The Chlamydia Kid Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Alex Ferguson has said that he only ever had 4 WORLD CLASS players during his time at United: Cantona, Ronaldo, Giggs and Scholes…………unsurprisingly no mention of Darren Fletcher in this group He then added that he had “great” players who weren’t quite at the level of the previous 4: Rooney, Beckham, Keane, Schmichael, Tevez and Ferdinand……………unsurprisingly no mention of Darren Fletcher once again. Face facts Darren Fletcher has never been, never will, and never even approached any reasonable definition of “world class” and doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as any of the previous players. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34311859 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Give it a rest Fashanu ffs 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Lambert I would say was world class, certainly in his season at Dortmund. He pretty much marked Zidane out of the Champions League final. He done a very good job anywhere he played, but that is obviously the clear highlight. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Regards Cooper - It's borderline sacrilegious to say anything negative about him among the fans of the clubs he played for. Very good player on his day, but prone to inconsistency. Not sure he could be described as world class, probably held back by staying with what was a relatively poor Rangers team for most of his time there, with only 3 league titles in the 11 or 12 years he was with them. Had he moved out of his comfort zone and played on a bigger stage, he might have gone a lot further. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Regards Cooper - It's borderline sacrilegious to say anything negative about him among the fans of the clubs he played for. Very good player on his day, but prone to inconsistency. Not sure he could be described as world class, probably held back by staying with what was a relatively poor Rangers team for most of his time there, with only 3 league titles in the 11 or 12 years he was with them. Had he moved out of his comfort zone and played on a bigger stage, he might have gone a lot further. He'd have been a bench warmer at a higher level. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chlamydia Kid Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Schmeichel and Ferdinand were quite clearly World Class therefore the rest of his argument is irrelevant to the discussion. Using his argument then anybody that doesn't score or create goals can't be considered World Class. Ok mate, you clearly know the game better than Sir Alex.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chlamydia Kid Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Lambert I would say was world class, certainly in his season at Dortmund. He pretty much marked Zidane out of the Champions League final. He done a very good job anywhere he played, but that is obviously the clear highlight. Your avatar is exactly the same expression I made when I read your ridiculous post. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Your avatar is exactly the same expression I made when I read your ridiculous post. Probably because you have spent too long in the type of situation depicted in your avatar. Likely with paint stripper being poured down your neck as opposed to water or lucozade. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Skidmarks Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Homophobic bants. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Parr Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 (edited) Ferguson's comments suggest that only 'once in a generation' type players could ever truly be considered world class - parameters which I doubt most reasonable observers would apply. For me, Fletcher was world class. Edited September 22, 2015 by Consolidate 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chlamydia Kid Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Ferguson's comments suggest that only 'once in a generation' type players could ever truly be considered world class - parameters which I doubt most reasonable observers would apply. For me, Fletcher was world class. He also names a number of "great" players, who are below that "once in a generation" level You seriously believe Fletcher should be considered alongside Keane etc??? Sir Alex obviously doesn't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrestersKTID Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 He also names a number of "great" players, who are below that "once in a generation" level You seriously believe Fletcher should be considered alongside Keane etc??? Sir Alex obviously doesn't. The argument was never to put Fletcher alongside these players overall. Most people have argued that Fletcher was probably first player on the team sheet at Utd during 08-10 seasons. At that time he was among the top 5 in the world for his position. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieT1314 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 (edited) I'd reply to this but the ignorance speaks for itself. I would agree that I am ignorant of Davey Coopers qualities as a player, I am too young to really remember him as a world class player. I can vaguely remember him for Motherwell and Clydebank but i can only assume this was not him at the peak of his powers. Feel free to relieve my ignorance with examples of how he was a World Class player. Edited September 22, 2015 by JamieT1314 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chlamydia Kid Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 For his very specific and distinct position of which there was little completion. His over all position was a midfielder and he wasnt anywhere near the top 5 midfielders even at his peak. Therefore he was not world class -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKMAN Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Peter Schmeichel, almost universally regarded as one the greatest keepers of all time isn't world class!!! Take it Fergie's got a new book out? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Peter Schmeichel, almost universally regarded as one the greatest keepers of all time isn't world class!!! Take it Fergie's got a new book out? There is a 4 minute interview on the BBC website where he sets his definition out for putting those four ahead of the likes of Schmeichel. It's a perfectly reasonable rationale, and not a slight on players like him or Rooney. The labels are not Ferguson's choice. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 He also names a number of "great" players, who are below that "once in a generation" level You seriously believe Fletcher should be considered alongside Keane etc??? Sir Alex obviously doesn't. Alex has his opinion, others differ. In the last 15 years the players that stand out for me are Zidane, Figo, Ronaldo (1) Ronaldo (2), Pirlo and Messi. - that's super world class. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmc Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Steven fletcher passed to anya a year n bit ago......hes therefore world class n no one is allowed to doubt debate or argue this point he will lead us to the euros despite idiots wanting forwards who play regularly n score goals every week 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulloch Gorum Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 (edited) He was before my time, but I suppose Steve Archibald might be in with a shout. A league title with Aberdeen, two FA Cups and the Cup Winners' Cup with Spurs and La Liga and a European Cup runners-up medal with Barca - not a bad haul, really. Am I right in thinking Barca signed him to replace Maradona? If so, that speaks volumes for how he was rated at the time. Edited September 23, 2015 by Tulloch Gorum 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameus Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Steven fletcher passed to anya a year n bit ago......hes therefore world class n no one is allowed to doubt debate or argue this point he will lead us to the euros despite idiots wanting forwards who play regularly n score goals every week 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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