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The Chinese stockmarket is down 8% this morning, it's down about 30% over the last few months. While economic growth remains strong (depsite some observers doubts about official forecasts) even the threat of a slowdown has huge implications for WEstern economies. China is a massive consumer of commodities and any slowdown will have knock on effects to just about every country in the world.

How do P&Bers see a Chinese economic slowdown affecting Scotland, the UK and the rest of the world?

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The Chinese stockmarket is down 8% this morning, it's down about 30% over the last few months. While economic growth remains strong (depsite some observers doubts about official forecasts) even the threat of a slowdown has huge implications for WEstern economies. China is a massive consumer of commodities and any slowdown will have knock on effects to just about every country in the world.

How do P&Bers see a Chinese economic slowdown affecting Scotland, the UK and the rest of the world?

Do we know the RBS exposure?

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In China the average house price is 18 times more than the average annual salary, which is why there is all these ghost cities. Many Chinese have invested in them via these wealth management funds, which even a senior banker has admitted is fundamentally a ponzi scheme. If they're all these unoccupied houses and you know people can't afford them, then you don't have to guess what is going to happen down the line. The situation in China is inevitably going to lead to a U.S style great depression, and it will have a domino effect around the world.

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In China the average house price is 18 times more than the average annual salary, which is why there is all these ghost cities. Many Chinese have invested in them via these wealth management funds, which even a senior banker has admitted is fundamentally a ponzi scheme. If they're all these unoccupied houses and you know people can't afford them, then you don't have to guess what is going to happen down the line. The situation in China is inevitably going to lead to a U.S style great depression, and it will have a domino effect around the world.

Thanks for cheering us all up!

I think a more likely outcome will be for the US to sneeze, and the UK to catch a cold.

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We are seeing a lot of production that was moved down to China finding its way back to us .

It seems manufacturing for a European market isn't as cost effective as some companies thought.

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The big problem for Western economies is that China has been a major holder of government debt, especially in the US. China's current woes will mean that it cannot afford to buy more western debt. Another credit crunch, even bigger than 2008, is inevitable and America's economy could collapse very quickly.

Western governments may need to raise interest rates to attract other investors, especially private institutions. Higher interest rates would make debt returns more competitive with equities. The result will be that the stock market will drop considerably, 30 to 40% or more as has happened in China.

Governments that run large budget deficits could find it difficult to attract buyers for their Treasury bonds. They will have to slash spending like the Greeks to avoid going bust. If you think that austerity is bad now, it's nothing compared to what's coming.

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:lol::lol:

Former SPAD to Gordon Brown, Damien McBride here. Christ.

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Crash advice No.3: agree a rally point with your loved ones in case transport and communication gets cut off; somewhere you can all head to.
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Crash advice No.2: do you have enough bottled water, tinned goods & other essentials at home to live a month indoors? If not, get shopping.
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Advice on the looming crash, No.1: get hard cash in a safe place now; don't assume banks & cashpoints will be open, or bank cards will work.
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