national team. Not in the way we want or expect it to. We love football. It's our national game, but the Scottish, the British game that sustained the Scotland teams of the 1950s, 60s and 70s is long dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoRaj Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 If you'd said before the campaign Ireland would take 4 points from the world champions you'd have been laughed out the door. In that regard we've been unlucky, you can't legislate for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydun Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 We dont take enough risks with younger players or players performing well in Scotland, its always the same old faces! Im not suggesting we give anyone a game like Berti did, but change one or two out, bring in top performers like Shinnie and Greg Stewart and give youngsters like Gauld and Christie a game or we wont progress any time soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowdenConvert Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 We dont take enough risks with younger players or players performing well in Scotland, its always the same old faces! Im not suggesting we give anyone a game like Berti did, but change one or two out, bring in top performers like Shinnie and Greg Stewart and give youngsters like Gauld and Christie a game or we wont progress any time soon.What harm can it do? Picking the same old faces has worked well for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmc Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 We've been incredibly unlucky in this campaign. It would be very disingenous to suggest otherwise. But we'll make it to a tournament, and soon, and the self hating fans will look as stupid as those calling for Fletcher to be dropped. Aww come we havent bee n unlucky.....Georgia nearly got a equaliser at home roi hit bar at parkhead Poland had us under siege last 20 mins away......we have if anything surfed some good fortune.....arguably we could have been scrabbling with georgia for second bottom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Tourette Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 I reckon Wales can count themselves more unlucky than us, especially since we qualified for both 1978 and 1986 World Cups at their expense with extremely dodgy penalties given against them in our favour in both games which we scored and proved to be the winning goals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowdenConvert Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 I reckon Wales can count themselves more unlucky than us, especially since we qualified for both 1978 and 1986 World Cups at their expense with extremely dodgy penalties given against them in our favour in both games which we scored and proved to be the winning goalsYou might have a point but f**k wales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmc Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 I reckon Wales can count themselves more unlucky than us, especially since we qualified for both 1978 and 1986 World Cups at their expense with extremely dodgy penalties given against them in our favour in both games which we scored and proved to be the winning goals86 was an equalising goal n was cos ref denied us a stick on one earlier......plus dirty welsh gits got away with a foul at Hampden in assist to their goal.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameus Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 We weren't really all that unlucky in this campaign until tonight. On another day that free kick hits any of the 400 pairs of legs in the way, or clips the outside of the post, or Marshall gets something on it, or it's cleared. That was unlucky. What wasn't particularly unlucky were the other points in the campaign. On paper, we're a slightly better team than Ireland. But it looks like they'll be room for only one team that's greater than the sum of their parts, and that's Ireland sadly. They've ridden their luck on occasions possibly, or you could just argue that they're better at winning those kinds of games. We went at Germany in the opening game, and we gifted them a couple of goals thanks to dreadful defending. Ireland nicked a very late draw. We again went at them at Hampden, but ultimately lost. Ireland caught them on an off day it seems, but still had enough to nick a win. I could go on, but basically, we're not unlucky. Ireland have nicked results they really shouldn't have got, while taking the points when they really should have. We slipped up once in Georgia, and that's that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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