underdogunderdog underdog Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 I've seen threads about goalies and centre backs but we really lack an international class striker who is capable of a 1 in 2 average. Fletcher isn't good enough. Naismith works hard when he plays there but it isn't his best position. Rhodes and McCormack are good Championship strikers at best. We've lacked a top striker for years and that's one of main reasons that we haven't qualified for a tournament for so long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airdrie Onions Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Simon Murray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Fletcher is good enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lubo_blaha Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Who needs strikers when you have Shaun Maloney? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Fletcher is pish but Naisy up front supported by Snodgrass, Maloney and Anya is good for 2 or 3 goals a game Fletcher basically kills our creativity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdogunderdog underdog Posted June 20, 2015 Author Share Posted June 20, 2015 Fletcher is good enough He is ok against the minnows like Gibraltar but when it comes to playing the top teams, he isn't good enough. I'd like to see Griffiths get a chance to see what he can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Thought Griffiths did well against Croatia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoRaj Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Fletcher is pish but Naisy up front supported by Snodgrass, Maloney and Anya is good for 2 or 3 goals a game This is nonsense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoRaj Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 If you watch the highlights of our last half a dozen games where fletcher has played, he has created or been involved in a high percentage of the chances. Look at the passes to Anya v Germany and Poland for example. 2 inch perfect passes that led to immediate goals against the 2 best teams in the group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audaces Fortuna Juvat Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 If you watch the highlights of our last half a dozen games where fletcher has played, he has created or been involved in a high percentage of the chances. Look at the passes to Anya v Germany and Poland for example. 2 inch perfect passes that led to immediate goals against the 2 best teams in the group Anyone can pass a ball two inches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 He is ok against the minnows like Gibraltar but when it comes to playing the top teams, he isn't good enough. I'd like to see Griffiths get a chance to see what he can do. But he is. It was his play that got us goals in both Poland and Germany. No other striker in our team could do what he did for both they goals. Fletcher IS good enough for Scotland. He's probably one of our better players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 I would love a player like Lewandowski obviously but can't see that happening anytime soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Fletcher was good at Ibrox, but far too wasteful with chances of his own. I do think we could do with better, but until then, I suppose he'll do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Fletcher isn't a striker, in my opinion. I like him as a player but he doesn't score nearly enough goals. That said, he's still a huge part in the way we play but I wouldn't know how to fit him in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Steven Fletcher is clearly good enough. Only complete fucking morons think otherwise. He's also obviously a much better player than Leigh Griffiths is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordopolis Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Steven Fletcher is clearly good enough. Only complete fucking morons think otherwise. He's also obviously a much better player than Leigh Griffiths is. Steven Fletcher is 100% good enough to be in every Scotland squad. But those who think he has to start every game as our number 9 in the 4-2-3-1 setup are kidding themselves. It's not as if he's helping Anya, Maloney and Naismith to score an avalanche of goals for us - we've been scraping most of our good results with the aid of own goals and scrambled efforts: for every goal like Anya's vs Germany, there's 5 or 6 going in off a defender's arse or the like. I'd be much happier if we could develop our way of playing to win games with a little bit more than a baw-hair's width to spare. As I mentioned before, the 4-4-1-1 with Naismith and Snodgrass vs Croatia at Hampden impressed and excited me far more than the 4-2-3-1 which often flatters to deceive. Perhaps Fletcher might flourish/improve goalscoring-wise in such a setup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdogunderdog underdog Posted June 20, 2015 Author Share Posted June 20, 2015 But he is. It was his play that got us goals in both Poland and Germany. No other striker in our team could do what he did for both they goals. Fletcher IS good enough for Scotland. He's probably one of our better players. He isn't a top class striker. His link up play is good but it is the job of a striker to score goals and he doesn't do that often enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 He isn't a top class striker. His link up play is good but it is the job of a striker to score goals and he doesn't do that often enough. He gets very few chances for Scotland. He is by far our best striker, that's just the way it is, we have nobody better. If there was somebody better I'd be all for them getting a game. But there's no. Not a better finisher, target man or someone that can hold it up as well as he can that is Scottish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 He isn't a top class striker. His link up play is good but it is the job of a striker to score goals and he doesn't do that often enough. Correct. He isn't a top class striker, but he's very clearly the closest thing we have to one. Also, does it really matter who scores the goals? As long as they get scored, who cares? The system we use seems to be very good at creating chances for the 3 behind the striker, hence why they all have a couple of goals in this campaign. Fletcher can be a vital part in creating those chances, and as long as he keeps doing the effectively then I don't mind if he himself isn't getting as many goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoRaj Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 Correct. He isn't a top class striker, but he's very clearly the closest thing we have to one. Also, does it really matter who scores the goals? As long as they get scored, who cares? The system we use seems to be very good at creating chances for the 3 behind the striker, hence why they all have a couple of goals in this campaign. Fletcher can be a vital part in creating those chances, and as long as he keeps doing the effectively then I don't mind if he himself isn't getting as many goals. Exactly this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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