Geronimo Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Given we're on the lead up to that time of year, I was wondering what the general consensus of P&B'ers is with regards to how you observe Armistice Day. Quite a controversial issue and I suppose it is considered by some not be a political issue, but this is the only forum in which I felt this issue belonged. Feel free to add your own methods of remembrance below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsimButtHitsASix Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 On the 18th of October I was on the tube and a guy got on with a poppy. It was probably coloured glass but was meant to look like it was a metal poppy encrusted in jewels and he was wearing it nearly a full month before 11th November. It's been getting ridiculous but this was the tip of the iceberg for me. If you want to wear a poppy: fine. If you don't: fine. But it's less and less to do with remembrance and more to do with self-congratulations. The whole day can go f**k itself as far as I'm concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 I'll wear a poppy when I remember to. Thats about it. 2018 will be "the biggie" probably and after that I've decided that's plenty and won't bother anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 I wear a poppy on the 11th (and the Sunday) and observe a moment of reflection for the two world wars. I totally disagree with Remembrance Day/Armistice Day becoming the equivalent of Veterans Day - the hijacking of it into a commercial event and a "celebration" of everyone who has ever served in the British armed forces doesn't sit right with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geronimo Posted October 30, 2014 Author Share Posted October 30, 2014 I wear a poppy on the 11th (and the Sunday) and observe a moment of reflection for the two world wars. I totally disagree with Remembrance Day/Armistice Day becoming the equivalent of Veterans Day - the hijacking of it into a commercial event and a "celebration" of everyone who has ever served in the British armed forces doesn't sit right with me. I agree 100%. The maiming and slaughter of millions of people should never be an act which is celebrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collins Out! Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 A masonic ritual. f**k them. The elite sent millions to their deaths for nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingrodent Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Given we're on the lead up to that time of year, I was wondering what the general consensus of P&B'ers is with regards to how you observe Armistice Day. Quite a controversial issue and I suppose it is considered by some not be a political issue, but this is the only forum in which I felt this issue belonged. Feel free to add your own methods of remembrance below. The most appropriate commemoration for WWI would be to shoot a few hundred young men for no sane reason, and then angrily tick off everyone who complains about it for sullying the memory of the dead. After all, we have a Cenotaph in Whitehall pretty explicitly because e.g. dumping the bones of tens of thousands of dead soldiers into a big pile in the middle of a London street would be unsightly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 A masonic ritual. f**k them. The elite sent millions to their deaths for nothing. Think thats who is being remembered here you utter berk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Mints Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 I'll wear a poppy when I remember to. Thats about it. 2018 will be "the biggie" probably and after that I've decided that's plenty and won't bother anymore. Dementias a awful thing. Out of interest did you serve in ww2 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Think thats who is being remembered here you utter berk. We should still take cognisance as to who actually sent them to their deaths and why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 My grandfather 'fought' in France in The Great War. He was on service for 2 years and then got shot through the hand. When I asked him about it he'd usually quote Burns' "Man's inhumanity to man makes countless thousands mourn" He loved Airdrie, Rangers and Scotland and after he died my maw was sorting out his stuff and found a page of The Herald from 1928 about The Wembley Wizards that he'd kept. So Armistice Day is quite personal for me. I remember my grandfather and the hard life that he had. I also detest that it has, in some quarters, become triumphalistic. Wasn't it meant to be the war that ended all wars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geronimo Posted October 30, 2014 Author Share Posted October 30, 2014 Think thats who is being remembered here you utter berk. We're meant to remember their sacrifice. An extension of that would be questioning what exactly they died for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 We're meant to remember their sacrifice. An extension of that would be questioning what exactly they died for. Yes, but theres another 364 days for that. This particular one is to remember that they snuffed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 The most appropriate commemoration for WWI would be to shoot a few hundred young men for no sane reason, and then angrily tick off everyone who complains about it for sullying the memory of the dead. . I hate to say this, but I don't disagree with you, RatBoy. WW1 was utterly brutal and pointless. I know that the likes of The Ulster Division were glorious at The Somme but they should not have been there in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Boy I went to school with has changed his FB profile picture to this: Sombre and dignified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Dementias a awful thing. Out of interest did you serve in ww2 ? I can't remember Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingrodent Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 I hate to say this, but I don't disagree with you, RatBoy. WW1 was utterly brutal and pointless. I know that the likes of The Ulster Division were glorious at The Somme but they should not have been there in the first place. Nobody should've. The Kaiser and his mates can take most of the blame for that one, but there's plenty left to go round. I understand why people prefer sombre, reflective memorials to all our wars, but I'm firmly of the opinion that an excess of sombre reflection and a lack of boiling anger at world leaders and their henchmen, including our own, is one of the many reasons why we've had so many of the fvcking things in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 I can't remember Did. On the German side. Selective amnesia was quite popular with that lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audaces Fortuna Juvat Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 I hate to say this, but I don't disagree with you, RatBoy. WW1 was utterly brutal and pointless. I know that the likes of The Ulster Division were glorious at The Somme but they should not have been there in the first place. That is my personal connection. My grandfather refused to talk about it until his dying day, but his flagrant disregard for all politicians spoke volumes. I will always remember, but I will never glorify. I will continue to question, especially after my recent trip to Arnhem, a battle that provided irrefutable proof of the pointlessness of so much of war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Usually wear a poppy if i remember too. My grandparents were both born in 1939 and 1940, so just remember a little bit of it. Their fathers were both classed too old for active service but were involved in D-Day and Africa. Can't quite remember but will be looking into it. I have my dads grandfathers medals in the attic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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