Kennie Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 In the past, the region have not awarded points (or a 3-0 win for that matter) to any club who wins an appeal (only usually happens at senior level). They will deduct points from the club who loses the appeal. In saying that, I've only known it to happen to a club who has been deducted points after winning a game, not drawing one. Will be interesting to see (if any appeal favours Lugar) whether 1 or 3 points are deducted. West Region rule book - On a protest being sustained in a league match, the club protested against will have any points won, goals for and against deducted from their score, together with any other penalty as the Committee may determine. In addition the successfully protesting Club will be awarded 3 points in the event of a defeat, or 2 points in the event of a draw together with a goal difference of 3 goals for and 0 against. Following an objection from a West Region Club concerning the above post, resulting in a reprimand from the West Region committee, I have decided that I will no longer be able to take part in any discussions or pass on any relevant information in the future through the medium of Pie & Bovril. It was my believe that P&B was a terrific way of keeping the fans informed of anything that was happening within the Juniors and I always tried to keep my post as factual as possible. I apologise if I've ever caused any offence to any member of this forum. Kennie Young Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fan of the juniors Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Free speech not allowed Kennie Not agreed with all your postings but would defend your right to post what you want Not allowed an opinion if you are in any way connected to a club be it official or unofficial Twitter poster These folk would put you off giving your time to your club LADESIDE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldy Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Fk them kennie , bunch of fking dinosaurs, nothing wrong with above post , the committee should grow a set and get rid of Mr fixtures man or at least tell him to get his act together, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
posterboy Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Always maintained insider info should not be passed on. That's the way it is my friend. Nothing to stop you posting in another guise if you need a fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steish Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Can only imagine who the west region club Is. Fukcin farce if you ask me. Don't let a couple of arsoles dictate what you do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
posterboy Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 In saying that this is unofficial so reprimand can only be from your own club. If the west region have been in touch they should hang their heads in shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fan of the juniors Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 In saying that this is unofficial so reprimand can only be from your own club. If the west region have been in touch they should hang their heads in shame. Can reassure you through personal experience that this does happen . Not just the West region either LADESIDE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldy Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Certain people holding high level positions in west region and sjfa are known to visit this and other sites , then try to cause bother for posters , SAD but true , you would think they had better things to do like ,,,, organize fixtures,,, find sponsors, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Got to agree with the posters above. No always agreed with everything you said, but then thats what this sites all about. Wouldn't be much of a forum if everybody agreed on everything and always got on. Get yourself back on under a new username where top brass have nae idea who it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Jock Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 The West management committee in general must take a long hard look at themselves. On a disciplinary note they don't allow any witness statements when players and officials are brought up in front of the committee.. So that means they take the referee's word on matters and I witnessed a manager sent off last year for foul and abusive language to the referee and the manager protested his innocence as he had picked the wrong guy but was still sent off... Luckily the observer was around the dug out area and informed the referee after cautioning the manager at time up to retract the caution!!!!! This would have cost the manager £50 but if the observer wasn't there to correct him then the fine would have to be paid.... Dinosaurs..... All of them!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theesel1994 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 When did the rules change or has this always been a West region rule? I know before Largs drew with Craigmark, an ineligible player scoring their equaliser. Craigmark had one point deducted. Largs had no points awarded. This must been pre-merger if this has always been a rule for the West Region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertha_BJFC Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Following an objection from a West Region Club concerning the above post, resulting in a reprimand from the West Region committee, I have decided that I will no longer be able to take part in any discussions or pass on any relevant information in the future through the medium of Pie & Bovril. It was my believe that P&B was a terrific way of keeping the fans informed of anything that was happening within the Juniors and I always tried to keep my post as factual as possible. I apologise if I've ever caused any offence to any member of this forum. Kennie Young Well said but it took a while for you to realise the way they work. Everything on here is monitored via their iron fist and they read everything and report everything as I know through my own posts . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 perish the thought that any old punter would be able to see the rule book- that way lies madness... or fairness, which is even worse.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theesel1994 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 perish the thought that any old punter would be able to see the rule book- that way lies madness... or fairness, which is even worse.... Would that be the same rulebook that is posted on their website that any old punter can read? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddfg Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 What's wrong with posting the rules? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fan of the juniors Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/sjfa/football_document_libraries.cfm?page=3386 Nothing at all LADESIDE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Jock Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 The West management committee in general must take a long hard look at themselves. On a disciplinary note they don't allow any witness statements when players and officials are brought up in front of the committee.. So that means they take the referee's word on matters and I witnessed a manager sent off last year for foul and abusive language to the referee and the manager protested his innocence as he had picked the wrong guy but was still sent off... Luckily the observer was around the dug out area and informed the referee after cautioning the manager at time up to retract the caution!!!!! This would have cost the manager £50 but if the observer wasn't there to correct him then the fine would have to be paid.... Dinosaurs..... All of them!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Bad enough the committee seeing fit to reprimand Kennie, but the club who made the complaint want to have a good look at themselves. West region official quoting the rule book which is freely available to view on the website? There was no sarcastic tone or anything in his post so what was there to object about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Jock Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Kangaroo courts!!!!! How many are on this committee??? Difficult to understand why they would support the referees when you see them as most of them are out of their depth and not capable of controlling games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clash city rocker Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Kennie has been a great servant to his club and to the Ayrshire/West region, what he posted was from the rule book freely available from anybody to peruse... What the feck is wrong with that in a Democratic society ? Openness, transparency is what we want, perhaps Kennie will now realise that our association is living in the dark ages. Never agreed with everything he said but he was willing to come on here and tell us the way things work and give us an insight into how summer fitba, fixtures etc are viewed by the beaks. P&B will be the poorer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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