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Like it or not the term is banned and he has broken the law.

Throw the book at him.

Thankfully good Celtic fans seem keen to see gowser, Paton et al punished, I assume they will hold the same stance and Scottish footballs biggest club will do the right thing.

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Banned by who?

What law? evidence please

Laws of the game in Scotland deem that an offensive and therefore banned term. A laws a law. That's why he's correctly been huckled.

Celtic and its employees disgracing this proud nation yet again.

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If those deflector shields were any stronger, Rico would be running the Death Star.

I just find it ridiculous the H word has somehow over the last few years went from a term to describing Rangers/Sevco to now being some sort of anti protestant slur.

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