Jan Vojáček Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 What a horrible, spineless tepid performance tonight from us. Ian Murray is on shaky ground already, make no mistake about it. That sort of display in backing off and trying to feed off of scraps may well yield results when you take charge of a part-time team in a full-time league. But it doesn't cut the mustard, I'm afraid! It didn't against Dumbarton, Annan, Morton or tonight and will have to change sharpish or we'll be paying up the guts of another two year contract before the year's out! Defeat is acceptable, even a poor performance is acceptable. The manner in which we completely and seemingly continuously succumb to teams, invite pressure, allow space and generally let them have as much of the ball as they want, isn't and won't be acceptable going forward. Is Danny Mullen available for Saturday? I certainly hope so. What a fucking disgusting challenge on Jordan Stewart, regardless of if he didn't give the ball back or not. Completely reprehensible to be honest. I didn't work with us either. We were utterly rank last season, backing off teams and letting them dominate last season. Under Murray and Ross, we were played at a far higher tempo. Murray and Spalding isn't a great combination. He needs a decent assistant, and he isn't one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdinburghLivi Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 I really hope he can get the kind of ban that Suarez got for nibbling someone's arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DugSomner Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Saw an ambulance heading towards the ground as I left. Hope it's not for young Stewart. Livinigston were at it throughout the whole game, and sadly the ref fell for it. For him to deny the stonewall penalty, and continue to let the time wasting go unchecked he's partly responsible for what ended up happening. Two Livvy players feign injury (again) and the goalie chucks the ball out to waste more time. Saints were absolutely right not to give it back, and Livvy should have been happy enough to have conned another couple of minutes out of the ref. But no, a piece of pure scum decides to carry out a horrific assault on a guy playing only his second game for the first team. I really hope he can get the kind of ban that Suarez got for nibbling someone's arm. Disappointed about our performance, and the result, but that at the end was just horrible. Spoke to a Livvy fan on the way out and he said Stewardpt got what he deserved for not giving the ball back. Classy man. Classy team. we were perfectly entitlad to keep the ball. No one was injured. It was cramp only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houston_bud Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 You may laugh, but that kind of challenge can end season, and possibly even careers. I'd also have been raging with him if I was a Livvy fan. You're winning, in stoppage time, and a lad - who's on a booking - gets himself sent off, and gives away a free kick putting the team under pressure. You can argue the rights and wrongs of not giving the ball back, there was no excuse for that challenge. A regular three match ban isn't enough for what he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby_F Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Totally agree. As for the penalty shout Bobby F and Gareth mentioned, it hit his arm, I shouted for it, but I wouldn't say 'stonewaller'. I'd have been raging had that gone against us. The ball, travelled 10 yards, it was on target, the guy handled it. Easy call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livi_Lad Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Astonished to see St Mirren fans talking about "horror tackles" and "banning" Mullen when you have Jim fucking Goodwin in your team. As big a thug as I've ever seen. You lost to by far the worst livi team of all time, let's start focussing on how bad you lot actually are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houston_bud Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Astonished to see St Mirren fans talking about "horror tackles" and "banning" Mullen when you have Jim fucking Goodwin in your team. As big a thug as I've ever seen. You lost to by far the worst livi team of all time, let's start focussing on how bad you lot actually are. I think everyone has accepted how bad we are, and accepted the better team won. Because Livingston deserved to win does that mean we can't comment on any other aspect of the game? Say what you like about Goodwin, I've never seen him commit a challenge like Mullan did. It says more about you that you are trying to deflect from the challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby_F Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 I really hope you weren't at the game to be laughing at anything to do with that assault. And yeah, I do think the kind of 'tackle' Mullen did deserves punishment at least as severe as biting someone. Truly appalling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andylivi1 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Well that was as niggily a game as I'm likely to see all season and the referee seemed intent on making it that way, as has been said yellow cards where being flashed round when only a word would have been suffice early in the game, he clearly had lost the plot and realised that by letting other fouls go later in the game (by both teams) Buchanan's goal was a thing of beauty as was the free kick to get Saints level. Was shocked at how poor St Mirren where tbh, expected much better after watching them against Rangers but they didn't seem to want to stop a cross all night, fully expect them to be much better on Saturday and us much poorer but you never know. Onto the red card, I don't blame St Mirren for not giving the ball back its a cup game and we've tried to run down the clock, if shoe was on the other foot I'd be expecting my team to keep the ball, I'd have liked to seen him taken off long before then as he was walking a tightrope all second half, I'm in no way defending Mullen but from our view it looked like he slipped and went into the lad but if he hasnt it's a horrible tackle and he should get a lengthy ban, oh and I certainly didn't applaud him off and didn't see many doing so either, I did see a few clapping the lad off that was on the stretcher, hope he is alright. Seemed a lot of niggle in the stands tonight too, it was like being back at Cowdenbeath again, never thought I'd sit in an atmosphere like that again, would expect a larger segregated area on Saturday perhaps ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowdenConvert Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 There were two bookings for each team in the first 20 minutes or so but none of them merited a card (only the second Dumbarton one was even a foul). The ref booked pretty much every foul early on and then bottled it and started ignoring clear fouls. Bit blinkered when you think Dumbarton are committing fouls against you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth_Glasgow Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Bit blinkered when you think Dumbarton are committing fouls against you. That originally said Annan as well. Fucking hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowdenConvert Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 That originally said Annan as well. Fucking hell.No wonder you lost playing against 33 men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby_F Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Well that was as niggily a game as I'm likely to see all season and the referee seemed intent on making it that way, as has been said yellow cards where being flashed round when only a word would have been suffice early in the game, he clearly had lost the plot and realised that by letting other fouls go later in the game (by both teams) Buchanan's goal was a thing of beauty as was the free kick to get Saints level. Was shocked at how poor St Mirren where tbh, expected much better after watching them against Rangers but they didn't seem to want to stop a cross all night, fully expect them to be much better on Saturday and us much poorer but you never know. Onto the red card, I don't blame St Mirren for not giving the ball back its a cup game and we've tried to run down the clock, if shoe was on the other foot I'd be expecting my team to keep the ball, I'd have liked to seen him taken off long before then as he was walking a tightrope all second half, I'm in no way defending Mullen but from our view it looked like he slipped and went into the lad but if he hasnt it's a horrible tackle and he should get a lengthy ban, oh and I certainly didn't applaud him off and didn't see many doing so either, I did see a few clapping the lad off that was on the stretcher, hope he is alright. Seemed a lot of niggle in the stands tonight too, it was like being back at Cowdenbeath again, never thought I'd sit in an atmosphere like that again, would expect a larger segregated area on Saturday perhaps ? You think he slipped???????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houston_bud Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Stewart's leg isn't broken thankfully, doesn't seem as serious as first thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andylivi1 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 You think he slipped???????? I said it looked like he slipped from where we are in the ground, I'm not saying it was or wasn't, as I've said if he hasn't then it's a horrid tackle and the book should be thrown as him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livithegreat Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 I am sure the St Mirren fans would have had something to say if Livi never gave the ball back when Langfield kicked it out - bad sportsmanship especially fron Langfield as an experienced pro & he should be ashamed. If Danny made a rash challenge then he fully deserved his red & I genuinely hope the young boy is OK. It was overall a scrappy game and both sets of players were at it at points during the game, but the ref set his stall out early and if St Mirren fans take off there tinted glasses (just for a second) Goodwin should have walked before he was subbed. Ben Gordon probably should have walked too (long before the Match lien incident.) The St Mirren fans were very excited tonight and need to take some chill pills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cptn Hooch Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 How many minutes extra time were played? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingscot Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 We're going to go down successive years if Murray didn't get it together. 4 Championship teams played 0 wins. Looks out of his depth. At the moment wish we'd gone for someone else as this is pish. f**k knows how he kept Dumbarton up that year, at the moment he hasn't a clue on selection and tactics. Be lucky to survive past October. Big changes needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 How many minutes extra time were played?none. Extra time is only ever played in cup ties and even then only when teams are level after 90 minutes on the night or on aggregate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayia Napa Daz Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Deky Gallagher's baseball bat LSC. Same again Saturday, please. Getting some points on the board would be ideal thank you very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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