H_B Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 The referendum has been lost. We move on. Scotland in 10 years time continues to prosper within the UK... the Scottish Parliament gains new powers and responsibilities. Unemployment stays low. We remain in the EU. Surveys show most people are content. Support for independence in polls drops to 30%. There is no demand for another referendum. Are you happy the nation is doing well? Or raging that you're not going to get what you want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo99 Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 just be peaceful with each other Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YassinMoutaouakil Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 I'd probably still be skeptical for the future but aye, I would probably stop pushing for another referendum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Rider Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 The referendum has been lost. We move on. Scotland in 10 years time continues to dwindle within the UK... the Scottish Parliaments new powers and responsibilities are insufficient to effect proper governance. Unemployment begins to climb. We are out the EU. Surveys show most people are upset. Support for independence in polls climbs to 70%. There is demand for another referendum. Are you happy the Scottish nation is hamstrung? Or raging that you're not going to get what you want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 .......... continues to prosper within the UK............... http://www.trusselltrust.org/stats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booker-T Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 The referendum has been lost. We move on. Scotland in 10 years time continues to prosper within the UK... the Scottish Parliament gains new powers and responsibilities. Unemployment stays low. We remain in the EU. Surveys show most people are content. Support for independence in polls drops to 30%. There is no demand for another referendum. Are you happy the nation is doing well? Or raging that you're not going to get what you want? I don't know, do we still have nuke weapons in our waters and are we still getting involved in expensive wars (both in lives and money lost)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted September 21, 2014 Author Share Posted September 21, 2014 The referendum has been lost. We move on. Scotland in 10 years time continues to dwindle within the UK... the Scottish Parliaments new powers and responsibilities are insufficient to effect proper governance. Unemployment begins to climb. We are out the EU. Surveys show most people are upset. Support for independence in polls climbs to 70%. There is demand for another referendum. Are you happy the Scottish nation is hamstrung? Or raging that you're not going to get what you want? Outlining your dream scenario there arent you? admit it.. be honest. You'd rather that was the case than my scenario wouldn't you? You don't want Scots to be happy in the UK . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 The referendum has been lost. We move on. Scotland in 10 years time continues to prosper within the UK... the Scottish Parliament gains new powers and responsibilities. Unemployment stays low. We remain in the EU. Surveys show most people are content. Support for independence in polls drops to 30%. There is no demand for another referendum. Are you happy the nation is doing well? Or raging that you're not going to get what you want? A question for you. 10 years time and we're being shat on left right and centre, our NHS is privatised, we are used as the guinea pig for any new power they want to try out first, poverty increases, disharmony increases, unemployment rises. Will you still say we're BetterTogether? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
18May1991 Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 The referendum has been lost. We move on. Scotland in 10 years time continues to dwindle within the UK... the Scottish Parliaments new powers and responsibilities are insufficient to effect proper governance. Unemployment begins to climb. We are out the EU. Surveys show most people are upset. Support for independence in polls climbs to 70%. There is demand for another referendum. Are you happy the Scottish nation is hamstrung? Or raging that you're not going to get what you want? A question for you. 10 years time and we're being shat on left right and centre, our NHS is privatised, we are used as the guinea pig for any new power they want to try out first, poverty increases, disharmony increases, unemployment rises. Will you still say we're BetterTogether? Why not answer the straightforward question put to you? Fair play to Yassin and IAYL for doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Bully Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 If everything is great, then I will be happy. If it's not, then I won't be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Why not answer the straightforward question put to you? Fair play to Yassin and IAYL for doing so. Why not answer my question? Fair's fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambomo Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 The referendum has been lost. We move on. Scotland in 10 years time continues to prosper within the UK... the Scottish Parliament gains new powers and responsibilities. Unemployment stays low. We remain in the EU. Surveys show most people are content. Support for independence in polls drops to 30%. There is no demand for another referendum. Are you happy the nation is doing well? Or raging that you're not going to get what you want? The main thing I wanted from independence was the ability to govern our own affairs i.e spend our own income as we want to. If the UK political system evolved, say to a more federal system, and we were able to do that then I'd be very happy not to have another referendum. I don't see either of those things happening though. Our main worry now has to be TTIP and whether Cameron will whitelist the NHS which it doesn't look like he wants to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addie Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Why is H_B such a cock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banterous Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 What I don't get is why the Yes voters were content with the uncertainty and inevitable mayhem with negative stock prices and currency devaluation afte r"18 months" of negotiation? Now some of them are hoping the economy fails. i know they're ALL hopeless optimists. Why the masochism for some of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted September 21, 2014 Author Share Posted September 21, 2014 If everything is great, then I will be happy. If it's not, then I won't be. There is nowhere that everything is great. Setting unrealistic bars isn't helpful. What were talking about is the majority of people being happy. If independence becomes less likely in 10 years time because most people are happy.. are 'the 45' going to be content or raging? Its not about conceptual politics . Its about average people doing well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartsOfficialMoaner Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 They want everything to go wrong so they can say 'I told you so.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyerTon Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 I don't know, do we still have nuke weapons in our waters and are we still getting involved in expensive wars (both in lives and money lost)? Exactly. On the video below, lorries transporting destructive power almost beyond imagination. And you know what? They don't want them in England. The Yanks moved out in March 1992 just a few miles away from Coulport/Faslane, but the Royal Navy still has them very close to Scotland's biggest city. Royal Navy flag: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QPSAFalkirkFirm Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Its about average people doing well. Still don't get it, do you. YES was all about the prospect of people being the very best they can be, at whatever level that is personally, and not settling for just getting along. People who think we are a country because we have our own football team need to get plugged in. The big decisions are being made in London - a few more glass beads and endless patronising platitudes is a very poor consolation compared to what was on offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QPSAFalkirkFirm Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 They want everything to go wrong so they can say 'I told you so.' If that's the height of your contribution to this debate, please go back to your cave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 The referendum has been lost. We move on. Scotland in 10 years time continues to prosper within the UK... the Scottish Parliament gains new powers and responsibilities. Unemployment stays low. We remain in the EU. Surveys show most people are content. Support for independence in polls drops to 30%. There is no demand for another referendum. Are you happy the nation is doing well? Or raging that you're not going to get what you want? In that scenario, I'm happy the nation (Scotland) is doing well.However, I would still be pushing for at least full federal powers. So Devo Max - powers over everything except defence and foreign affairs. To be honest, I'd probably be happy with that, given where we were before the introduction of Holyrood. If there was another referendum I'd still vote Yes, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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