Baxter Parp Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Oh my, this is delicious. http://blogs.channel4.com/gary-gibbon-on-politics/scottish-labour-despair/29709 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Labour MP, former minister: “We walked straight into the trap … I don’t see how we win a second referendum.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecto Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Oh my, this is delicious. http://blogs.channel4.com/gary-gibbon-on-politics/scottish-labour-despair/29709 Labour MP, former minister: “We walked straight into the trap … I don’t see how we win a second referendum.” This garbage must be like political porn to you pair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Was gonna post this. Labour is a cesspit and has been for years. Since when did it become the raison d'etre of a party supposedly committed to social justice to prop up a corrupt, discredited and bankrupt union? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SodjesSixteenIncher Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 This garbage must be like political porn to you pair It is for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 This garbage must be like political porn to you pair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I'm glad I came across this. Labour = lazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergie's no1 fan Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broomhill Ultra Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Labour MP, former minister: “We walked straight into the trap … I don’t see how we win a second referendum.” No that's wrong cos Reynard said, where is the illiterate imbecile by the way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alert Mongoose Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LongTimeLurker Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Oh my, this is delicious. http://blogs.channel4.com/gary-gibbon-on-politics/scottish-labour-despair/29709 This isn't what most No voters thought they were voting for. The moment Cameron started talking about English votes for English laws, the Union was starting to unravel, because it effectively turns Westminster into the English parliament most of the time and that undermines the dual Scottish-British identity that many/most Scots still have in a big way. If this gets implemented Tam Dayell will probably have been proven right about devolution being a motorway to independence with no exits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergie's no1 fan Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 This isn't what most No voters thought they were voting for. Only a total bread bin licker would realise thats not what they were voting for. Some were voting NO regardless, which is fair enough because there were many like myself who were voting YES regardless. I'd hate to think people voted NO because of the vow but there are a few bread bin lickers in this country, oops I mean region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Only a total bread bin licker would realise thats not what they were voting for. Some were voting NO regardless, which is fair enough because there were many like myself who were voting YES regardless. I'd hate to think people voted NO because of the vow but there are a few bread bin lickers in this country, oops I mean region. Wasn't referring to "the Vow". That swung maybe 5% of the vote at a push. I was referring to the core 40-45% who were going to vote No no matter what. Until the very last minute when the waters were muddied a bit with vague promises of additional powers when Westminster politicians went into panic mode, they thought they were getting a slightly modified version of the status quo rather than a sweeping Home Rule package. Once you devolve income tax pretty much in its entirety, people who previously preferred the Union as is will start to look at whether going all the way is the better way to go in pragmatic terms. I don't believe for a minute that the Tories and Lib Dems are letting Labour off the hook on the English votes for English law things. A decision made by one sitting parliament can not bind future ones in perpetuity on issues like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 They are trumpeting on twitter about how they have delivered the vow They are fucking rotten to the core,i hope they get routed next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampden Diehard Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 They are trumpeting on twitter about how they have delivered the vow They are fucking rotten to the core,i hope they get routed next year Disappointed that you didn't say gutted or filleted rather than routed given your whereabouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Disappointed that you didn't say gutted or filleted rather than routed given your whereabouts.What fife? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 And i dont mean in a Scotland way i mean uk wide'f**k em lets rout/gut the red tory b*****ds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Wasn't referring to "the Vow". That swung maybe 5% of the vote at a push. I was referring to the core 40-45% who were going to vote No no matter what. Until the very last minute when the waters were muddied a bit with vague promises of additional powers when Westminster politicians went into panic mode, they thought they were getting a slightly modified version of the status quo rather than a sweeping Home Rule package. Once you devolve income tax pretty much in its entirety, people who previously preferred the Union as is will start to look at whether going all the way is the better way to go in pragmatic terms. I don't believe for a minute that the Tories and Lib Dems are letting Labour off the hook on the English votes for English law things. A decision made by one sitting parliament can not bind future ones in perpetuity on issues like that. I know a few No voters who were undecided for a while but then the fear of making a balls up given our own powers was what swung them. Nice to know that some people have so little respect for their own 'countrymen', eh. Oh well, turns out they were getting it anyway and had gone so far down the No route that they didn't even consider backtracking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 No wonder... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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